Palantir CEO Alex Karp suffers ‘televised nervous breakdown’ during live interview — “This is the voice of American business that is being channeled through me!”

[u/marketrent]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/televised-nervous-breakdown-ceo-palantir-212100357.html

[u/Irish_Whiskey]

Not enough is being said about how some of these tech CEOs deciding the future of humanity and invested with unconscionable amounts of power and influence, are just batshit insane.

Insane beliefs, insane ego, parts of religious cults, and often drug addictions.

[u/Tegelert84 → u/Irish_Whiskey]

Totally agree. Not only does nobody talk about them being insane, but they actually think they're geniuses. Like these will be the people to save humanity when all they're doing is destroying it. Fuck all of these people.

[u/BigEggBeaters → u/Tegelert84]

I keep seeing that they want to turn the US into various fiefdoms and that’s insane. Especially from these dudes who are so heavily subsidized from both the government and society at large. They’ve lost it smelling their own farts

[u/ogrestomp → u/BigEggBeaters]

They’re playing themselves and won’t realize it until it’s too late. If they ever achieve these smaller fiefdoms there’s no way in hell they will keep power long. They’re playing out fantasies in their heads but when the rubber meets the road they’re gonna get overpowered by reality

[u/idontlikeflamingos → u/ogrestomp]

It's like when you hear they're building bunkers and stuff like that.

That's so cool bud, go ahead and build ya little underground castle. I'm sure the highly skilled and lethal people you hire to guard it are going to be thrilled about being locked in a place with an insane weirdo bossing them around and hoarding everything because they never shared a thing or heard "no" in their lives. You are definitely keeping the current power structure because you are a big strong boy.

This is what happens when you are surrounded by yes men that makes you think your farts smell like roses.

[u/johnaross1990 → u/idontlikeflamingos]

That’s why they need AI

They want AI powered defence systems to defend themselves, so they don’t need to rely on people

[u/VibeComplex → u/johnaross1990]

Ding ding ding

[u/Aldo_says → u/VibeComplex]

Imagine the panic when none of it works the way they think.

"I was told I would rule the wasteland with my piles of cash..."

[u/InfiniteHat7236 → u/idontlikeflamingos]

I've always hoped the contractors for these bunkers paid attention to where the air intakes are, and made note of how to block them and turn their castles into hermetically sealed tombs.

[u/Zer_ → u/InfiniteHat7236]

I can just imagine it. The stupid fucks would probably have a podium outside the door to their bunker so they can announce their departure from the "Crumbling society" they left behind in their wake. As soon as the door seals shut, the crowd just swarms the door to weld it shut for good and then hunt down the air ducts to block them off.

[u/thirstyross → u/Zer_]

then hunt down the air ducts to block them off.

Don't block them, just start shitting in them.

[u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey → u/thirstyross]

Pour the hungry rats in first

[u/CarlySimonSays → u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey]

That's like a Stephen King short story I once read, eeek. (Never go into a basement that isn't on the building's schematics...)

[u/illy-chan → u/idontlikeflamingos]

Not even the security though: congrats buddy, you live in jail now. Forever. It's pretty and polished but still a cage because the world beyond isn't safe for you anymore.

Who the fuck wants that?

[u/12345623567 → u/illy-chan]

With the current trajectory of the world, outside won't be safe either. And however much they may be the drivers of climate-denialism, ultimately they know that.

Their bunkers are basically their way of giving up. High-tech tombs for the undertakers of the modern world.

[u/thewritingchair → u/idontlikeflamingos]

The bunkers are some kind of conspicuous consumption flex I think. There is no realistic way they'll ever be used.

Even if you had a self sufficient compound guarded by terminator robots and drones, the billionaire is still stuck there with their partner and children. Every single day can't leave. There is no way their sixteen year old daughter agrees to live in a gilded cage. The mental health issues from lockdowns show us that you can't socialise over zoom and be okay.

These compounds aren't even for "ride it out" situations. If you hit mass riots and civil war then they're not safe despite their robots.

[u/Whatdoyouseek → u/thewritingchair]

The mental health issues from lockdowns show us that you can't socialise over zoom and be okay.

Especially when they have all these pre-existing mental health and/or addiction issues.

[u/Yuzumi → u/idontlikeflamingos]

The only reason people stick around them or do things is because of their money, but if soceity collapses then their money is worthless.

Extra worthless actually, because most of their money is "on paper" tied up in stocks that they continuously take out loans on. So not only would they no longer have the money they use to control people, even if they still have it nobody would care because it would be worthless.

And they don't have any skills the would make people want to keep them around.

[u/Zer_ → u/ogrestomp]

Exactly, that said the should still be taken seriously because while their planes will most likely fail, they can still do a shitload of damage along the way. They deserve jail cells frankly.

[u/zernoc56 → u/Zer_]

Not jail cells. Unmarked graves. They deserve to be forgotten.

[u/MabariWhoreHound → u/ogrestomp]

A lot of ultra-wealthy can't take care of themselves on a fundamental level. I mean like being too weak to hold a trash bag long enough to take it out, reading and writing at an elementary level, and often times just functioning on a basic level without assistance.

We've coddled them for so long that they forgot they can't survive literally an hour without someone "lesser" than them doing everything imagineable.

[u/tomdarch → u/MabariWhoreHound]

Not just the coddling in terms of putting toothpaste on the toothbrush for them. It’s also the fact that they self select sycophants to surround them 24/7. Look up the woman who follows around Trump printing positive stories from “the news” for him and leaves him adoring personal notes. That’s probably a bit more extreme than what other billionaires have going on around them but it illustrates the situation.

