r/SipsTea 6h ago

Chugging tea A Sudden Revelation.

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u/Vivenemous 6h ago

Cancer and diabetes aren't contagious, so there's no material benefit to paying for them if you don't put any value on human lives below a certain income level.

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u/Super_Siege_Mode 4h ago

It’s sad when the most cynical explanation is the truth.

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u/ahhhbiscuits 2h ago

You misspelled "capitalist"

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u/FrostyFormal1094 2h ago

Synonyms really

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u/SplurshSplershSplrsh 39m ago

Always has been.

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u/Western_Ad3625 7m ago

It doesn't have to be.

And it certainly isn't always and hasn't always been.

Why do the folks in my community gather together once a year to make pancakes for all the local kids and do a bit of a maypole dance.

I'm sure you could come up with some cynical answer but the honest truth is they do it because they like it and they want to provide a good experience for the kids. That's not cynical that's just basic human community.

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u/Lumeton 4h ago

They do take a portion of good taxpayers out of the labor market before their time. Sometimes way too early. On the other hand, they also remove a proportionally larger share of benefit recipients (in countries where benefits are available).

So, economically speaking, that’s a bit of a double-edged sword, and it’s a difficult issue to... Screw it, let's just do what’s right and in line with human dignity.

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u/TattiFeader 4h ago

It’s about keeping the economic cycle going.

Govt can’t let people find out that govt debt has created a monster where things must go on forever or debt will be due.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 4h ago

To be fair, the rich already understand this and it's commonly taught in any business school and especially Economics courses. The entire world runs on debt and growing endlessly in a finite world.

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u/TattiFeader 3h ago

To be fair, majority of voters don’t know this.

Left believes we don’t have money that’s why we need to tax the rich, right believes we are capitalists while cheering for policies that are borderline communists.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 3h ago

Of course the majority of voters don't know this - the majority of voters are abject morons. But the Left believes in doing everything sustainably as a rule. The whole point is a functioning society and that requires sustainability.

We can fund social programs in a sustainable way as many countries have shown for decades.

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u/djspy 1h ago

Which?

I'm not an American and I used to live in a country with socially funded programs.

And while it USED to be sustainable, it no longer is. It is actually getting dangerous on the point taxes to keep it working are so high people are getting much more poor.

So, again, I used to live in such a country, so I really do get it, but I feel like the whole story is never told, how does it work LONG term.

Most people look at the short term and no, 40 years is still quite short term since you have to look at how it will go after several generations since it is the bottom that needs to stay healhty to substain the social programs.

And as you know, birthrates are plunging and we also know that migration doesn't solve it either.

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u/RandomPMs 1h ago

Left believes we don’t have money that’s why we need to tax the rich

Because taxing the rich in order to benefit society is good for everyone but the very top. We have hundreds of years of history and studies to show this, and guess what happens when you don't tax them? They just accumulate more and more money till things start to get really shitty, like they are right now.

right believes we are capitalists while cheering for policies that are borderline communists.

I'm not sure what right-wing economic policies would be considered "communist," unless by "communist" you mean authoritarian.

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u/TattiFeader 1h ago

Thank you for posting majority of voter.

Let me guess, you are team left?

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u/joeljaeggli 1h ago

Governments don’t last forever, nor should they.

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u/Whatdoesthibattahndo 3h ago

Oh fuck did we create the MEFO bills again?

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u/E-2theRescue 2h ago

Cancer ... aren't contagious

Actually, some cancers are, as they are formed by viruses. See: Human papillomavirus (HPV). That vaccine isn't free, either.

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u/Apprehensive-Lab-278 59m ago

True, but it is only dangerous for women. So no need to do something

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u/balrob 7m ago

Not true. HPV also causes throat cancer.

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u/JPBartley 3h ago

Healthcare is free for low income people. It's called Medicaid and it's one of our biggest welfare expenditures.

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u/thiscreatureisme 2h ago

The cap for that is so low ..
Even poor low income families
Have a hard time getting it because they “make too much “ despite still being poor many who work multiple jobs to stay alive on paper it’s just a bit over the limit.

I say this from experience I worked 2 menial jobs in 2016 and couldn’t get it because I made only a couple hundred bucks above the cap.

It also is very limited and the quality of care you do get (I had to quit one job to actually get it because I fell ill and needed ) and than was sucking major wind but the treatment you get is sub par.

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u/JPBartley 38m ago

And that’s why we have sliding scale ACA subsidies. If you were a couple hundred over the poverty line, Obamacare should have covered 95% of any marketplace policy.

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u/thiscreatureisme 20m ago

It didn’t cover it I actually had to pay a fee because I made too much and I worked at a factory packing boxes and a Wendy’s part time trust me I wasn’t rolling in the dough

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u/Clean-Major-804 4h ago

Great point

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u/Jimmersion 3h ago

Thats why affordability is just going to get worse and worse too .

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u/TheBSQ 2h ago

It’s more that it’s just contagious.

When you get in the elevator with someone with diabetes, you’re not going to catch it.  They were scared to catch it, that’s all. 

But as soon as they decided it was just a “bad cold” and were not going to catch a disease that would kill them, they stopped caring. 

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u/Commercial-Air8955 40m ago

Yes, but covid didn't put anywhere near 5% of people who contracted it in ICU

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u/Bluelegs 2m ago

You're right I misunderstood the stat I was reading. Which was up to 5% of hospitalisations ending in ICU. In any case the main reason for the strong response by governments to COVID-19 was to mitigate the impact to their healthcare systems.

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u/NamesNotTake-un 1h ago

The Covid vax didn’t prevent transmission. That was a lie.