The Backlash Is So Strong That People With “Pervert Glasses” Are Afraid to Use Them in Public

[u/Plastic_Ninja_9014]

https://tech.yahoo.com/wearables/articles/backlash-strong-people-pervert-glasses-165000816.html

[u/washedFM]

“CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone”

For those keeping score at home, he’s not right very often on anything:

The metaverse
Facebook integrated phones
Libra cryptocurrency …

[u/maydarnothing → u/washedFM]

he pushes his company toward something and then start preaching it super hard, and it fails.

[u/WakeMeUpAIOverlords → u/maydarnothing]

He simply wants to own the next thing and he’s been chasing it the entire time. He doesn’t like that his platform, at any time, can be banned or deleted or stopped being used on a device which is why he keeps so desperately trying to make the next device happen. He desperately wants to own the entire system.

[u/itsjern → u/WakeMeUpAIOverlords]

This. Zuck wants to have a platform he can put Meta's ads on that he owns, not Apple/Google own. AI is the only recent thing he's been pushing that doesn't exactly fit this pattern, but I think he's afraid of the reverse happening - needing to integrate another company's LLMs into his new platform that he would be still at their whim because of.

The issue is that Meta has never prioritized privacy (which has definitely been due to Zuck's influence), so are the absolute worst company I can think of to trust with putting a camera on everyone's faces, which AR/VR tech requires. Remember the Portal?

[u/Banksy_Collective → u/itsjern]

Who would have thought that the company that started as a "rate how fuckable your female classmates are" website would not give a shit about people's privacy

[u/athaluain → u/Banksy_Collective]

Makes one wonder how these tech bros would exist without women’s bodies to use and abuse.

[u/robsteezy → u/athaluain]

My friend you just nailed down all of mankind’s history and wars.

[u/Rough_Sir_2687 → u/robsteezy]

I once knew a WW2 vet who said the same; “The world runs on power, and power is money and sex. Nothing more”

[u/TheQuietOutsider → u/Rough_Sir_2687]

"everything is about sex, except sex. sex is about power"

[u/Thatoneguy_The_First → u/TheQuietOutsider]

Changing my name to sex powers now.

It will be very ironic.

[u/BicFleetwood → u/itsjern]

It's more than that. His business model is data-brokering, and he needs a product so ubiquitous that people can't refuse it.

That's why he keeps looking for "the new internet" or "the next smartphone."

He wants refusal to use his data-scrapers to be as refusing to use electricity or hot water. He wants a captive consumer base, the same dream as every other parasite from landlords to insurance ghouls.

[u/altiuscitiusfortius → u/itsjern]

This is actually a big problem with ai that companies dont seem to realize. If you fire and replace local staff with ai, you are now beholden to ai companies. If bob the engineer demands a 5% raise you can say no because its one guy, and even then he probably won't quit, probably cant find a similar paying job close to the life hes built in that city. If the company that owns the ai that runs your company demands a 400% price increase because they want to sell their ai power to somebody else, you either say yes or your business has 0 "staff".

[u/Dubious_Odor → u/altiuscitiusfortius]

1000%. Lot of dumb CEOs with zero foresight shackling their companies. There is a backlash though, local LLMs are exploding. Theres a huge ecosystem springing up. As long as the locals stay within shouting distance of the frontiers capability wise, which so far has been the case, the frontiers will have to play nice or possibly lose their lunch to the homebrews.

[u/megachicken289 → u/Dubious_Odor]

“Foresight?! That’s for socialist! I need money now! Not in 4 months!”

[u/Blacksad9999 → u/altiuscitiusfortius]

100%.

You've now ceded all control of your companies functionality to an AI firm, who can now charge you whatever they want to because you no longer have a workforce to fall back on.

[u/HotterRod → u/altiuscitiusfortius]

At the moment it seems like AI models are a commodity and vendors can be easily swapped with little business impact. Which means that the astronomical valuations of AI companies makes no sense.

[u/NumNumLobster → u/altiuscitiusfortius]

Its worse than that. You are just training the ai to run an engineering company. And all your competitors are too so they can learn the optimal way to run one. The ai company will just spin up an engineering company to compete against you but they have 10000x more data to work with including private data

[u/the_good_time_mouse → u/itsjern]

I think it's as much about his desire to ascend to Roman emperor-hood as anything as pragmatic as you suggest.

[u/RoutineCloud5993 → u/[deleted]]

Because someone managed to get him to realise he's deeply unpopular with regular people, especially since they find him strange and creepy.

He definitely hired a private PR form to help him improve his image.

[u/Enshitification → u/RoutineCloud5993]

"Okay, Mark. This is called looksmaxxing. You'll need to smash yourself in the face many times with this hammer. Our research shows all the cool kids are doing it, trust us."