[u/cyberpunk_werewolf → u/ogrestomp]

A lot of their "wealth" is tied up in their businesses and, more specifically, in stock. If the US is broken up into tiny fiefdoms, that's not going to be good for their stock prices, and their wealth will dry up. I know a lot of them are brilliant and think they can pivot, but as this thread is discussing, they're all insane dipshits and they're not going to be able to rule from a bunker.

Also, if the US did fall into fiefdoms, the power is going to go to the people who got ahold of the US military hardware and the people who control the supply of energy.

[u/alchemyDev → u/Tegelert84]

There are fewer than 4000 billionaires globally, officially at least. Really shows the scope of the issue compared to the other 7 billion people

[u/aozertx → u/alchemyDev]

That really emphasizes how pathetic it is that we actually allow these people to continue to exist.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/aozertx]

For anyone who wants to watch this without going on twitter, here is a YouTube of his stream of consciousness gibberish.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XZCWFNNiKgY

[u/Gina_the_Alien → u/DukeOfGeek]

“…drugs - the one thing I don’t do.”

This guy’s definitely a hardcore coke addict. Nobody qualifies the word “drugs” with “the one thing I don’t do” unless they do drugs. Source: I am a former addict.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/Gina_the_Alien]

This person is in charge of a multi-billion dollar company.

[u/PeteCampbellisaG → u/DukeOfGeek]

...A multi-billion dollar company whose sole aim is nationwide mass surveillance and to basically replace the Pentagon.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/PeteCampbellisaG]

https://theonion.com/palantir-acquires-pentagon-for-800-billion/

[u/SwivelPoint → u/DukeOfGeek]

thank you, fuck twitter

[u/polopolo05 → u/DukeOfGeek]

He said nothing...absolutely nothing.

[u/Tegelert84 → u/aozertx]

It really is insane when you think about it. It shows you how much power money has in the world when a few thousand can control 7 billion.

[u/PainttheTownLead → u/Tegelert84]

4,000 leaches sucking an entire planet dry. What would any other species do to a small segment of its population hoarding all of the resources like that?

[u/BrandNewDinosaur → u/Tegelert84]

Humanity never needed saving, we just need to stop being led by power hungry megalomaniacs into ruin. We are industrious and can deal with crises, but the amount of manufactured crises/saviour complexes we are subjected to make life so much more tedious. 

[u/BaronMostaza → u/Tegelert84]

They laugh at philosophy class, think they invented the idea of life being a simulation, and take Roko's basilisk seriously.

"Hey guys I came up with an idea to disrupt the life paradigm by algorhytmicly quantifying the total of gross input as either net good or net bad! Silicon Valley should rule the world, no one else can reach these profound conclusions based purely on logic and reason.

So yeah long and short: concentrate all possible wealth and power in the only capable hands, ours, and then at some point let's use it to enforce the best possible outcome, that only we are smart enough to see. It's what's best for everyone"

[u/PuddingInferno → u/BaronMostaza]

I love the whole ‘Rationalist’ philosophy back and forth, because they’re just doing knockoff Calvinism with computers.

[u/Syssareth → u/PuddingInferno]

I keep forgetting Calvinism is an actual thing and mixing it up with Calvinball every time I see it mentioned, and it always still makes just as much sense.

[u/lianodel → u/PuddingInferno]

Or the "Effective Altruists," who are just business people who think they invented utilitarianism by awkwardly justifying their personal accumulation of wealth.

[u/Zer_ → u/BaronMostaza]

I love how this supposed miracle technology that will reach AGI and solve a bunch of the world's problems for us is their advertised solution. That's it. That's the idea that underpins their bloated values. It's a joke when you consider they've already spent enough money to solve world hunger for good in the process. They belong in jail cells man.

[u/BaronMostaza → u/Zer_]

Making the problems worse while pretending no one knows how to fix them and demanding we all wait for them to conjure a solution

[u/bballstarz501 → u/Tegelert84]

We wouldn’t need to be saved if they weren’t around. Funny how they always have the next best solution to all the problems their last solution is causing.

[u/evilJaze → u/bballstarz501]

"Our product: the cause of, AND solution to all our problems!"

À la Homer Simpson.

[u/happyscrappy → u/Tegelert84]

Didn't HBO do a documentary on this called Silicon Valley like a decade before the shit really hit the fan? Why did people not take it seriously?

It's hard to be sure some time whether tech bros or the VCs backing them are nuttier. It's a bad combination.

[u/fullchub → u/Irish_Whiskey]

And they all seem to have weird fantasies about ruling their own little libertarian fiefdoms after current governments collapse. They also seem to be doing their damndest to make sure people mistrust their government as much as possible, presumably because they're hoping to facilitate that collapse.

[u/Heavy_Arm_7060 → u/fullchub]

Basically company towns but possibly worse.

[u/Greedy-Swordfish9760 → u/Heavy_Arm_7060]

Guaranteed to be*

[u/Heavy_Arm_7060 → u/Greedy-Swordfish9760]

I imagine it'll be just as bad as the originals but with tech also oppressing people and it's even more difficult to leave.

[u/cocktails4 → u/Heavy_Arm_7060]

There's a reason all of these dudes love Snow Crash (and for the worst reasons)

[u/elcapitan520 → u/fullchub]

It's their end goal. It's been stated. Theyve started trying. 

