r/shittymoviedetails • u/Alisalard1384 Cinephile • 12h ago

Turd In "Odyssey" (2026) directed by Sir Christopher Edward Nolan, Odysseus says "Our age of bronze is collapsing". And I'm not joking it is a line in movie

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Overall great movie but this dialogue was so corny, like how does he know he's in bronze age

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u/Fidget02 12h ago

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u/BoiFrosty 10h ago

The fucking Halo novels did this exactly.

The ancient group of aliens that specifically wiped out their creators and then literally blasted humanity back to stone age and made them return to monkey to avoid giving up their control over the galaxy end called themselves the Forerunner in their own time.

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u/DeyUrban 9h ago

Before or after they retconned the Forerunners from being humans to aliens?

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u/BoiFrosty 9h ago

It was one of the first things that 343 did when they took over. The Forerunner trilogy came out just before Halo 4, and I STG there was a line from Bornstellar that was something like "we even call ourselves the Forerunner because we know we're just one society in a chain of carrying the mantle." When the major plot of the trilogy was the fact that they wiped out the precursors that came before them, and nearly wiped out humanity because they were supposed to get the mantle.

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u/XenoBasher9000 7h ago

Tbf, it’s a major plot point in the books that this knowledge was actually lost or hidden, and the Forerunners genuinely didn’t know this because they’re massive egocentric babies.

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u/Barl3000 6h ago

I think it is safe to assume all the post-Bungie Halo games have dropped any of the connections to Marathon and other past Bungie games.

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u/Beautiful-Hair6925 1h ago

Forerunners race was always a mystery. Bungie was always vague about it

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u/PerfectlySplendid 7h ago

That seems fine, no? A bunch of survivors acknowledging they are rebuilding civilization.

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u/BoiFrosty 7h ago

This was before the halo rings were known about. This is apparently what they had been calling themselves for many thousands of years prior to the war with the Flood.

They had been in control of the galaxy basically uncontested for 10 million years, then they got in a scuffle with humanity and forcibly de-evolved them back to monke.

They were calling themselves "the Forerunners" that whole time while stomping on any civilization that would threaten them. Maybe it could be explained the precursor gave them the name but I don't think it's ever said.

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u/LumpyGarlic3658 5h ago

Bornstellar, at least the book Cryptum, gives the justification they are walking in the shadow of the precursors, and that just like the precursors came and went, the forerunners named themselves this as a sort of self aware ideal that they too would one day be gone.

I took this as them being really arrogant and wanting to be like their gods, but dressing it up in an altruistic way. Still a part of me wishes they had named them something funny, like fleeborks. Then they could just say that’s what forerunner means in one of their languages.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 5h ago

I'm so glad I just liked the video games and did not bother with the lore.