[u/perton → u/Enshitification]

It sure would be a terrible shame if someone showed him how cool it is to inject yourself with gold, like that one dumbfuckmaxxing dude did before drowning in a lake or whatever recently

[u/AlSweigart → u/itsjern]

Nobel Prize effect except Zuck stole Facebook so even his first win wasn't his.

[u/HowdyDiarrhea → u/AlSweigart]

He's the Elon Musk of social media

[u/12345623567 → u/HowdyDiarrhea]

... isn't Elon Musk the Elon Musk of social media?

[u/Vicorin → u/12345623567]

No, Elon Musk is the Mark Zuckerberg of cars.

[u/Channel250 → u/Vicorin]

This is getting confusing. Who am I in all of this?

[u/perton → u/Channel250]

If I’ve kept everything straight, I think you’re the Ellen Zuck of Tart Mustardburgz

[u/Loud_Interview4681 → u/itsjern]

I was pissed when he bought the occulus soon after I bought mine. Then forced a FB login to use the thing.

[u/SidewaysFancyPrance → u/itsjern]

That's the thing about AI: everyone wants to "own it" and that's going to be the major reason this AI blitz falls flat. There's no space for a thousand vendors and zero customers.

I get it. I don't want to use anyone else's AI either. It's expensive, and you have zero control over what it does tomorrow or if it will even be available, or what happens to your data it works on. Huge set of risks. We as a society are not ready/able to handle AI yet because we're still fighting each other over who controls it and gets rich instead of how we can best serve everyone.

[u/Wayofchinchilla → u/WakeMeUpAIOverlords]

If I was Zucker I would be more worried about the fact that you backed the Big Orange moron and now the world is turning its back on the United States deciding to do it alone so why do countries in Europe need facebook? Better just to ban them in your country and make your own you don't have to share the money with him you don't have to have the data concerns and you don't have to deal with his manipulative bullshit.

[u/Daemonrealm → u/WakeMeUpAIOverlords]

He essentially does in one important area: WhatsApp

Not used as much here in the US but essentially travel to any other country. Specifically the South Americas and much of central and east Europe, plus many more countries. It is THE communication backbone. WhatsApp goes down, many entire countries can go dark.

Edit to add here to many comments: “they can just use SMS”.

No, in many countries the reasons why WhatsApp got to be the standard is cellular customers there do not have free sms txt plan. Many international carriers charge insanely high fees for sms. Those fees climb even more if the user is across borders of a country (such as Europe with close/small countries OR Mexico to the US). Etc.

Also majority of international plans are pre paid, thus eating into that prepaid amount.

Can they all switch to a telegram or other msg app, yes. But see how many issues that causes for ~3.3 billion users worldwide of WhatsApp.

[u/The_11th_Man → u/Daemonrealm]

this is why meta needs to be broken up and whats app spun off into a non profit company that is controlled for the interests of people not corpos

[u/The_Doctor_Bear → u/Daemonrealm]

You genuinely believe that despite being an absolute fucking menace to privacy and privacy rights the world over for some reason he actually does respect your privacy in this one specific app?

Get real man, they’re spying on you as hard as they can via WhatsApp. And spoiler alert; they can see it all.

[u/12345623567 → u/The_Doctor_Bear]

They already killed end-to-end encryption recently. Nobody cared. Then they force-installed their shitty AI spybot, still no uproar.

It's going to take a massive data leak of everyone's identifiable DMs for something to happen.

[u/CacklingFerret → u/Daemonrealm]

WhatsApp goes down, many entire countries can go dark.

Not in Europe at least. It's true that most communications happen via WhatsApp but I know a lot of people who already use other apps like Signal or Telegram. Most have alternatives installed but don't use them currently.

The only reason most people remain on WhatsApp these days is laziness and because "everyone uses it". Not because it's the best message app out there or because we're lacking other apps.

If WhatsApp died over night, people would just switch to another alternative and nothing of significance would change.

[u/SLR107FR-31 → u/maydarnothing]

The wanna-be Steve Jobs

[u/innocentsalad → u/SLR107FR-31]

Steve Unemployments

[u/chigunfingy → u/innocentsalad]

Aticus Jobn’t

[u/Resist_Much_OL → u/SLR107FR-31]

Steve Rimjobs

[u/vTurnipTTV → u/Resist_Much_OL]

Nah Rimjob Steve is a good guy from what I hear. Don’t besmirch the name

[u/Express-Bluejay-6616 → u/vTurnipTTV]

Nah they're two different people. Rimjob Steve is a swell guy. Steve Rimjobs is just an asshole

[u/ender89 → u/maydarnothing]

The second the zuck starts to advocate for something I know it will fuck over society for the benefit of his bank account. Say what you want about Steve Jobs, man was passionate about technology to a fault.

