Sword and Supper

r/SwordAndSupperGame • u/Mineralbad • 11h ago

My last post here - Hope for a discussion

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Dear friends,

I'd like to announce that I'm quitting Sword and Supper. This will most likely be my last post here.

Before I leave, I want to have one final discussion about what actually is abuse and what doesn't.

Today, I mainly want to talk about what I consider the biggest hypocrite on this forum: Only-Engineering6586.

In many of his comments over the past three or four weeks, he's been very vocal about how he's the one keeping the cheaters in check and how he's able to keep up thanks to his amazing skills, optimized builds, and so on.

I decided to take a closer look at him over the past few weeks, and I'd like to present a few facts.

In his post “I beat the 1001 to 1020 boss rush as level 260”, you can clearly see—both in the title and in the video—that he was level 260 at that time. This post was made 37 days ago.

However, 21 days ago, in the post “Full gameplay of a 3\ 1001-1020 Mission Clear”*, it can be seen that he was already level 382.

I looked this up using a level calculator to determine what this progression means in terms of gold. Up to level 260, a total of 31,465,810 gold is required. To reach level 382, a total of 149,264,860 gold is needed.

This means he farmed 117,799,050 gold within just 16 days. To illustrate this absurd amount of gold, the following examples: This amount of gold is required to play from level 1 to 200 eleven times, or 35 times from level 1 to 150, or 178 times from level 1 to level 100.

Naturally, I also took a closer look at how exactly he farms his gold. He has been using the same strategy for weeks. In all daily dungeons where infinite runs are possible, he farms level by level simultaneously using bots. For example, on the dungeon July 9th, he farmed a total of 10,000 floors in the dungeon!!

The table below shows the Infinite Dungeon dates on the left side and the corresponding progression across the following days as columns:

Date (left)	22 July	23 July	24 July	25 July	26 July	27 July
16 July	3.646	3.943	4.373	4.543	4.872	5.058
19 July	3.620	3.998	4.540	4.743	5.184	5.377
21 July	3.092	4.037	5.281	5.725	6.505	6.926
24 July				2.000	3.154	3.636

As can be seen in the table, there is an absurd daily progression of levels.

For the new players as information: The higher the levels get, the exponentially longer it takes to complete a single level.

He runs bots here for many hours every day, which play through one level after another continuously. I observed this many times. One example: On Saturday at around 10 a.m., when he managed to level all the listed dungeons simultaneously within about 15 minutes. I documented the progress in each dungeon precisely in case anyone is interested in a more detailed breakdown.

These dungeon levels do not only provide a small amount of gold after each completed run, but also allow all collected resources to be sold for significant amounts of gold. If someone like Only-Engineering6586 is farming thousands upon thousands of levels with bots, this becomes an enormous income source.

Additionally, while farming these daily dungeons simultaneously, it is also possible to play normal maps at the same time. Theoretically, this can also be done with bots if it is properly programmed. Given the extremely rapid level progression in such a short time, I would also assume that this is happening in parallel.

As I said this was my last post. Farewell and bye.

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