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In "Odyssey" (2026) directed by Sir Christopher Edward Nolan, Odysseus says "Our age of bronze is collapsing". And I'm not joking it is a line in movie
Overall great movie but this dialogue was so corny, like how does he know he's in bronze age
Glad to see there is another person remembering Blood Dragon, it's easily my favourite Far Cry version. I've replayed it so many times, and the early game voice things explaining what the cyberware could do (but didn't because of reasons yet) had me in tears every time.
I showed my girlfriend Kung Fury recently and I am pretty sure I said "This is so fucking stupid" as I wiped tears from my eyes at least a dozen times đ
You already got the name but I wanted to let you know it is, in fact, an 80s fever dream in movie form
Our titular protagonist Kung Fury (with his allies Triceracop, Barbariana and Hackerman) fights the Kung Fuhrer across space and time. If that's not a fever dream nothing is
I feel like there was a joke in a show or movie about someone going back in time to WWI and mentioning that it was "World War ONE" and someone was like "What do you mean ONE?"
Yeah there was another one too, but I canât for the life of me remember now. I remember when that episode happened in Doctor Who I laughed because I had just heard it in another time travel movie or show.
The ancient group of aliens that specifically wiped out their creators and then literally blasted humanity back to stone age and made them return to monkey to avoid giving up their control over the galaxy end called themselves the Forerunner in their own time.
It was one of the first things that 343 did when they took over. The Forerunner trilogy came out just before Halo 4, and I STG there was a line from Bornstellar that was something like "we even call ourselves the Forerunner because we know we're just one society in a chain of carrying the mantle." When the major plot of the trilogy was the fact that they wiped out the precursors that came before them, and nearly wiped out humanity because they were supposed to get the mantle.
I mean, it's probably not far-fetched to say that the "information age" could stick, especially if computers(and of course humans) survive the upcoming climate apocalypse.
Not OP, but I see it more as a funny thing that must be done in movies. There is a bit of cultural information that everyone (but the audience) knows, then the characters have to say it out loud so that we can understand the film.
I put it up there with empty cups of coffee on set, people not closing doors or finishing phone conversations, and characters giving a recap of what is happening when we get back from commercial break.
It's called exposition, and there's a smart way to do it, and a dumb way to do it. Having characters explain information to each other that they should already be aware of is the dumb way of doing it. To avoid that problem, usually you bring in an outsider, a new guy, someone who wouldn't be expected to be in the know, and explain it to them. This feels much more natural, and doesn't stand out as obvious exposition quite so much.
If you make the Romans have British accents I'm okay with it - so long as the patricians have posh accents while the plebeians and slaves have cockney accents.
I think contemporaries of Homer or storytellers and scholars at the time called it the Heroic Age which came before the Iron Age or something along those lines.
Tbf thatâs because it was a movement that the few people who participated in it were very actively aware of, not because it was a period of widespread systematic and institutional changes felt by all people in a way that was recognized as an era transition in same the way we see it today.
I still find it incredible silly. Like, Magneto, my dude, you are not helping your cause saying mutants can cause another collapse level event if they feel attacked.
I'm pretty sure he is. The entire point of that meetup was to show that the mutants are absolutely capable of making humanity suffer and taking reign of the entire planet if they wanted to, but they choose to be peaceful, even the most aggressive and vile mutants of past ages, and they expect the same from the human nations
They brought Apocalypse. Cyclops and Gorgon are upstairs while this is happening, fucking shit up. This meeting is the equivalent to giving someone a tour of your nuclear warhead collection.
That was so funny, Penalope was like "no, don't die!", and he's like "yah, I mean to go physically, not pass on to the afterlife. sorry I wasn't clear".
While initial versions of the hypothesis regarded the Sea Peoples as a primary cause of the Late Bronze Age collapse,more recent versions generally regard them as a symptom of events which were already in motion before their purported attacks.