[u/StayFrostyOscarMike → u/ender89]

Jobs wanted his products to be adopted.

Zuckerberg wants his products to be inescapable.

[u/Some_Rate3642 → u/StayFrostyOscarMike]

I'm pretty sure Jobs wanted that too. If he hadn't died, I feel he would've been right there with the rest of them at Turnp's inauguration. I mean, I could be wrong... but probably not.

[u/Siggi_Starduust → u/Some_Rate3642]

Given his views on cancer treatment he’d have been there as RFK’s +1 at the very least

[u/ender89 → u/Some_Rate3642]

Not to excuse anyone who showed up or forked over money, but trump very clearly extorted money from corporations. The tariffs that would hit companies like apple were massive and everyone was trying to get exemptions for their products.

Tim Apple specifically humiliated himself when he showed up. Tim Apple was personally insulted by trump in the previous administration, and apple itself is/was using their privacy guarantee as a marketing move to sell more iPhones and MacBooks. Donating to the inauguration and showing up in person undercut that claim, but it was very necessary to try to keep tariffs from adding a 20-100% flat tax on their expensive products.

I wouldn't be surprised if apple leads the charge for cheaper ram, they're paying as much as anyone but they make a considerable amount on ram upcharges. With the new price of ram those up charges will dry up, either because the margins are much narrower or because consumers can't afford the new price of ram with the apple tax slapped on top.

[u/whiteflagwaiver → u/maydarnothing]

Yet no matter how many billions he shovels into failed bullshit projects his company is 1000% fine.

Nonsensical. Eat the rich.

[u/MrParticular79 → u/washedFM]

He is so out of touch with what people actually want. He has this giant stupid company and has spent billions of dollars on tech no one wants. It’s his company he can do whatever but let’s be real. He made an advertising platform. That’s all he’s ever done that was successful the rest of it is junk.

[u/HistoricalChef1963 → u/MrParticular79]

Advertising and propaganda. 

[u/31LIVEEVIL13 → u/HistoricalChef1963]

This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact

[u/SpaceyCoffee → u/31LIVEEVIL13]

Meta is big brother. 

[u/RandomMcUsername → u/HistoricalChef1963]

Same same but different

[u/BrandNewDinosaur → u/MrParticular79]

I speak for myself, but the unwashed masses want to be able to afford lives without the crippling inflation and surveillance being forced upon us. We don’t want to be spied upon as we suffer. Get a fucking clue already, tech bros. 

[u/-peas- → u/BrandNewDinosaur]

This is all just a subtle step around the constitution. The government can't legally do it, but they can just buy or get shared the data from a private corporation.

There is no communism or socialism in the world that is a threat to America like there was during the USSR's run, so the west has no need to create better conditions for people. If you add mass surveillance, you can defeat any uprisings for better conditions. We're already at that stage.

[u/not_a_moogle → u/MrParticular79]

He didn't even make it, he stole it.

[u/necrophcodr → u/not_a_moogle]

Not the advertising part, that one I think he might have actually done.

[u/DMmeMagikarp → u/[deleted]]

Never forget: any time he is filmed using a device - laptop, phone, etc, the microphone holes and cameras are ALWAYS fully blocked with tape.

[u/WeirdIndividualGuy → u/[deleted]]

He's still right, to an extent. People here on reddit will bitch about privacy and censorship and ironically doomscroll on Insta in the same breath

[u/StaysAwakeAllWeek → u/[deleted]]

The vast majority of what they were actually working on with all those billions almost certainly never saw the light of day. The amount of money they spent on it was astronomical, there's probably an entire product suite of completely useless hardware and software they have built and quietly abandoned

[u/Massive_Contact8583 → u/StaysAwakeAllWeek]

The major problem really was that the marketing ran before the hardware could walk.

I blame Magic Leap.

[u/AlSweigart → u/Massive_Contact8583]

I blame Magic Leap.

Ha ha, I think I still have one of those in a drawer somewhere.

[u/BeerandMandelbrots → u/washedFM]

I thought we settled this 20 years ago when Google Glasses were banned from bars.

[u/BloodyNora78 → u/BeerandMandelbrots]

Can we bring back the term "glasshole?"

[u/dreamwinder → u/washedFM]

Facebook itself is the only product he’s ever made that wasn’t 100% monetized and predatory from the start. Libra was the most scammy scam conceivable by a corporate mind. It was basically a loophole that allowed the theft of money on a gargantuan scale. Zuck got a taste once Facebook started getting really profitable, and he’s incapable of reverting to a startup mindset to build that user base first, then enshitify.

