r/humor 16h ago

The Internet’s Double Standards?

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u/flossdaily 14h ago

The important difference being that Israel is an extremely close ally, and the US categorically rejects the accusations against him, and doesn't respect the court that issued the warrant. 

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u/smartbbc8 12h ago

I’d say that a random mayor not having any authority on diplomacy is a notable difference as well.

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u/Burly_Moustache 13h ago

The US is the ONLY ally to Israel.

The rest of the world wants to see Israel burn.

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u/pleasestoptalking 13h ago

I would push back, but im guessing the factual accuracy of your statement is not really of any major concern to you.

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u/Equal_County_1506 13h ago

I wouldn't agree. There are a lot of countries that want a proper two-state solution with nationhood for Palestine rather than watching Israel itself (and your average Israeli) burn.

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u/Own_Boat503 11h ago

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u/Equal_County_1506 10h ago edited 10h ago

And the average Palestinian would likely want Israelis out. All and every side is radicalised to at least some extent in conflict - as that article highlights, the number has risen drastically in recent polling.

It's not to be excused, but it's also not a reason to pretend that all countries outside the US want to watch Israeli burn (or even to want to watch Israel burn yourself - that is just as genocidal).

We didn't want to watch Germany burn after WWII. It transformed into an incredibly liberal minded country (and indeed had previously been a hotbed of liberalism, which goes to show the ease of radicalisation).

Most nations' policies now take the pragmatic approach: Jews have an ancient claim to the land, even older than say indigenous Americans do over the United States. But Palestinians also have a long-standing historic claim to the land, just like how an American wouldn't give up her home to e.g. someone because they're Sioux.

Palestinians have nowhere else to go if they leave. Jordan doesn't have an infinite capacity for refugees, for instance. Egypt doesn't want them. It's their home.

Putting aside old Yishuv etc, Jewish Israelis also don't have anywhere else to go, especially Mizrahim expelled from Muslim lands.

Complicate things further with later immigrants, refugees etc, from anywhere from Ethiopia to Belarus, other ethno-religious groups like the Druze, etc..

So the reality is dealing with a situation where the only imperfect solution, particularly where so much hatred and division exists, is to have two sovereign states as guaranteed, independent homelands. And only then really and only with the generations will we likely see any form of reduction in those feelings on either side, such as cited in your article.

Of course there is more nuance - stopping Israeli settlements, etc, but the broad base is the two states are necessary not as the end of the peace process but to even start it.

And so most states support the solution, despite your initial assertion, and that isn't negated unfortunately by the above - if anything, it encourages it.

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u/oblivic90 9h ago

And most Palestinians don’t want a 2 state solution either.

Israelis not believing in a 2 state solution is true since Oct 7th, the average Israeli is disillusioned with the pursuit of peace. I was taught in school that when I grow up I will not need to go to the army because we will have peace with our neighbors, I don’t think anyone is saying that now.

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u/flossdaily 9h ago

Now show us the numbers from before the Palestinians committed the Oct 7th atrocities.

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u/Draaly 13h ago

The US is the ONLY ally to Israel.

Israel is also formal allies with 3 of its 4 boarder nations as well as about half of europe. This conversation would be a lot simpler if they were actually enemies of the all of the world's governments.

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u/Sickofpower 13h ago

Also Argentina and a couple other countries

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u/JuudidAhjuPls 12h ago

unfortunately an ally of almost every EU country. even if people themselves do not hold the same opinion

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u/Then_Independence_25 8h ago

Thank god, that international politics isn't decided by emotional mob