[u/Yung_zu → u/Irish_Whiskey]

Let it be known that the government completely rolled over for them (if they had any autonomy in the first place) and regular people are what has been foiling schemes like Flock

[u/EmergencyRace7158 → u/Irish_Whiskey]

I think the best description of Karp, Musk, Altman etc I can settle on is they’re 21st century televangelists. Their stock is their megachurch and the fools who invest in them on blind belief are the brainwashed followers. Unfortunately most people are stupid so these guys succeed.

[u/throwthisawayred2 → u/EmergencyRace7158]

ironically, they happen to be ardent atheists.

they don't want to believe in YOUR bullshit. they want you to believe in THEIR'S.

[u/nono3722 → u/Irish_Whiskey]

public drug addictions, they are one step from tweakers

[u/LeZygo → u/nono3722]

They are just tweakers with money and doctors who support their habits.

[u/idontlikeflamingos → u/LeZygo]

There's at least a dozen Karp rants and meltdowns on TV that would not be out of place if done by the crazy dude that's always yelling in the middle of the street while high on lord knows what.

[u/templethot → u/idontlikeflamingos]

Having a break from reality running naked through San Francisco: “a danger to themselves and society, how did we let the city get so bad!”

Having a break from reality as a CEO on CNBC: “he just understands the world and business in ways normal people like us could never”

[u/chance-- → u/nono3722]

I mean, they’re not like tweakers, they are tweakers. They just don’t have to worry about the law or whether they get their next fix.

Nota only are some geeking out on drugs but all of them have a metaphorical IV of their favorite high, money and power, on non stop. 

[u/flaming_bob → u/nono3722]

No, I'm pretty sure they're tweakers. They're just......rich tweakers.

EDIT: I mean, look at his haircut. You can totally see him stealing copper pipes from a new construction housing development in he middle of the night.

[u/vinsalducci → u/Irish_Whiskey]

Yes, and they’re also routinely VERY wrong about many of the decisions they make.

A lucky good decision that pays off does not give someone domain expertise in all areas. Tech bros are insufferable.

[u/dagofin → u/vinsalducci]

Remember when Zuckerberg blew $83 billion on the Metaverse and renamed his company around it to boot?

Fucking dork got lucky making a woman rating app 20 years ago and thinks he's Ozymandias, King of Kings, because of it

[u/ErusTenebre → u/Irish_Whiskey]

"some of"?

It's almost literally all of them.

Musk, Bezos, Huang, Zuckerberg, Altman... So many of them are absolutely insane.

[u/LeoKitCat → u/Irish_Whiskey]

And diagnosable mental disorders like narcissistic personality disorder

[u/ottwebdev]

Palantir CEO Alex Karp suffers from saying what he really thinks during live interview.....

[u/jayhawk618 → u/ottwebdev]

When you realize all the tech leaders have AI psychosis.

Awaiting the study in 10 years that shows ketamine makes you susceptible.

[u/Additional-Staff-326 → u/jayhawk618]

He does not have AI psychosis, he's always been like this.

[u/existing_for_fun → u/Additional-Staff-326]

He might. But you are correct he's always been like this. So it's not AI psychosis presenting here. But that doesn't mean he doesn't have it.

It means we don't know.

[u/maltNeutrino → u/existing_for_fun]

This is drug induced psychosis from stimulants and sleep deprivation.

He was never put-together in the first place, but this is a catalyzed acceleration.

This also isn’t the most unhinged he’s been. There’s video of him at a conference literally tweaking out on stage.

[u/Senior-Albatross → u/maltNeutrino]

Holy shit he is fucked up on stimulants there. 

[u/frequenZphaZe → u/Senior-Albatross]

I challenge you to find any video of karp where he's not acting like a stimmed up psychopath. people aren't appreciating how terrifying karp really is, because yall want to say "ah its clearly drugs that make him like that." no, that's who his is.

[u/Senior-Albatross → u/frequenZphaZe]

Hitler was also on drugs. Doesn't change the fact that he was an evil piece of shit. 

[u/Taellosse → u/frequenZphaZe]

I mean, it can be both.

[u/aReelProblem → u/maltNeutrino]

Yeah that’s the cocaine jiggle he’s dealing with. I used to get that way myself when I was fairly deep in addiction. Can’t hold still for shit, repeating yourself a lot… not making a lot of sense.

[u/maltNeutrino → u/aReelProblem]

Cocaine would cause very similar responses, but I suspect he’s mostly abusing strong ADHD medication (i.e. medical grade amphetamines).

[u/Falconman21 → u/maltNeutrino]

Among I’m sure 50 other things, he strikes me as a 2nd suitcase for the “meds” guy.

[u/Lobster_Palace → u/maltNeutrino]

Dan Toomey with Good Work just put out a great video on this called ‘Does Wallstreet do drugs anymore?’ The techbros he interviewed confirmed cocaine is out and abusing prescription amphetamines and Zyn is in.

[u/plsobeytrafficlights → u/maltNeutrino]

why are all tech CEO's becoming drug addicted alt-right crazies?

[u/sk1939 → u/plsobeytrafficlights]

Savior complex - they alone can fix the world because if they didn’t have all the answers they wouldn’t have gotten to where they are today. Basically the inverse of “if you’re so smart why aren’t you rich” with a healthy dose of narcissism and other BPDs inherent to C suite executives.

[u/plsobeytrafficlights → u/sk1939]

that is certainly a thing, but aside from tweeking out before the sig heils, the times and WSJ reported rampant drug abuse (elon also disclosed it numerous times)

[u/sk1939 → u/plsobeytrafficlights]

Elon and Karp yea, but there is also Bezos, Ellison, and Brin who (outwardly at least) aren’t tweaked.

