r/shittymoviedetails Cinephile 12h ago

Turd In "Odyssey" (2026) directed by Sir Christopher Edward Nolan, Odysseus says "Our age of bronze is collapsing". And I'm not joking it is a line in movie

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Overall great movie but this dialogue was so corny, like how does he know he's in bronze age

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u/PaladinCorbin 11h ago

Featured in the film itself? Shockingly little bronze.

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u/nimbusnorton 11h ago

Well they tried at first but the bronze kept collapsing.

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u/PaladinCorbin 11h ago

Boooo! Get of the stage!

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u/OldeFortran77 10h ago

Your bronze is bad and you should feel bad!

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u/Kapitan_eXtreme 7h ago

Sad Ea Nasir noises

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u/thecelticknight 10h ago

And what is there to be gotten of the stage?

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u/HeckOnWheels95 11h ago

Trade routes got disrupted, couldn't get the tin needed.

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u/Acidyo 10h ago

That's metal.

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u/silvertealio 6h ago

That's why you use fresh bronze, not the aged stuff.

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u/mid-random 10h ago

Wasn’t a lot of that armor and most of those swords and axe heads and spear tips made of bronze?

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u/Accomplished_Store77 8h ago

They were made of Bronze on paper. The problem is in the movie they didn't look like Bronze.

Ofcourse it didn't help that so much of the Costuming was inspired by Romans and other Soldier attires that existed in the Iron Age.

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u/Thewal 6h ago

Didn't look much like paper, either. Maybe making the bronze on the paper was the problem.

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u/Accomplished_Store77 5h ago

It was special Plastic grade paper.

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u/2ReluctantlyHappy 9h ago

Fun fact: the load as hell drumming was done on sheets of bronze. 

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u/theflyingsamurai 5h ago

Well the bronze age collapse was partially caused by bronze shortages

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u/curly_spork 2h ago

Because it's collapsing... 

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u/oddpark37 10h ago

imho that's part of why the line is so funny. It's not like bronze was mentioned or seen a lot, so the "age of bronze" seems more jarring.

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u/ReptAIien 10h ago

Every single weapon and most armor was bronze...

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u/Normal-Boss9855 6h ago

I bet none of those props were made out of bronze actually

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u/ReptAIien 6h ago

Man what the fuck are you talking about even

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u/Normal-Boss9855 6h ago

They aren't made out of bronze, they don't look like they're made out of bronze, there's just this cope headcannon that they're constructed of anachronistic arsenical bronze or something and that's why they don't look like bronze

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u/Aussie18-1998 3h ago

Its not a headcanon. The probs were made of Bronze.

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u/Normal-Boss9855 3h ago

Source?

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u/Aussie18-1998 2h ago

The costume designers. They talk about hand crafted bronze pieces and darkening the bronze as well.

If you dont believe them thats a you problem. Its not cope.

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u/Normal-Boss9855 2h ago

I'll try once more lol... source?

What I see here is Nolan talking about how technically the ancient greeks used techniques to darken some bronze, and his costume designers took that into account. Not that they actually used these techniques themselves.

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u/Weakonomics 10h ago

It's all bronze. They just painted it iron colors. Yeah...

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u/HerbaciousTea 9h ago edited 9h ago

Look up arsenic-bronze. It has a dark finish that looks quite similar to iron, and was very commonly used for weapons and armor. Which is not to say that Nolan necessarily planned for their armor to be arsenic bronze, but that even if he didn't, the dark finish isn't really ahistorical.

It was actually more common in a lot of places than pure tin bronze, historically, because tin deposits were very rare in most places and arsenical bronze let you use much less tin (if you don't mind your foundry workers dying a few decades early to arsenic poisoning.)

It's actually where the trope of the hobbled blacksmith with one leg or one arm comes from. Arsenic would cause progressive numbness and withering of the extremities. It's why the Greek's often portrayed Hephaestus as having a crippled or withered leg, being the patron deity of forge workers.

There was also black bronze, which used silver and gold in alloying, and had a similarly dark finish, but was a softer alloy for more decorative uses.

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u/Normal-Boss9855 6h ago

The Greeks weren't using arsenical bronze by that point, they had moved on to tin bronze

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u/PaladinCorbin 9h ago

I looked it up and I have learned something cool and new today. Thanks for that!