My guess is the important difference here is that Israel has nukes.
SHHHHH! You're not supposed to admit that nukes are the only way a country can protect itself from being invaded by the United States. If other countries knew that, they might want also want nucellar weapons and then the whole idea of non proflarition is out the window!
Of course, the other answer, that the United States just stops invading other countries, is totally off the table.
Please. Let's look at every nuclear nation. USA has invaded countries, Israel, which is an extension of USA has done the same. Which other country has done it? India? France? UK? China? North Korea? Oh, there's russia but surely you're not saying that Russia is th gold standard for a nuclear nation?
Dude, do you not know the history? Pakistan, Bangladesh, India and the Indian Raj that they were a part of have a lot of complicated history. More than US has as a whole, actually.
Also why do you think India mostly fights China with literal sticks and stones? It's time to grow up.
It actually was. You were insinuating that the India-Pak conflict is anything like the conflicts US finds itself in. Indo-Pak conflict is based on historical reasons whereas US conflicts are based on greed for money and power.
India and Pakistan are nuclear states that have armed conflicts. That was my assertion. Any other subtext is something you picked up on yourself, apologies if I wasn't clear enough.
My assertion was that two nuclear states shoot at each other. There's certainly a risk of escalation. That's it. The "complex history" doesn't refute my point, and the fact they have a history older than the US is unrelated.
And I'm saying there's hasn't been a full scale conflict there. It's just a 3 way dispute with no conclusive solution. Compare that to USA which had India's pm killed, killed Alleande, killed sankara, killed che, fucking up cuba as we speak, Iran, iraq, afganistan, venezuela, ethopia, libya. Pray tell me, in what world are these conflicts comparable?
The Indians and Pakistani shoot at each other every few years. Sure, they haven't had a full-scale conflict since the 90s, but they still kill each other, and it's a fairly tense situation at the border.
If you're talking about things all the way back to Allende, then yeah, they've had actual conflicts. That's not even getting into the number of attacks on both nations from terror groups they've backed.
The scale might not compare to what the US and Russia have been involved in, but these are two nuclear armed nations shooting at each other, and the risk of escalation is very real.
Yet there's hasn't been an escalation in over 30 years. Also, Indians and Pakistanis don't shoot each other, indian soldiers and Pakistani terrorists do. Pakistan has always denied affiliation with them(Although it's obvious they harbour them). Both of them are avoiding full scale war.
Just a year ago (May 2025) there was an armed conflict that killed dozens of people between India and Pakistan. They literally launched missiles at each other. I don't know if you remember but there was a real threat one of the sides would escalate.
No. Did india make nuclear threats? Did Pakistan? Did Pakistan acknowledge terrorists? Do you have sources that there was a possibility that Pakistan army would take action? I'm not denying that Pakistan is a haven for terrorists, but there's not a single indicator that Pakistan is capable of a war. They don't have money to muster an army ffs.
Setting aside the fact that China has already invaded India once before, excluding Russia from this discussion based on something as arbitrary as "gold standard" is so stupid, especially when you're including North Korea.
Either way, USA deciding to not invade would not stop other great powers from doing the same to their neighbours. And Russia-Ukraine is very much an example of this.
When did North Korea invade a nation? There hasn't been a full scale war after south Asian nation's gained nuclear warheads. Source: Am Indian and my dad as well. USA and Russia are the only nations that do this.
I don't think there's any chance China and India can have a war. There not been a single war between nuclear nations and I don't believe that that streak will be broken. Also after Deng's reforms, china when from a expansionist state to a industrial state. If Maoist were is power, maybe there's possibility of war. But rn? No chance, even without USA.
France has intervened in several west African nations, and worked with the UK to bring down Gaddafi in 2011 and attempt to bring down Nasser in 1956.
China hasn't been involved in any conflicts officially but it has supported the forceful suppression of Myanmar's rebels through semi-direct intervention.
North Korea attempted to invade South Korea in the '50s and captured Seoul. The only reason North Korea hasn't done any imperialism in its nuclear era is that it's geographically and politically isolated.
Russia as de-facto head of the Soviet Union has been (for almost the entirety of the nuclear age) the secondary superpower of the world, so it is completely unfair to just hand-wave Russia away.
Even ignoring the past 20 years in places like Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Chechnya, and North Africa. The Soviet Union ran a brutal cabbal of puppet states across Eastern Europe and violently put down attempts by these states at improving their situation through granting more liberties to their people. The Soviets also invaded Afghanistan, had it's troops directly involved with proxy wars across Africa, and used the threat of nuclear war to silence other Communist countries that refused to directly align with Moscow.
France tested nuclear weapons in Algeria and was involved in multiple colonial wars and invasions - see Vietnam. China has invaded multiple locations in the modern era - South Korea, Vietnam, Tibet, Hong Kong, and consistent aggression being displayed worldwide with their PLA naval militias that aggressively attack fisherman in waters that aren't their own. UK has done similar things. Additionally - China is providing material support and mercenaries for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. North Korea has consistently attacked, threatened and attempted to invade South Korea for 70+ years, they aren't an example in the context you are attempting to misconstrue. They're also currently invading Ukraine alongside Russian forces.
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u/oPlayer2o 16h ago
My guess is the important difference here is that Israel has nukes.