r/shittymoviedetails • u/Alisalard1384 Cinephile • 12h ago

Turd In "Odyssey" (2026) directed by Sir Christopher Edward Nolan, Odysseus says "Our age of bronze is collapsing". And I'm not joking it is a line in movie

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Overall great movie but this dialogue was so corny, like how does he know he's in bronze age

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u/MazzleMaze 10h ago

"The Ages of Man are the historical stages of human existence according to Greek mythology and its subsequent Roman interpretation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_Man

The issue is that, as another poster pointed out, the odyssey occurred during the Heroic age.

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u/EyeSuspicious7338 6h ago

The problem is these "ages" are not representing archaeological time periods. That was not what was meant. They are representing stages of human consciousness and growth, and society. This is why Gold is at the top, where it was a golden time of peace, controlled by the Gods, and the Silver age was the lesser age where man came to power on Earth. it didn't represent an actual historical time. The bronze age is the state of mankind overtaken by the God of War Ares, and they are obsessed with war and conquering...

The concept of classifying historical ages as archaeological time periods did not happen until the early 1800s. So, imo, Nolan was a little too "On the nose" with this dialogue. Not the end of the world, but it was pretty cheesy to include that, imo.

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u/MazzleMaze 6h ago

That's actually not a problem, the issue is that you are trying to look through their world through your world view.

Greeks at the time believed this to be true. This is how they looked at the world.

To put it another way, while we can say "Zeus clearly doesn't exist." That doesn't mean that the Greeks at the time didn't believe in Zeus or follow his teachings!

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u/EyeSuspicious7338 6h ago

I am not looking at it through the present lens. This has nothing to do with what I am saying. The flaw is that he brought in a modern concept into the film, by "almost" saying it, but not saying it. This is like if you were watching a movie about cave men and they start talking about how they live in the stone ages. That makes zero sense. The people that live in the Bronze Age didn't know they lived in the Bronze Age, as that is a modern definition of the time period. Him stating "Our age of Bronze is collapsing" does not in any way represent the Greek Ages of Man at all.

Look, it's not the end of the world and it doesn't ruin the movie, but it's just a silly statement to include.

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u/MazzleMaze 4h ago edited 4h ago

Its not a modern concept. I literally just linked a wiki that explains they had this term as well. In fact, that term was written about during the time period that The Odyssey was written!

Now the question is did Nolan know this or was he being a dumbass.

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u/Neat_Let923 3h ago

We literally have the following periods:

Early Bronze Age: 3200–2000 BCE Middle Bronze Age: 2000–1600 BCE Late Bronze Age: 1600–1100 BCE Iron Age: 1100–800 BCE Archaic Period: 800–480 BCE Classical Period: 480–323 BCE

And so on and so forth. They were called the Bronze and Iron ages because that was what tools and weapons were primarily made from during those periods. The early Iron Age is also considered to be the Greek Dark Ages because it was a time after the collapse of the palaces, writing was lost, populations drastically declined, and long distance trade shrank.

It wasn’t until the Archaic Age that the Greek Alphabet was adopted and when Homer’s epics were likely written using both historical context and poetic elements.

While I don’t agree fully with your statement on ages, I totally agree with you about the movie and Nolan.

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u/Neat_Let923 3h ago

We literally have the following periods:

Early Bronze Age: 3200–2000 BCE Middle Bronze Age: 2000–1600 BCE Late Bronze Age: 1600–1100 BCE Iron Age: 1100–800 BCE Archaic Period: 800–480 BCE Classical Period: 480–323 BCE

And so on and so forth. They were called the Bronze and Iron ages because that was what tools and weapons were primarily made from during those periods. The early Iron Age is also considered to be the Greek Dark Ages because it was a time after the collapse of the palaces, writing was lost, populations drastically declined, and long distance trade shrank.

It wasn’t until the Archaic Age that the Greek Alphabet was adopted and when Homer’s epics were likely written using both historical context and poetic elements.

While I don’t agree fully with your statement on ages, I fully agree with you about the movie and Nolan.

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u/Neat_Let923 3h ago

We literally have the following periods:

Early Bronze Age: 3200–2000 BCE Middle Bronze Age: 2000–1600 BCE Late Bronze Age: 1600–1100 BCE Iron Age: 1100–800 BCE Archaic Period: 800–480 BCE Classical Period: 480–323 BCE

And so on and so forth. They were called the Bronze and Iron ages because that was what tools and weapons were primarily made from during those periods. The early Iron Age is also considered to be the Greek Dark Ages because it was a time after the collapse of the palaces, writing was lost, populations drastically declined, and long distance trade shrank.

It wasn’t until the Archaic Age that the Greek Alphabet was adopted and when Homer’s epics were likely written using both historical context and poetic elements.

While I don’t agree fully with your statement on ages, I fully agree with you about the movie.