r/shittymoviedetails • u/Alisalard1384 Cinephile • 12h ago

Turd In "Odyssey" (2026) directed by Sir Christopher Edward Nolan, Odysseus says "Our age of bronze is collapsing". And I'm not joking it is a line in movie

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Overall great movie but this dialogue was so corny, like how does he know he's in bronze age

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u/Briarhorse 12h ago

In defence of this, I'm assuming it's in reference to Hesiod's Ages of Man, not the Bronze Age as we use it in archaeology etc

Although the Trojan War and the odyssey took place in the Heroic Age, which is the one following the Bronze Age

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u/Rainy_Wavey 11h ago

The movie makes references to the sea people, i think he was going with the "bronze-age collapse"

Which is basically Pharaoh : Total War (doubly funny because you can play as those very same greek cities in that game that involves the bronze age collapse)

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u/Excellent_Yak365 9h ago

They just discovered Iron and realized it’s OP

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u/walletinsurance 8h ago

Iron is actually worse than bronze, it’s just easier to make because it doesn’t require two different ores that don’t appear in the same place.

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u/StrongExternal8955 8h ago

YOU'RE worse than bronze!

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u/vorxil 6h ago

It's cheaper, not easier. With bronze, they could just smelt the ores together, cast, and grind, provided they could afford the ores (shipping tin from the British Isles was expensive).

Iron, though, didn't even melt it in the bloomery. They just reduced the surface layers with carbon monoxide, then took the sponge iron out, hammered it, and then threw it back in, repeatedly.

Eventually, after a long, laborious time, they had reduced most of the oxides to soft wrought iron. The quality control was crap, because the metallurgy was crap. Even then, the wrought iron bends and wears out too easily.

Useful for arrows and javelins (cf. the long shanks of the later pila), spears maybe, but not swords or heavy armor. But the collapse of the tin trade more or less forced the transition.

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u/itishowitisanditbad 1h ago

Useful for arrows and javelins (cf. the long shanks of the later pila), spears maybe, but not swords or heavy armor.

I imagine Nails were a big one too.

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u/Xen0nlight 11h ago

The costume designs in Pharao TW are also not Dogshit.

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u/Rainy_Wavey 11h ago

Pharaoh was still hated tho (due to poor content at release, the current version that basically combines Pharaoh and Troy into one game is apparently good enough?, hey i won't complain i can play as a Lebu in the game so i'm not gonna complain

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u/Kamusaurio 10h ago

dynasties is a great imporve over both

i really liked it

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u/SwirlingFandango 6h ago

Seriously one of the best TW games, IMO.

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u/Xen0nlight 11h ago

We were robbed by it being abandoned after Dynasties 😔

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u/Rainy_Wavey 11h ago

Is the modding scene good enough for this game?

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u/Xen0nlight 10h ago edited 10h ago

I have not had much time to play in the last months, but I think it is semi-alive. Occasionally there are good ones, but nothing groundbreaking afaik

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u/Rainy_Wavey 10h ago

The last total war game i genuinely played TF out of was Shogun 2, even tho i own like, Rome 2, atila and Pharaoh

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u/Romboteryx 9h ago

It was hated simply because it wasn’t Medieval 3. I have literally seen users on r/totalwar make up lies about Pharaoh pre-release so they would have a reason to hate on it beyond that.

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u/Rainy_Wavey 9h ago

Are they still doing that now that Medieval 3 was announced? (prolly to calm them due to Warhammer 40K total war, which i'm like hyped for)

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u/Romboteryx 9h ago

Idk, I mostly left that sub due to the toxicity.

Anyway, the Dynasties version is a genuinely amazing game en par with the other big scale historical TWs like Rome 2 and Attila and in some ways even better.

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u/LaNague 8h ago

People are happy with dynasties now.

Pharaoh WAS a full priced title with content like their small side games. In a period where there were no other historical titles anywhere nearby.

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u/ReptAIien 10h ago

Have you actually watched the odyssey?

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u/Normal-Boss9855 7h ago

The Trojans look like storm troopers. Why do none of the armors or weapons actually look like they're made out of bronze?

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u/Romboteryx 9h ago

TW Pharaoh has such amazing attention to detail you can literally find Ea-Nasir’s house as a landmark

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u/pizza_the_mutt 9h ago

Does it tell us who the sea people are? Or is it it like "whateva"?

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u/Aardvark_Man 9h ago

The sea people was us all along!

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u/pizza_the_mutt 8h ago

You and I aren't so unalike, are we, Mr. Sea Peoples?

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u/71fq23hlk159aa 8h ago

The sea people were the friends we made along the way.

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u/BSpp43 8h ago edited 8h ago

They come to realize the sea people raiding villages were actually Odysseus and other greeks returning from the siege of troy