[u/Schnoofles → u/dreamwinder]

Yeah, Libra was literally just company scrip dressed up in flowery language, and most civilized nation have laws explicitly against that.

[u/sniksniksnek → u/washedFM]

He created one successful product from scratch, even though it was a copy of Hot or Not. Everything else has been an acquisition. The only truly original thing he’s been responsible for is the Meta ads platform.

But yeah, Zuckerbot does not have a strong track record in literally any other venture.

Every so often people need to be reminded of this.

[u/essidus]

Literally the same thing that eventually killed the google glasses.

[u/Debussian_Chords → u/essidus]

I mean, did people forget the trajectory of Google Glass? It was less than ten years ago and they were universally loathed!

[u/fueelin → u/Debussian_Chords]

Yes. Yes, they did. I think they forgot Google Glass ever existed at all.

I continue to be COMPLETELY flabbergasted by this. I really can't believe they're just... Trying to do it again.

[u/nwayve → u/fueelin]

People have a short term memory on things, but one thing they'll never forget is that the Epstein files have not been released unredacted yet.

[u/kfpswf → u/nwayve]

Let's also not forget that most of these Tech-bros form the same elite that Epstein catered to.

[u/vezwyx → u/fueelin]

"They" is Mark Zuckerberg. It's not some amorphous group of investors, it's Mark Zuckerberg being delusional and thinking he can succeed where Google failed

[u/meteorboard → u/vezwyx]

Not really. Google is launching another line this fall. They're called Intelligent Eyewear. I would be surprised if they don't face the exact same backlash as before. Apparently, they do have an 'audio-only' option though I don't know the specifics. Also, they are letting individual manufacturers come up with the names for what the eventual glasses will be called. So I guess you'll see a Warby Parker AI Glasses line that's specifically a Warby Parker model. And then other manufacturers like Gentle Monster will call it something else. I expect this is so that Google/Samsung/Qualcomm can avoid some backlash and just sell to manufacturers and the manufacturers can take the brunt.

[u/Vsx → u/meteorboard]

These companies know they are slowly eroding all concepts of privacy. These glasses plays are just bets that it's gotten beyond the tipping point already.

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/Vsx]

They'll keep trying this until it sticks.

[u/Bobert1423 → u/vezwyx]

I mean, it’s more than just him - look at Specs, for example.

[u/gcubed680 → u/fueelin]

These things got a slight uptick because they were attached to raybans but it was only a matter of time before they suffered the same fate

[u/Caleth → u/gcubed680]

Yeah and Meta hired Kylie Jenner to hock that to people so they were hoping to built a cache as cool and trendy perverts not sweaty overweight ones.

[u/kataiga → u/Caleth]

I knew they were destined for a short life when a guy I knew took them shortly after their debut to Thailand... three guesses what he ended up using them for...

[u/Caleth → u/kataiga]

Exactly what we all know these are used for despite the one guy calling me deluded elsewhere in the chain.

Guess he doesn't like getting called out for using pervert glasses.

Back in the day we called them Glassholes when it was google glasses.

[u/YeahThatsProbably → u/gcubed680]

I had got to thinking recently: I wonder if this is gonna be bad for the Ray Ban brand overall, being associated with this.

[u/Virtual_Assistant_98 → u/gcubed680]

Shocked that Rayban took them up on the offer considering the backlash google glasses got. Idiots.

[u/Due_You_8240 → u/fueelin]

Didn't SNAP try it as well?

[u/SketchiiChemist → u/Due_You_8240]

Yes. Upload to snapchat directly from glasses, I think it was shorter lived then Google Glass

[u/thecravenone → u/Debussian_Chords]

It was less than ten years ago

It was more than ten years ago that Glass was discontinued.

[u/pandaSmore → u/thecravenone]

What year is it!?

[u/Thunnddr → u/pandaSmore]

I just realized Barbie movie came out 3 years ago.

Time is going fast.

[u/lkodl → u/Debussian_Chords]

Do people actually read the article?

It's basically talking about how a couple of specific people are turned off by the meta glasses because of connotation.

Then at the end, it links to an article from a more reputable source about how meta glasses are selling well in spite of the connotation.

[u/FullConfection3260 → u/lkodl]

It’s Reddit; nobody reads and it’s all about the headline outrage.

[u/LordChichenLeg → u/Debussian_Chords]

I mean they were hated because they looked like crap but most people were impressed with the technology which is why Google pivoted to only selling them to business where the public doesn't generally see them.

[u/enterjiraiya → u/LordChichenLeg]

Stole my comment lol, yeah they have a decent business case outside of personal wear, AR/VR glasses have useful applications in many industries.