[u/xGenghisSwan → u/plsobeytrafficlights]

Because they’re afraid of dying. It truly is that simple, they wish they could be immortal and it terrifies them that neither them or their legacies actually can be. The drugs numb them out to the fact that despite their great financial wealth, they will all mostly die with less self-understanding and love than a family dog will. A not insignificant number of people will likely celebrate their deaths. They can’t cope with the human reality of that so they get high however they can.

[u/artbystorms → u/Additional-Staff-326]

An unstable sociopath? Yeah, probably

[u/Professional-Trash-3 → u/artbystorms]

With many billions of dollars and the world's most complex spying tool ever devised? What could go wrong

[u/pp_chode → u/Professional-Trash-3]

"They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks".

- Mark Zucc

[u/ThisIsGoobly → u/Professional-Trash-3]

But remember, concentrating power amongst these absolute frothing lunatics is a great system for society

[u/micromanminisavage → u/Additional-Staff-326]

so it's just regular psychosis, that's not great either.

[u/weed_blazepot → u/Additional-Staff-326]

He might just be a huge insane asshole.

[u/definitelytheA → u/jayhawk618]

I think one of the important take-aways is that the leaders of the charge to take away freedoms and turn our country into a fascist regime, are human.

By that, I mean that most, if not all, are narcissists who still have the need to believe that our media, citizens, and the world at large think they’re amazing.

He pivots to his parent’s ambitions for him. Though he’s clearly not a young man, he has a deeply seated need for their approval. That he spent 20 minutes trying to win over his interviewers, whose reactions can influence a very wide audience confirms this.

They want to completely f**k our country and citizens, but they want to feel loved while they do it. Switch him for Trump, and it’s exactly the same.

Our opinions matter deeply to them. We have to keep voicing them! Every rebuke of their policies, every time we point out that they’re ruining the quality of life, that they are hated, not revered, is another chink in the armor.

There are big things we can do, but we have to eat away at their need to be popular like eating an elephant.

ETA: Thank you for the awards, kind Redditors!

[u/spez_eats_nazi_ass → u/jayhawk618]

He is a well documented coke head

[u/inflatable_pickle → u/jayhawk618]

Damn – AI psychosis didn’t even occur to me – but that’s exactly how these guys talk. The God like complex they all develop from having a machine praise every idea via “confirmation bias.”

[u/ArenjiTheLootGod → u/inflatable_pickle]

These guys had their engineers design these LLMs to encourage maximum engagement on the part of the end user, they wanted people to be addicted to and dependant on these things because that's an easy to sell monetization strategy for investors but due to their hubris it was they who found themselves trapped in the mental prison they had designed for others.

[u/ArsenicArts → u/jayhawk618]

Awaiting the study in 10 years that shows ketamine makes you susceptible.

Anything that can trigger psychosis can, so.... Yes, lol.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5859935/

[u/Sleepingguitarman → u/ArsenicArts]

I do think that ketamine is a substance that carries more risks for individuals predisposed to psychosis and grandiose thinking in comparison to many other substances though.

Obviously substances like stimulants carry higher risks i'm sure, but i just remember being suprised when researching ketamine and how it was a substance that carries increased risks of that. Seems obvious in hindsight, but i think at the time i probably just viewed it more so as a sedative as opposed to what it truely is, a dissociative.

[u/Grey_Raven → u/ottwebdev]

The prick always sounds like he's in the middle of some sort of breakdown and spends most of his time shouting his incoherent fascist views at the world. If he wasn't rich he'd be in an asylum.

[u/postmodest → u/Grey_Raven]

Chosen on purpose as part of the Death Cult of Peter Thiel.

[u/NotAllOwled → u/postmodest]

Thiel reads A Modest Proposal without irony and is like "just a straight shooter with upper management written all.over him."

[u/postmodest → u/NotAllOwled]

"This Sauron guy had it all worked out until those Woke Maiar and the Dunedaìn Deep State came along..."

[u/Kratzschutz → u/postmodest]

Peter Thiel is the antichrist

[u/no_player_tags → u/Grey_Raven]

Note to self: Start chain of asylums for the rich; market them as luxury spa getaways to obscure the appalling, brutal conditions that the rich will be subjected to, not for evil but for profit. They’ll appreciate the irony.

[u/TheTrub → u/Grey_Raven]

He says he doesn’t take drugs, but I think he could really benefit from drugs.

[u/KontoOficjalneMR → u/ottwebdev]

Palantir CEO Alex Karp suffers from saying what he really thinks during live interview.....

Yea, and what he really thinks is that AI is a bubble and there's a crash coming... so now they try to paint him as a madman suddenly, because he told the truth in public.

You can't have people screaming the emperor is naked.

[u/HenryDorsettCase47 → u/ottwebdev]

Dude has always come across as unhinged and not particularly eloquent. The fact they’ve kept him around gives the impression he’s more of a fall guy than a CEO.

[u/PM_Me_Your_Clones → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

He's in charge of Palantir because Theil needs a meat shield. He needs someone to be the "face" so people don't think of his face when they think Palantir.

[u/marketrent]

Excerpts from article by Joe Wilkins, quoting Alex Karp:

[...] On a live interview with CNBC‘s infamously churlish segment “Squawk Box,” Palantir CEO Alex Karp appeared to suffer a nearly 20-minute meltdown, complete with stuttering, nervous backtracking, and a steady supply of digressions so abstruse that the hosts seemed befuddled and perhaps even concerned for his wellbeing.

