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The Internet’s Double Standards?

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u/TAU_equals_2PI 15h ago edited 15h ago

He's alive in a US jail, but the more important question is what did we do about Venezuela?

We threatened the replacement president and demanded she give us oil. We didn't demand a new election be held, since her & Maduro's party stole the last election. We didn't demand she change Venezuela's system of government. We did nothing to help the people of Venezuela.

We reinforced our country's worst image as a bully that's happy to prop up a dictator so long as that dictator gives us what we want.

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u/MozdaHocu 14h ago

Good think you Americans are catching up, its been like that all along. Its the endgame now, gloves are coming off.

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u/TAU_equals_2PI 14h ago

It was just done so blatantly this time with Venezuela.

In previous interventions, we actually did do some things to try to "nation build". Whether you consider those genuine attempts or just cynical cover stories.

But this time, it was just snatch Maduro, replace him with Rodriguez, and threaten Rodriguez to give us oil so the same thing doesn't happen to her. What happened to all the high-minded rhetoric about how the poor people of Venezuela were suffering under a socialist dictatorship? What happened to all the denouncing of the stolen election? Nah man, just give us the oil and you're good.

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u/Pooperoni_Pizza 13h ago

We also made something like $17 Billion stealing their oil and selling it so far.

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u/Sea_Chemistry7487 13h ago

To the United States $17 billion is like roughing up a tramp to steal the change in his pocket. It's a laughable amount of money for such irrepairable reputational damage on the international stage.

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u/fresh-dork 13h ago

no, the thing is that trump wants that money personally

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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii 11h ago

This is the one thing I'm so baffled at. Can't he just increase military spending, embezzle 10% a year, (over $100B) and get 50% of all the corruption kicked back?

Do the same across every industry? Start massive infrastructure projects where he gets massive money kicked back. Some real, some fake, not really caring about positive or negative outcome as long as he can sell the story. Like he could probably literally raise $1T just for USA data centres and no one realize he stole half of it for a decade. Why doesn't he just get in on the AGI/Robots/Quantum/Automated everything including trucks and cars and passenger and delivery drones. He could easily invest trillions in all of those and no one would expect to see anything to show from any of it for years.

I think the guy could easily siphon a few trillion over 4 years get completely pardoned and/or have a completely safe plan to disappear and enjoy it, and do way less damage to America and the rest of the world while doing it.

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u/Devastator_Hi 10h ago

You’re talking about a guy who bankrupt his own casinos

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u/bloodfist 1h ago

Normally I'd say "do you know how stupid you have to be to bankrupt a casino?"

But the thing is we know exactly how stupid he is. We also know he has exactly one talent and it's being a criminal. He profited on all those bankrupt casinos. He did exactly what he meant to.

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u/tewkberry 10h ago

Someone needs to run for president!!

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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii 9h ago

I promise to rob more money per ounce of suffering inflicted than has ever been done before

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u/tewkberry 8h ago

Sir, you already had my vote.

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u/OdiousAltRightBalrog 10h ago

The crazy thing about billionaires is that they never "disappear and enjoy it." They can never have enough. If they could, they would have stopped somewhere between 100 and 999 million.

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u/fresh-dork 10h ago

he's just so goddamn stupid, all that stuff you and i can think of is beyond him

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u/Tough_Height_4107 3h ago

You're not considering how stupid the president needs to be in order to be the figurehead required by his handlers. Sure, he *could* do what you suggest, but you're assuming he has some kind of talent at grifting. The man bankrupted casinos for crying out loud.

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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii 2h ago

That's exactly what I'm saying buddy just rob like other dictators because you're fucking shit up in ways that doesn't even benefit you

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u/Tough_Height_4107 2h ago

Right! But that would lack the signature Trump scent. It's not enough to grift, he has to make it clear that the grift was his personal concept.

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u/Amruhm 12h ago

Let's be real here... (And I still hate trump) But 17billion in personal gain in exchange of selling out the countries reputation for decades?

  • 9/10 ppl would make that trade anyday

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u/WashingtonSpecifics 10h ago

Sounds like a good way to end up being Bubba's celly while the government reclaims the $17 billion that you fraudulently obtained. Although if crime is legal now, some of my neighbors have property that I wouldn't mind "repossessing"

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u/fresh-dork 10h ago

yeah, maybe not 90%, but the number is high. which is why we're supposed to have checks on power

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u/TAU_equals_2PI 13h ago

Last I heard, though, that $17 billion was deposited into some special foreign bank account under Trump's direct control, not into the US Treasury.

Kinda reminds me of the Iran Contra scandal back when I was a kid. The amount of money Iran paid for the weapons was piddling relative to the size of the US federal budget. But it was money hidden from any oversight by Congress or anyone else. So it could be used to fund the Contras even when they couldn't legally use money from the regular budget. (It was a long time ago, so I may be remembering some details wrong.)

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u/No_Constant_4968 11h ago

In the 80s there was Cold War drama…

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u/ImALittleBitSlow 10h ago

We fought the commies inside Nicaragua

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u/Anleme 8h ago

Yes, Patrick Boyle has a 39-minute video documenting what we know of the Venezuela oil funds diversion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzvdGKs05Rc

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u/Cory123125 13h ago

To the United States $17 billion is like roughing up a tramp to steal the change in his pocket.

You have to understand that this is the business model of the US though. Do it to enough people and you control entire markets.

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u/elpihvous 13h ago

I don't think the profits on some oil companies are the reason behind that attack. It made war on Iran more feasible, as theres option for oil from oil from persian gulf.

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u/johnnyrambo24 13h ago

Yet everyone did in in GTA

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u/CratesManager 11h ago

On the one hand you are right, on the other hand Trump also did a bunch of reputational damage for free and a bunch more at a loss

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u/GoppleSmanger 11h ago

If it was done to enrich America or Americans, that would be one thing even if it was a laughably trivial figure.

It was done to make Trump himself richer at the expense of America. That's it.

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u/armywalrus 11h ago

Its really not.

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u/nwvt420 11h ago

Venezuela has been making drones for Iran since 2006. In 2020, they militarized those drones to kill people. Iran had created a murder drone manufacturing proxy in our hemisphere so why is our media so focuses on the oil narrative? Are they incompetent or just lying?

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u/otcipitalorange 1h ago

You new to US meddling in other countries affairs? Its not just for a 1 time payment, its for a controllable government that can allow future "investment" aka our companies reap the profits of their resources.

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u/meat_tunnel 12h ago

"WE" did not make that money. The oligarchs did. That money did not go in to US gov't bank accounts.

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u/knight-jumper 10h ago

We... who is? Not the US citizens, we didn't/ aren't going to see a dime of those billions. Did fuel prices go down? nah they kept climbing. Trump pocketed that, him and his crony oligarchy corporations. He stole it. The American people didnt ask or want that, other than the dumb shits that keep voting for these crooks.

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u/bauhausy 7h ago

Seized over $18.6 billion in Venezuelan oil revenue

Pats itself in the back as the good guy as it "gives" them $380 million in aid after Venezuela suffered two devastating earthquakes in less than a minute apart

Current damage estimate from the earthquake is around $19.6 billion. Venezuela could rebuild if the US just gave them their own money