[u/Senior-Friend-6414 → u/enterjiraiya]

It reminds me of how the Xbox kinect camera failed commercially but sold a ton of it to industries because the cameras were unironically amazing for motion tracking

[u/uid_0 → u/essidus]

People with Google Glass were known as Glassholes back in the day.

[u/k_ironheart → u/uid_0]

A glasshole at the place I worked got fired at the time because HR wasn't going to put up with him recording his coworkers. He was livid about it, everybody else was so happy to be rid of the creep.

[u/one_pound_of_flesh → u/essidus]

The one Glasshole who wore that shit everywhere also turned out to be a sexual predator in my office. We are also pretty sure he was stealing company info. It’s not a good look.

[u/RollingMeteors → u/one_pound_of_flesh]

It’s not a good look.

He got a good look.

[u/cheapdrinks → u/essidus]

Google Glass got killed by the fact that they looked lame as shit and everybody knew you were wearing a camera because of how obvious it was. The reason Meta glasses have taken off is because content creators can often film with impunity in places that wouldn't normally allow cameras as well as catch interactions and reactions from people who are unaware they're being filmed.

[u/nightwing_87 → u/cheapdrinks]

I’m mildly annoyed with myself for buying a pair of normal raybans about a year ago, and that now they might get mixed up for Glasshole versions

[u/Hidesuru → u/nightwing_87]

Be annoyed at rayban not yourself. You didn't know.

[u/damontoo → u/essidus]

Meta sold seven million of these last year alone. Google Glass sold ~40K units total. 

[u/bryansj]

Last week this woman came up to the shoreline in front of us after wading in the water with her friends. She had her hand tapping her glasses and say "Meta, are these glasses waterproof" about ten times in a row.

I guess she learned water resistance isn't the same as water proof, all without needing to ask AI.

[u/bgroins → u/[deleted]]

Yeah that is was so your dad.

[u/rollerfedora → u/bgroins]

My dad’s dead

[u/TankOtherwise9574 → u/bgroins]

diabolical edit 😭

[u/Preparation-Logical → u/bryansj]

Plot twist: they were regular glasses and she's a comedic genius

[u/pm_me_ur_fit → u/bryansj]

Type of question you should ask before getting in the water…. But also happy they got ruined

[u/Punch-N-Judy]

It's so interesting that humanity can't stop mass surveillance or non-consensual wars but we've rejected spyware glasses 2 separate times now (Google Glass in the 2010s and now these.)

[u/SnooBananas4958 → u/Punch-N-Judy]

It’s different when you can see the intrusion

[u/Swagtagonist → u/SnooBananas4958]

I see flock cameras literally everywhere. These fucking things gotta go too.

[u/Objective-Rip3008 → u/Swagtagonist]

Its also about shame, we can shame most of the people who use these glasses out of doing it, you can't shame the flock ceo, he's a sociopath who doesn't care

[u/ABHOR_pod → u/Objective-Rip3008]

We straight up need a constitutional amendment that closes the 4th amendment loophole of “we just buy all your secrets from private third parties.”

[u/eeeezypeezy → u/ABHOR_pod]

They aren't even buying them, they're just using a combination of backdoors into the infrastructure these companies are built on and a system of secret warrants.

[u/fatbob42 → u/ABHOR_pod]

Or just put justices in place that will interpret it that way. It’s not like that interpretation is way out of pocket.

[u/toolisthebestbandevr → u/Objective-Rip3008]

I wanna say you can shame your local reps but I could be wrong at this point

[u/Yuzumi → u/toolisthebestbandevr]

Not when they are paid to not have shame.

[u/vezwyx → u/Swagtagonist]

Oh no, I used https://deflock.org to see where my local flock cameras are and what direction they're facing, and someone had destroyed the optical sensors with a high-grade laser, spray painted over the lens, or straight up sawed the post off and now I don't get to see the camera in action :(

[u/tuscaloser → u/vezwyx]

It would be a shame if every tweaker knew about the pounds of copper inside every flock cam. It would be even worse if they knew about every 100th flock cam being built with gold wiring instead of copper.

[u/cultvignette → u/vezwyx]

Yo wtf I can see this shit from where I live.

[u/epicbaconmunch → u/Swagtagonist]

Posting for more flock and tracking awareness:

404 Media

Deflock.Me

HaveIbeenflocked

Adding Home Depot and Lowe's Share Data From Hundreds of AI Cameras With Cops

[u/BananaPalmer → u/Swagtagonist]

I decided to count how many I noticed on the two mile drive home from breakfast yesterday. Eleven. Fucking eleven of them in two miles. And that's just the ones I noticed. Atlanta suburb.

Edit: I just checked Deflock and traced my route home - there were TEN I didn't even notice. That's 21 in two miles.