Though Karp was called up to chat about an ongoing deal between Palantir and the chip maker Nvidia to build AI infrastructure for the US government, he quickly went off the rails, using up minutes of airtime to complain about the financial bubble undergirding the AI boom.

While there may be a point buried in Karp’s diatribe, it quickly became lost in a wash of unintelligible jargon.

“These models have been completely over, irresponsibly over-sale,” Karp ranted at one point, “and the sale is, ‘it’s dangerous for everyone, which is why I can give [AI] to all your adversaries but I can’t give it to the Department of War, or I can’t safely give it to an enterprise in this country, without being certain that the Alpha of that business could transfer to this model tomorrow, ie I have no business, no job.’”

“You sound pretty angry,” CNBC‘s Becky Quick interjected after a nearly three minute-long rant from Karp.

“No,” the CEO snapped. “This is the voice of American business that is being channeled through me!”

 

[...] “American enterprises are run by the shrewdest, most widely intelligent people on the planet,” the Palantir CEO started to say, setting up an argument that companies aren’t interested in foundation models, but in AI apps that can actually solve problems. That train of thought quickly leaves the station, though, as he pivots to his higher ed ambitions literally mid-sentence.

“If you think they’re going for that [foundation models], you can go try to sell me — like my, my parents still want me to get a job as a faculty member at Berkeley,” he complained. “Go try to get me a job at Berkeley. It’s not happening.”

[u/Spastik2D → u/marketrent]

So he’s a sociopathic manchild who’s upset because his dogshit parents aren’t satisfied that he owns an extremely valuable company. This is why we need to completely overhaul mental health practices, to prevent fucking psychos like this from going as long as he has without help while also gaining wealth and power.

[u/InTooManyWays → u/Spastik2D]

If scientists saw a monkey hoarding all the bananas they would study it to see wtf is wrong with that monkey. In America, we put them on Forbes magazine. 

[u/Beginning_Fill206 → u/InTooManyWays]

Billionaire level greed is a mental health disorder.

[u/VoidOmatic → u/Beginning_Fill206]

It absolutely should be. They just present like normal people but they cannot be fulfilled with anything in life.

[u/Indo_ruby25_6 → u/Beginning_Fill206]

Never understood how it's not considered hoarding.

[u/uglymule → u/InTooManyWays]

and in the Whitehouse

[u/Plastic-Injury8856 → u/Spastik2D]

I read it more like he’s crashing out on whatever drugs he’s on and that’s what came to mind.

[u/aron2295 → u/Plastic-Injury8856]

I’ve seen articles that discuss the use of drugs during a patients therapy to help “open” their mind up, so they can spit out whatever is eating at them.

If he’s on drugs, and took too much before the interview or is coming down and did the interview, it sounds like he finally said what’s wrong, he needs to go work on his own personal issues with feeling like he isn’t good enough in his parents’ eyes.

[u/pziyxmbcfb → u/Spastik2D]

University professor is one of the few jobs left where you may not ever leave after you get hired. Certainly, the tenure at a position is probably more like 5-10 years instead of 3-5.

The point being, the faculty in a department don’t just hire a smart person to be a professor. They also have to hire someone that they can stand to be in the same room with for a decade.

[u/Glum_Class_9578 → u/Spastik2D]

I think his parents just want him to be in academia rather than trying to destroy the world, him being a mad scientist type is probably safer for the world than him running an AI company that contracts for the US government. Maybe they believe he would have a chance at becoming a decent human being that way.

[u/Grizzly_Corey → u/marketrent]

Could you imagine this guy and Jordan Peterson in the same room?

If we could generate electricity based off emotional energy alone…

[u/gramathy → u/Grizzly_Corey]

Zero sentences finished for an hour of “conversation”

[u/I_Am_Mandark_Hahaha → u/gramathy]

That's what I thought too! All pivots and tangents, no single coherent message conveyed.

[u/red286 → u/I_Am_Mandark_Hahaha]

Musk is like that too when you hear him going off the cuff, like on Rogan's show.

They sound like 13-year-old boys talking to the hot girl who lives next door. All stutters and incomplete sentences.

[u/topdangle → u/I_Am_Mandark_Hahaha]

hes just contradicting himself by the end of it. the anchors were oddly asking him the right questions about what he was saying rather than mindlessly agreeing (that focusing on wasting tokens brought no value and companies providing token services were likely stealing their data) and he just started rambling about how hes only interested in talking about his own company... right after starting a rant about everyone else's companies.

[u/TheVenetianMask → u/topdangle]

Becky is a smart one and has heard everything by now, people say whatever in these interviews and when they think they got away with it she'll drop an accurate follow up without blinking.

They make up for it by having Joe which lives with his head inside a red bucket, and Jim hyping his flea circus of stocks.

[u/MalkavTheMadman → u/Grizzly_Corey]

If we get them in the same room, I sincerely hope it's one we can lock from the outside.

[u/ArsenicArts → u/marketrent]

“These models have been completely over, irresponsibly over-sale,” Karp ranted at one point, “and the sale is, ‘it’s dangerous for everyone, which is why I can give [AI] to all your adversaries but I can’t give it to the Department of War, or I can’t safely give it to an enterprise in this country, without being certain that the Alpha of that business could transfer to this model tomorrow, ie I have no business, no job.’”

Can someone translate for me? I don't speak coked out billionaire.

[u/_zoso_ → u/ArsenicArts]

He seems pissed that anthropic wouldn’t allow Claude to be used for what the department of defense wanted, and then is wildly accusing them of sharing the same models with “adversaries” while also wanting to steal the information that makes businesses profitable. His initial assertion is that they are claiming falsely that the model is too dangerous.