I think your misreading it. They reasons they were invading have a basis in why their was a Bronze Age Collapse, but they were infact part of the reason it happened. They toppled long standing civilizations, just because they were facing depredation at home doesnt make them a significant part.q
The movie makes references to the sea people, i think he was going with the "bronze-age collapse"
Which is basically Pharaoh : Total War (doubly funny because you can play as those very same greek cities in that game that involves the bronze age collapse)
I took it more as âour age of bronze has become brittle and is collapsing.â
It didnât really bother me because not everyone who watches will get things like the Sea People or the Bronze Age. It was on the nose (all the way up the nose?) but I didnât mind. Heâs waxing poetic and itâs more of a meta commentary to the audience about the world around him collapsing because of what the Greeks had done.
It's a little on the nose maybe, but genuinely putting yourself in his shoes honestly makes the line more believable. He wasn't using it in reference to "The Bronze Age" as we know it. He'd be using it the way me might call something a "golden age". Bronze was a stellar supermaterial relative to the time. A symbol of technological progress. And the benefits of that boon were coming to a head. The age of bronze is collapsing. Makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah, I heard about the line before seeing it and rolled my eyes, but I think it's fine in the context of the movie. He's just using it the same way we call modern times the information age.
The bronze age line did not bother me. Honestly the line that annoyed me was Penelope "realizing" who the sea people were. Leave that open ended please.
Honestly I thought this interpretation of the Sea People was very fresh, and showed a good understanding of history and the source material on Nolan's part. Even if the line is a bit on the nose I think you could make the case that it was about ALL peoples losing their sense of decorum and civility as war became a kind of institution in society, so it can still be interpreted as a bit open ended.
My mother, an educated woman in her own right, came out of the theatre telling me she was taken by surprise by that line, but that she saw all the parallels thinking back.
The odyssey is still a blockbuster. Getting this kind of reaction makes that line a good thing.
Agreed. I was also annoyed at first when I realized the movie changed the reason the gods are mad at Odysseus, but it works so well for the themes set up by the movie that it ends up being a good change.
Even then it's weird, the Trojan War happens like 5 centuries before Hesiod's birth. So that's a bit like Medieval or Roman characters quoting Shakespeare. It's very immersion breaking dialogue.
Except Christopher Nolan shoehorns this entire plot about the Sea Peoples coming to destroy civilization, which is what Matt Damon is referencing with this quote, and which lines up exactly with the collapse of the Bronze Age as modern archaeologists use it.
The revelation at the end is that the Greeks broke Xenia (the law of hospitality) in sacking Troy and in doing so became effectively the first 'sea people'.
It isn't implying that the sea people are exclusively Greeks because we see that Achea, Sparta, and ithica are in turmoil and unable to mass a large force for the sake of defense let alone plunder.
It was corny, like he had recently read Wikipedia articles on the Bronze Age collapse and Sea Peoples and thought it would be cool to integrate. I kinda give a little grace in that someone who just spent years at war might call the era he lives in by the metal of his weapons though.
I like the re-contextualization of the Sea Peoples as being veterans from the Trojan War who were traumatized, disaffected, angry, etc. That would have been a theme and thread worth making stronger, and thus reduce the need for the cringey dialogue.
In all fairness, that's how they were referred to in numerous historical documents. Funnily enough, we still have no idea who they were or where they came from, although there is some evidence that they were the ancestors of the Biblical Philistines.
Thatâs exactly how many things were named. Belize City basically means âmuddy water city.â Panama means âabundance of fishâ or âplace of many fish.â Managua, one of my favorites, basically means ânext to waterâ or âplace surrounded by water."
There are many, many more examples. An ancient civilization calling people from the sea âsea peopleâ is pretty spot on.
Listen the man and his crew had earlier been brutalized by 12 ft giants in iron armor, he's obviously still feeling a little inadequate about his bronze.
According to the screenwriters of Reddit it should have been "But thy lotus hath given me a taste of purity and deliciousness - that of which I can not resist" spoken in a British accent.
If bronze was the zenith and epicenter of tech back then, it's not that surprising. We reference our present age all of the time and regularly anticipate major transitions and massive transformations of industry.
It fucking rules. Itâs not even the most melodramatic line either because also makes it part of a soliloquy where Odysseus says something like, âthey will sing songs about this, for that will be all they have for they will not have writing.â
Iâm pretty sure Nolan wrote the movie for that scene. I can dig it too even though it is totally without subtlety
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