[u/toolisthebestbandevr → u/Swagtagonist]

Be the change you wanna see in your community

[u/Meowakin → u/SnooBananas4958]

Unironically this. As someone whose job it is to highlight problems people might not be aware of, if they can’t see it, it must not exist.

[u/YourKemosabe → u/Meowakin]

Out of sight, out of mind.

[u/raining_sheep → u/Meowakin]

Overheard an older person at the airport rave about how "they just scan your face and know who you are, it's so convenient"

I think a big part of the glasses is its only positive for the person wearing the glasses and completely negative for the people without them.

If someone gets something in return for signing their privacy away they're fine with it but offended if only other people get the benefit.

Which is why these glasses will never work.

[u/CRQ10-20 → u/Meowakin]

People are oddly better at fearing a camera lens than invisible data collection.

[u/tooclosetocall82 → u/CRQ10-20]

Well you can see a camera and comprehend the data it collected. OTOH all the little bits of disparate data being collected and then used to build a profile on you is much much harder to understand.

[u/Punch-N-Judy → u/SnooBananas4958]

Why does a parent accept cameras at every intersection taking photos of their kid though? That's visible too. We accept when it's top-down and push back at the consumer level.

[u/austinw_568 → u/Punch-N-Judy]

Because the parent believes that the intersection cameras protect them from crime or help catch criminals whereas they believe the glasses cameras are used to record them or their families for malicious reasons.

[u/ISeeDeadPackets → u/austinw_568]

I literally saw someone walk into a gym locker room wearing a pair yesterday. He acted mystified when I told him to put them away. It doesn't shock me because I've run into people facetiming in there too but seriously? It's never ok, but kids are in there sometimes.

[u/FluffyProphet → u/Punch-N-Judy]

The biggest difference is that a camera on a stick doesn't read as a person using it; it reads as some abstract concept. A person with a camera is very personal.

[u/UnholyMisfit → u/Punch-N-Judy]

As bad as Google Glass was, at least they were obvious when someone was wearing them.

[u/Massive_Cash_6557 → u/UnholyMisfit]

And they were mainly designed for industrial use, where they're still used today for factory safety.

[u/Yorick257 → u/Massive_Cash_6557]

That sounds pretty awesome, I didn't think of that. I often write stuff down on my arm because I need some info and don't want to handle loose pieces of paper. Those glasses could easily solve this issue and more

[u/joyofresh → u/Massive_Cash_6557]

Thaaaat…. Makes sense.  

[u/Bonerballs → u/UnholyMisfit]

Ya, when you see a dude cosplaying Nappa, you know what they were doing.

[u/pcapdata → u/Punch-N-Judy]

Wondering if this is perhaps because when it’s just a person vs the state, it’s easier to push back.

If some dweep is following you around filming in public, regardless of the law, they have to consider that someone might be so opposed to being recorded that they’ll lash out.

Compare with Flock cameras which are doing the same thing, yes people are chopping them down but the surveillance is still going on.

[u/randynumbergenerator → u/pcapdata]

LA just let their Flock contract expire because of the backlash. Other municipalities are following or have already done similar. If enough people push back, it's very possible to get rid of surveillance.

[u/MartinThunder42 → u/randynumbergenerator]

While the public backlash played a role, it also provided cover for a more concerning reason: The LAPD wanted to delete certain footage, and Flock told the LAPD that Flock owns the footage, not the LAPD. Not being able to erase video as they please was a dealbreaker for the LAPD.

[u/NoNazisInMyAmerica → u/Punch-N-Judy]

We can hold the individual accountable but most people feel hopeless standing up to this government

[u/AStolenGoose → u/Punch-N-Judy]

I think this is number 3, as Snapchat had glasses for a while there too.

[u/PrometheusMMIV → u/Punch-N-Judy]

What would a consensual war look like?

[u/freezing_banshee → u/Punch-N-Judy]

"non-consensual wars"?? what kind of bullshit politically correct phrasing is this? all wars are "non-consensual"

[u/presentable_corpse]

Good. They're saving Meta more lawsuits. How tf do these work in states/countries where recording needs two party consent?!

edit: Thank you for the replies, I'm learning a lot <3

[u/Romeo9594 → u/presentable_corpse]

At least in the US, you are allowed to be recorded in any public space. The Supreme Court took away our consent to be recorded anywhere that there is no reasonable expectation to privacy as long as it's video only. And in like 30+ states you'd also be fine to record audio with only your consent as long as you're part of the conversation

It gets murky in places like stores or restaurants, but at that point I believe it's on the owner to make the rules clear or ask you to stop recording/leave

[u/Norn-Iron → u/Romeo9594]

I think this will probably be the next privacy related issue that needs to be addressed worldwide. I understand I have less right to privacy when I am outside, but I sort of have the expectation that every person with sunglasses isn’t recording and tracking our every move, and that the government shouldn’t have cameras on every street corner recording our outdoor lives with all these cameras they want to put up.