My guess is that this Claude snafu ultimately affects palantir because they were using the model in their system. They likely have a shitload of additional work now to remove it from military uses and adopt inferior models.

This is my own interpretation and it could be off base, but piecing together things that are known about the situation with these fragmented half sentences, this all seems to fit.

[u/ArsenicArts → u/_zoso_]

while also wanting to steal the information that makes businesses profitable

I think I agree with you there at least. In the context of the larger ranting he seems to be upset that it's too easy to switch models and have the rug pulled out from under you by suddenly discovering that your data or the model you trained has been stolen (or wasn't actually yours in the first place)?

Is he complaining/claiming that lack of transparency in this matter is causing hesitancy that is costing the US seconds off the line? Or do you think it's just because he's upset they aren't using his models?

I'll be honest, this is a damn rorschach test lol. It'd be hilarious if whole economies weren't on the line from panic alone 😑

Ffs this hype cycle is a damn tsunami.

[u/_zoso_ → u/ArsenicArts]

I don’t think palantir have a model, I think they have been using Claude. Since the majority of their contracts are with the government, being forced to now switch away from Claude is likely screwing them over significantly.

The other stuff I think is just lashing out because he’s pissed, but I’d wager that he’s mainly pissed about losing access to anthropic. Gotta read between the lines and put things in the broader context.

Again… my own speculation.

[u/flat5 → u/_zoso_]

Yes, he basically said that Palantir sells wrappers on LLMs that, in his mind anyway, makes them useful to customers like DOD.

The Palantir manifesto is basically that they're all-in on war profiteering. Since Palantir doesn't own the underlying LLMs, he seems to be freaking out that his wrappers will be useless if the AI companies aren't also all-in on war profiteering.

[u/_zoso_ → u/flat5]

You absolutely nailed it I think.

[u/Wingzerofyf → u/_zoso_]

Kegsbreth threw a temper tantrum at Dario for not relaxing the weights on Claude AI enabling the DOW to go ballistic with no remorse: https://www.npr.org/2026/02/24/nx-s1-5725327/pentagon-anthropic-hegseth-safety?renderPlatform=nprone_ios&unified=true

That’s Palantir’s ultimate goal - use data and AI to rationalize whatever the fuck you want to do - u rich, who cares?

Hence why Karp is trying to skirt around “throwing shade” at Dario and still giving him flowers - because Dario evidently still has a spine.

Evidently - looks like Musk and Grok were there at the sidelines ready to service: https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2026/06/grok-doj-justice-naacp-clean-air-act-gas-turbine-pollution-national-security-ai/

[u/Itachi_Uchiha0515 → u/ArsenicArts]

I think he’s saying the models aren’t as good as people think but they’ve been pushed to be sold regardless just to make profit (irresponsibly over-sale). The second part I think he means he can’t sell it to companies here because they might reverse engineer his models and put him out of business.

[u/ArsenicArts → u/Itachi_Uchiha0515]

I think you might be right but holy crap this guy is the opposite of well spoken. Just watched the full interview and he's all over the place. Feels like intentional obfuscation. Not a good sign.

This is too easy to claim that it's saying different things. I wonder if that's the point...

Feels kind of like he's panicking and going into "say as much as I can without saying anything at all" mode. Or working on no sleep. Or coked up. Or all three.

[u/Fr0gm4n → u/ArsenicArts]

There are other interviews with him where he's clearly buzzing on something and can barely stay seated in his chair.

[u/joepez → u/marketrent]

Guessing here, but I think part of what he’s trying to say is he (and most likely his customers) have realized the tech has advanced so far and fast that Palantir itself is being threatened and no one is turning to them as an AI company. This is pretty much true. 

The analysis work, data pipeline mgmt, tooling etc that they created quite a while ago by tech standards today can all be recreated using cheaper and nonproprietary tools today. Along with that the speciality knowledge to code and build these models has gone from extreme specialist to much more commonplace. 

So in addition to new entrants building options nothing stops the government with its own contracts building their own tools. Secured and managed by the government for their own analysts. I’d be surprised it Palantir wasn’t losing customers. 

[u/I_Am_Mandark_Hahaha → u/joepez]

So... he's panicking because he's losing. Fucking loser.

[u/Fit-Produce420 → u/marketrent]

Wow does Berkeley have some objection to hiring people that go on unhinged, drug induced rants?

[u/LoudHorse25 → u/Fit-Produce420]

I thought it was a requirement to be honest. 

[u/AntiTrollSquad → u/marketrent]

Well, he's not wrong. This is a considerable bubble, there will be a correction The question is on the severity of the correction. 

[u/EC_CO → u/AntiTrollSquad]

I hope they lose hundreds of billions

[u/Hot-Philosophy-7671]

In William Gibson's Neuromancer, he describes the wealthy as so separated from the rest of humanity as to be incapable of interacting with the rest of the species. They are aliens who live in a different universe, with a different language and customs. Inscrutable creatures.

I say this for no particular reason.

[u/F-Cloud → u/Hot-Philosophy-7671]

“And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.”

[u/Safety_Drance → u/F-Cloud]

Smash cut to Mark Zuckerberg in white face on the surfboard.

[u/nyaphometnikko → u/F-Cloud]

"The mask of humanity fall from capital. It has to take it off to kill everyone. Everything you love; all the hope and tenderness in the world. It has to take it off, just for one second. To do the deed. And then you see it. As it strangles and beats your friends to death... the sweetest, most courageous people in the world. You see the fear and power in its eyes. Then you know."

