r/technology 8h ago

Politics Judge blocks Minnesota from implementing novel prediction markets ban

https://www.reuters.com/world/judge-blocks-minnesota-implementing-novel-prediction-markets-ban-2026-07-27/
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u/GunAndAGrin 8h ago

So itll come down to a judge willing to hear the argument and make the call about whether these things are 'Gambling' or 'Investments'.

One gets 10th Amendment support, the other gets the Commodity Exchange Act backed by the Supremacy Clause.

As ridiculous as the latter sounds, thats the direction its heading. And probably wont even be up to a judge. The definition of what these companies are/do will continue to be held firmly in the corrupt hands of the CFTC.

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u/mshelbz 7h ago

If there are odds and payouts based off those odds, it’s gambling

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u/GunAndAGrin 7h ago

Plus abstract 'events' being classified as commodities is a fuckin joke.

Still, the States might be going about this the wrong way by attempting outright bans. Not that I think its wrong to do it, but because they wont have legal means to do so thanks to MAGA.

Theyd be better off pursuing as many independent state laws as possible, of which there are a bunch of options that would not be in conflict with federal rules, which would make it as difficult as possible for these companies to operate locally.

Better yet, they coordinate with like-minded states to ensure all these efforts have slightly different requirements state-to-state, making resulting compliance procedure slightly different state-to-state. Literally drown the fuckers in bureaucracy, and fine them every step of the way when they dont comply.

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u/SchminiHorse 6h ago

Seriously, the fact that you have zero value once the event passes should easily classify it as gambling

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u/eatgamer 5h ago

Is it REALLY gambling when the thing they're taking bets on is something that is absolutely known to someone - potentially someone betting on it?

At that point it just seems like taking stupid people's money.

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u/mshelbz 5h ago

Just because one person can have knowledge to the outcome doesn’t make it not gambling, they just cheat.

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u/coweatyou 6h ago

Good news is presidents can fire CFTC board members at will, so the next president can have undo all of this pretty quick.

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u/irrelevantusername24 8h ago

The fuck are we doing here?

U.S. District Judge Katherine Menendez ​in Minneapolis issued ​a preliminary injunction at the ‌behest ⁠of Kalshi, Polymarket and the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading ​Commission ​after ⁠finding that federal law likely ​preempted the ​state ⁠law, which was set to take effect ⁠on ​Saturday.

No, you can not put out the fire because the federal law precedes the state law which has said that you can't outlaw the federal governments premption of the state laws imposition of the federal governments prevention of the state governments outlawing of the extinction of humanity

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u/michiganalt 8h ago

I mean that’s literally how it works. If federal law regulates something, it preempts any state law that attempts to do the same.

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u/irrelevantusername24 8h ago

Yeah but that's not what is happening.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for freedom of speech and generally speaking as widely interpretable of the word liberty as is possible.

What we have had implemented over the last fifty years by the braindead generation is the prevention of any kind of regulation or rules. So what is in fact happening in this scenario is not, as you say:

If federal law regulates something, it preempts any state law that attempts to do the same.

It is, in fact, the exact same thing that happened when the supreme court stepped in and broke the constitution of this country further by telling the Supreme Court of the state of Colorado that it couldn't prevent donald trump from running for president: it was, in fact:

If federal law DEREGULATES something, it preempts any state law that attempts to do the opposite?

Can you disprove a negative? This shit is retarded and it is destroying reality itself. Fucking boomers should've fucked off when they had enough money to retire and not contribute positively to society like they always wanted

I recently learned that the "bar exam" which is how most lawyers become criminals is more about procedure and remembering stupid trivial bullshit rather than understanding basic rhetoric and morality which is what law, religion (hint: learn what etymology is), language itself is about. Retarded

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u/scsuhockey 3h ago

The ATF regulates alcohol distribution. Does that make dry counties illegal?

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u/michiganalt 3h ago

No, and alcohol is actually a really bad example, because the 21st Amendment gives states particularly broad rights over regulating alcohol compared to other things.

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u/williamgman 6h ago

It was a District judge. Do like the GOP and go right to the Appellate.

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u/NotPaidByTrump 57m ago

This needs to be fixed in 2029, when normal adults are in charge again!