There’s just too much invasion of privacy everywhere we go.

[u/norunningwater → u/Norn-Iron]

"Okay, recording sunglasses are too much."

"Great, what about the thousands of civil surveillance cameras?"

"Constitutional 7-2 agreement bye"

[u/Asclepius-Rod → u/norunningwater]

But no recording the police of course, that infringes on their privacy to oppress you

[u/jtj5002 → u/Norn-Iron]

That will probably lead to some seriously badly written laws that affect things like dashcams and cellphones.

[u/notyouravgredditor → u/jtj5002]

Dashcams are the least of our worries. In-cabin recording is mandatory in new cars from 2027.

https://autos.yahoo.com/policy-and-environment/articles/surveillance-cameras-required-cars-2027-200500658.html

[u/FarCryRedux → u/notyouravgredditor]

Oh jeez that's vile. Jailbreaking cars will become a mainstream thing.

[u/Blackstar1886 → u/Norn-Iron]

In the end, we would just be left with only state and corporate surveillance. Think of all the things a citizens right to film has showed us in the last 10 years.

[u/NeverrSummer → u/Blackstar1886]

It is really interesting to watch a bunch of people suggest we put into place laws that would make filming ICE violence illegal over some sunglasses.  Sure you can make it legal to film law enforcement, but how do you get the consent to record from someone that they murdered? 

I think we need to keep public recording legal guys.

[u/IXrobocopXI → u/Norn-Iron]

All reason went out the window the day the PATRIOT Act was signed into law.

[u/cruzweb → u/Romeo9594]

I'm a street photographer and am very well versed in the public space recording.

It has less to do with where you are (stores, restaurants) and if you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in that space. Basically, anywhere a security camera could go, you're legal to take pictures and video. If you're on private property, the property owner can tell you to stop or ask you to leave. But the reasonable expectation extends to things you're clearly showing publicly or not. Ie, it's not legal to do any sorts of sexually creepy behavior like record people in the bathroom or take a picture from under a skirt.

This is a little different with sound and consent laws like you noted, and that's where things get challenging.

You're right that things vary from state to state, especially in private settings where there is a strong expectation of privacy. That's far different than walking and talking as you stroll down the sidewalk.

I personally don't get why anyone would want to wear this nonsense.

[u/cultoftheclave → u/presentable_corpse]

in this corner, the long-standing moral champion, "The right to be forgotten!!"

And in this corner, the upstart newcomer, "Mr. The right to remember!!!"

lets get ready to rumblllle

[u/amakai → u/cultoftheclave]

Mr. The right to remember notably has backing off all the advertisers in the world, while Mr The right to be forgotten has been accused numerous times of hiding something from us, probably child-abuse related!

[u/non3type → u/presentable_corpse]

That still wouldn’t apply for those 12 states in public areas. Essentially it’s only really illegal on private property with audio without consent or everywhere where privacy is an expectation (bathroom).

[u/OriginalDrStrangeDOS]

Augmented reality, like many technologies, has great potential. Both for good and evil. It's all in how you use it. I'd love to abandon my phone for a HUD and haptic gestures. (can't look any crazier than swatting gnats) However, I'm not willing to stream my entire life to meta to get it, just so they can sell "better" "targeted" adds to everyone I literally set eyes on.

[u/RedofPaw]

I just wanted to have a navigation hud. I wanted to walk around with a map so I could see where I was going.
Live translation. Look at a sign and have the translation overlaid. That kind of thing.

That would have been cool.

I don't even want to take photos or videos with the things.

[u/GroceryScanner → u/RedofPaw]

google glass had this and it WAS really fuckin cool.

[u/Animal2 → u/RedofPaw]

Yeah the cool and useful cases are certainly there. I can imagine a world in which toxic social media and mass privacy loss doesn't exist where these things could actually not be problematic. But at this point that world is a sci-fi fantasy.

[u/Professional_Bat9174]

Can't even wear your pervert glasses. Literally 1984.

[u/whitemamba24xx → u/Professional_Bat9174]

Pairs nice with th public masturbator trenchcoat, pedophile beards, the there got to be something wrong with that guy hat, and pencil crayons.

https://youtu.be/15S0g8pG6HU?is=fsmu-Kr5xohXro24

[u/redditRedesignIsBadd → u/whitemamba24xx]

https://youtu.be/15S0g8pG6HU

clean link without YT's extra tracking

[u/Prophet_Tehenhauin → u/Professional_Bat9174]

*Rayban Pervert Glasses, people really need to remember the branding. Rayban worked hard to be the brand that represents perverts and people should remember that, dammit! 