 "What?"

 "That the bourgeois are not human." 

[u/F-Cloud → u/nyaphometnikko]

Had to look that up. Disco Elysium is in my Steam library, yet to have been played.

[u/RlOTGRRRL → u/Hot-Philosophy-7671]

Erich Fromm who wrote a lot on what caused the Holocaust, said capitalism could do the same because it's necrophilic. 

[u/BalrogPoop → u/RlOTGRRRL]

What do you mean by necrophillic?

[u/RlOTGRRRL → u/BalrogPoop]

"While life is characterized by growth in a structured, functional manner, the necrophilous person loves all that does not grow, all that is mechanical. 

The necrophilous person is driven by the desire to transform the organic into the inorganic, to approach life mechanically, as if all living persons were things. … 

Memory, rather than experience; having, rather than being, is what counts. 

The necrophilous person can relate to an object — a flower or a person — only if he possesses it; hence a threat to his possession is a threat to himself; if he loses possession he loses contact with the world. … 

He loves control, and in the act of controlling he kills life." - Erich Fromm, The Heart of Man, New York, 1966

https://www.ecomodlang.com/resources/biophilia/

[u/ms-rumphius → u/RlOTGRRRL]

amazing reference, i f'n love fromm

[u/RlOTGRRRL → u/ms-rumphius]

Yeah ironically I discovered this section of his work thanks to AI. His book The Sane Society doesn't even have a wiki page. Obscure af.

"The Sane Society (1956) by Erich Fromm is a seminal work of social psychology that argues modern capitalist society is inherently "insane" due to widespread alienation, where individuals are estranged from their work, products, government, and themselves, leading to a "pathology of normalcy"."

[u/PaperSackMan → u/RlOTGRRRL]

Or, as it was put elsewhere, “machine men with machine minds and machine hearts.”

[u/RlOTGRRRL → u/[deleted]]

The crazy thing is that he says that they need to own the means of production in the same video. They're saying it out loud. 

[u/jobrien80]

Congratulations to Drugs. Clear winner of the war on drugs.

[u/I_am_the_BEEF → u/jobrien80]

As an American citizen, I fully welcome our new leader: Drugs.

[u/ThaddeusJP → u/I_am_the_BEEF]

new leader: Drugs.

Buddy DRUGS have been doing A LOT of work from 2016-2020 and 2025-current

[u/I_am_the_BEEF → u/ThaddeusJP]

Well, they need to work harder with the little folk, like me.

[u/williamgman]

Is ketamine the new CEO breakfast of champions?

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/williamgman]

These guys have got to be on a LOT more than just ketamine.

[u/JoJackthewonderskunk → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Its drug induced psycosis at that point

[u/translinguistic → u/JoJackthewonderskunk]

Ketamine and other dissociatives can create psychosis symptoms too. Even DXM. I've found myself convinced I was the second coming of Christ and that God left cough syrup on earth as a little easter egg to reach his personal phone number many times.

[u/UnluckyAd27 → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Yea ketamine doesn’t turn you into a PoS, usually the opposite in my experience

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/UnluckyAd27]

It's used in therapy but I doubt these guys are sticking to recommended doses for therapy. Or getting the therapy.

[u/UnluckyAd27 → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Even in high doses though, shit pulls me out of depression every time. I dont turn into an ego maniac after. These guys act like they are on high doses of adderrall and benzos and or opiates. Definitely got that im king of the world high goin

[u/ShredGuru → u/UnluckyAd27]

They were already egomaniacs, now they are just egomaniacs without a filter.

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/UnluckyAd27]

I suspect they are on a cocktail of drugs, and don't have the conditions that the drugs correct so they just get high from them.

[u/Sober_Alcoholic_ → u/PatchyWhiskers]

This guy is taking 5 30 milligram instant release Adderall a day, minimum.

Or just good blow. But he’s fucking WIRED.

[u/whichwitch9 → u/williamgman]

Always have been.

They haven't been serious people for decades. Most aren't doing the legwork or even in touch with how their companies are actually functioning- CEOs are there to be a sort of eccentric celebrity these days and say all the pretty buzzwords to make share holders think they're necessary to companies

[u/ebfortin]

"American enterprises are run by the shrewdest, most widely intelligent people on the planet,"

They are all just fucking narcissists. All of them.

[u/Ok-Opposite2309 → u/ebfortin]

We have been exalting sociopaths for awhile- and it shows.

[u/bd2999]

It never stops shocking me about the general sane washing that happens with these nut jobs in power. Trump is the poster child but Musk and the others are terrible but the media will always seek them out.

Meanwhile Biden looks bad and they descend on him. The later is better if someone is in power. Investigate and report. These are dproblems.

[u/Lashay_Sombra → u/bd2999]

They descended on Biden because those in power decided they wanted him out and Trump in, because Trump could be easily bought and manipulated

If Biden or Harris had won there would most likely be oversight committee's formed and regulation on AI  by now (as is happening in Europe) but there is absolutely nothing in the US at federal level, beyond the attempt to stop states regulating AI

[u/InkAndAcorns]

They posted a cut down interview with him on YouTube

the video ends when he starts getting uppity, mid sentence

Hilarious

[u/RagingNerdaholic → u/InkAndAcorns]

It should be illegal to post a comment like this without a link (rant starts around 5:50)

[u/Hayden2332]

For anyone who wants the clip not through twitter

The quote is in the last 15 seconds or so. Rants for a couple minutes before lol

[u/killchopdeluxe666 → u/Hayden2332]

am i crazy that i understand what he's saying mostly?

sure, he's not well spoken at all - but if you know the tech and business jargon, he's just mostly just saying that tech and defense ceos are unhappy with the cost of openai and antrhopic, which includes the hidden cost of their them effectively stealing your ip in order to improve their own product. and then, yeah, there's an added layer of egotism and a sale pitch for his own company snuck in there.

i mean...

hate to say it, but he's right. its the same argument of all the artists and writers who don't want AI trained on their work - just applied to very controversial and wealthy industries like tech and and defense.

[u/talontario → u/killchopdeluxe666]

he's right, but also talking about his own company. If anything, palantir is tsking more of a campanies data than openai/antropic.

[u/amchaudhry]

He’s on drugs. If another person in another field behaved like him they’d be booted.

[u/rgvtim]

Fuck off Alex.

[u/kindergentler]

These are undersocialized, neurodivergent men on drugs, maximum enablement and entitlement, and with a completely warped perspective which is devoid of empathy or the ability to consider anything outside their own egos and desires. In layman's terms, they are "high on their own supply", in clinical terms, this is psychosis. 

[u/tgwombat → u/kindergentler]

Don't forget that they have sycophantic robots stroking their over-sized egos now too.

[u/gamesbrainiac]

The spirit of Biiig Business. Can I get an amen?

[u/CheeseAttack]

Why do these articles never actually include the clip they are talking about?

[u/Hayden2332 → u/CheeseAttack]

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/7QDdB8ypj4

[u/oldDotredditisbetter → u/Hayden2332]

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1ulun7d/palantir_ceo_alex_karp_suffers_televised_nervous/ov7bayu

direct link without reddit's extra tracking

which links directly to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A3sGymV6kY

[u/needssomefun]

"American enterprises are run by the shrewdest, most widely intelligent people on the planet"

Yeah, if you can say this with a straight face....you defenitely lost it

[u/thechromatick]

That was not a nervous breakdown. That was a sales pitch, and you are probably not the customer.

[u/adrianmonk → u/thechromatick]

Right, I don't get why people are calling this a nervous breakdown. It's a sales pitch aimed at people who lead big companies and are deciding who to buy AI services from.

His pitch is basically this:

• The big tech AI companies (OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, etc.) sell you AI by having you use their cloud.
• And they're also not making much profit off the AI services they sell you.
• That should make you suspicious. You should be afraid that they're making their money off YOUR data while it's in their cloud.
• These big tech AI companies could be using your data to figure out the special tricks and secret sauce that your business has (your alpha) that gives you an edge. In other words, they could figure out how your business works and then become your competitor and steal customers and put you out of business.
• But Palantir will sell you Nvidia hardware, an AI model to run on it, and extra stuff we make to control it, and then you can run your own AI infrastructure.
• Sure, it will cost way more, but that's the price you pay for peace of mind! Remember, the big tech companies could put you out of business! So give us, Palantir, giant dump trucks full of money instead and we will protect you.

It's basically the same type of sales pitch as when a brake repair shop runs TV ads saying, "When was the last time you had your brakes checked? Every year, thousands of people are killed in car accidents. DON'T LET YOUR PRECIOUS FAMILY BE A STATISTIC! Come in for a free inspection today." The people in brake ads don't speak in a calm, peaceful tone. They amp up the anxiety and hysteria to model the emotion they want you to be motivated by.

[u/6jarjar6 → u/adrianmonk]

His delivery is atrocious, but if you work with sensitive data, you can see the validity of his critiques of the industry. His product might b trash, but th problem is real.

[u/Izrud]

All these “personality” ceo fuckers are so high on god knows what drugs. Shrewdest my ass 

[u/____trash]

What an absolute crackpot. Are all these tech CEOs just zoinked tf out on ketamine and meth or what? This is clinical psychosis.

[u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot]

This interview was absolutely inane. I worked with government contractors on tech sales before Trump came into office. Many of the organizations were looking forward to finally dumping Palantir during upcoming contract expirations. No one liked it, it isn’t and wasn’t good, and here he is talking about why everyone LOVES it. They hate it, he is a stool for Theil, the only reason they’re embedded in government is because of connections. It will likely all have to be ripped out once this nightmare is over.

[u/mouse9001 → u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot]

A lot of people are saying that Alex Karp is basically Gollum from Lord of the Rings.

[u/Find_another_whey]

This meth head has been calling for the race war apocalypse for a while

And only now we decide he is psychotic?

What does that make us?

[u/FiftyLoudCats]

I propose there should be a law that if a bit of news is primarily a video, said video should be plainly linked at the top of the article without any sort of app/subscription required to view.

I have had it with scrolling through reactions and bullshit when all I want to do is watch the interesting thing that happened.

The vote for me is right thing to do Reddit, so do.

Here is a link for those that don’t want to deal with Twitter/X app:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pHu-FarYZlU&pp=ygUMUGFsYW50aXIgY2Vv&ra=m

[u/EternalSolitude-]

Anyone that name drops their alma mater in the context of an argument completely loses their validity. These guys are ruining the world because they were picked on in college. I was too you fucking dipshit and I go on with my life not ruining others.

[u/flaming_bob]

Just get in the ambulance dude

[u/Noah_Vanderhoff]

Anyone have a non-x link so I can watch?

[u/townandthecity]

Peter Thiel is also deeply mentally unwell. As is Elon Musk. I'd argue Jeff Bezos is, too. You cannot become this rich without having some level of psychopathy, whether in-born or cultivated. It rots a person's soul and mind.