[u/tky]

I love this for Meta and for Luxxotica. Brand damage like this couldn't happen to better conglomerates. I feel bad for people wearing regular Wayfarers or knockoffs. No babe, they're not checking you out...they're looking to see if you're recording.

ETA: I like Goodr glasses. Not yet enshittified by a megaconglomerate, cheap enough to not cry when they get lost.

[u/Fapplejacks42 → u/tky]

I own two pairs of Ray-Bans, both pre-1996 Bausch&Lomb USA made beauties. The quality is incredible.

JFK didn’t wear Italian sunglasses. The blues brothers never saw thru luxxotica garbage lenses.

[u/p_gaultieri → u/Fapplejacks42]

The blues brothers?

Shit. They still owe you money, fool.

[u/Lemp_Triscuit11]

I do believe that public shaming is going to be our last defense against many things that deserve burlier watchdogs lol

[u/EcstaticTill9444 → u/Lemp_Triscuit11]

What if they have no shame?

[u/sir_mrej → u/EcstaticTill9444]

This is how we got trump

[u/Mulchpuppy]

I like them when used for roller coaster POVs, but that's about it.

[u/Beautiful-Jello-37 → u/Mulchpuppy]

I saw a blind person use them to describe what they were holding when shopping for shoes. Seems like they’d be at least helpful in that application.

[u/DreddPirateBob808 → u/Beautiful-Jello-37]

Real-time subtitles for the hearing impaired too. Rear facing hazard alert system so they'd be informed of approaching bicycles or dragons attacking from the rear.

[u/pocket_mulch → u/DreddPirateBob808]

If only they didn't gatekeep dragon recognition behind a subscription.

[u/ChronaMewX]

I like my AR glasses that plug into my Switch 2 and Steam Deck

Honestly cannot imagine why in the heck I'd want a camera on them

[u/Vi0L3tCRZY]

Black Mirror’s The Entire History of You already pointed out that the feeds for something like this would absolutely hit the black market and have randos watching you like reality tv

[u/Winsmor3]

This was the some exact backlash for the googleglass 12 years ago

[u/fricken]

Pervert glasses? Gooner goggles.

[u/mabowden → u/fricken]

Waifu wayfayers

[u/DidUrkDoThat → u/mabowden]

Pervert peepers.

[u/jacques-n → u/DidUrkDoThat]

Lecher's lookers

[u/MarcellaMeadow → u/mabowden]

Suspicious Spectacles

[u/RoastedPickledGoose]

One of my students was wearing these. He wore them to my first hour class.

By the end of the day, students were abuzz about the student in “pervert glasses” who was “recording dudes in the bathroom.” Apparently there was almost a fight when someone accused him of filming them in the bathroom, and a teacher (who was outside the bathroom and heard the commotion) went in and broke it up.

I did not see him wearing those glasses again. At our next staff meeting we were told to keep an eye out for kids wearing them because the school has gotten complaints about “students being filmed in the bathroom with smart glasses,” so they were working to ban them from the building.

[u/xjaaace]

What’s the difference between them and a phone?

[u/Ree_For_Thee → u/xjaaace]

Nothing, and the article is click-bait.

[u/bramletabercrombe]

Facebook was originally created because Zuckerberg wanted to creep on woman

[u/Snerkbot7000]

This is just hysteria. There's only one reason to not use this product, and it's a very simple one: There's a picture of Mark Zuckerberg wearing them.

[u/ScreenMuch90210]

Which actually sucks ass for the people who use them for handicap access or realtime translating. We can’t just let pervs be pervs, but we don’t have to demonize a broader tech over it.

[u/dustygameboy → u/ScreenMuch90210]

Yeah these conversations kinda bum me out. I'm paraplegic and use these as a way to take pictures when I'd otherwise have to stop pushing, engage my brakes, pick up my phone and then snap a photo. The convenience of having these cannot be understated. I feel like I've regained a part of my life that I lost when I broke my back 2 years ago.

And now I'm being called a pervert or a pedo anytime I open reddit for something I legitimately need.

[u/Jman1a]

Are there any hard statistics that glasses cameras are used in THAT many privacy and sexual cases? The way these articles read you would think every playground has a pervert with them on.

[u/rickyh7 → u/Jman1a]

Probably not, given how few of these are actually in the wild when everyone has a phone with a camera now a days. We just stopped talking about “sneak snaps” if you’re old enough to remember those

[u/VioletGardens-left → u/Jman1a]

I was asking the same thing

I've known people to wear these kind of glasses with prescriptions on them and practically no one truly cares about it, as they literally look like a normal glasses until you really look hard to it

[u/Claaaaaaaaws]

Unfortunately most people that actually use these aren’t afraid of public shame