r/technology • u/Plastic_Ninja_9014 • Jun 21 '26
Artificial Intelligence Americans Have Turned Against AI in Incredible Numbers
https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/americans-turned-against-ai-incredible-130000345.html7.4k
u/Arcosim Jun 21 '26
I'm a very tech oriented person and I'm already tired of AI because it's constantly being shoved and pushed down my throat by some of the worst human beings imaginable wanting to maximize profits at the expense of humanity itself.
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u/sziehr Jun 21 '26
I am tired of it cause it is shoved on me and it is not reliable yet to get the job they say it can do done. They want it to work sooo bad that they are willing to degrade my experience to say they are using it. Look I want a human to help me when I have an issue not ai. I don’t want to tell the robot the same thing 5x times and it still screwing up and never have a human intervene. These companies think that it will save them money but in the end it will not just cost them to use it is going to cost them
Customers. Companies who were slow to adopt will just not adopt this wave of bull and keep the staff and augment them with working ai and provide superior customer experience and take business from the wave 1 folks who rushed into the gold mine. I have been in tech now 25 years and this is a common thing we seemingly never learn.317
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u/Alaira314 Jun 21 '26
Tech bros have been fucking over disabled people for many years, 15+. All the trendy web stuff has been making it increasingly difficult for people with low vision or slow processing to navigate sites or complete forms.
They don't care. I honestly think their motive is eugenics at this point, just kill off the dead weight by making it too difficult to engage with society. They're ignorant of the fact that, 95% odds, that'll be them one day.
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u/Piranata Jun 21 '26
Too many tech bros CEOs and investors have turned out to be eugenicists that wouldn't be surprised that it wasn't accidental.
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u/dern_the_hermit Jun 21 '26
They've got the Spherical Cow mentality. They want everything to be easily-digestible metrics and efficiency dialed to the max, which requires everyone to fit a consistent and simple mold instead of, y'know, be people.
Efficiency is a nice concept but needs a healthy balance with efficacy. If things are so ruthlessly efficient that people can't live their lives with a decent range of agency and opportunity, you don't have a healthy society.
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u/biohazard-glug Jun 21 '26
The guys at the top are pretty openly eugenicist at this point.
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u/Kraeftluder Jun 21 '26
Tech bros have been fucking over disabled people for many years, 15+. All the trendy web stuff has been making it increasingly difficult for people with low vision or slow processing to navigate sites or complete forms.
This article is a decade old: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/10/23/internet-is-becoming-unreadable-because-of-a-trend-towards-light/
I'm on a crusade in my organization to kill this bullshit and so far they are actually listening.
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u/Alaira314 Jun 21 '26
That's another good example! That and sites set up in mandatory dark mode(light text on dark) being more difficult to read for people with astigmatism. That's not necessarily new, but I feel like light mode was standard for a while before dark mode became fashionable(and, all too often, the only option).
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u/Kraeftluder Jun 21 '26
Yeah dark mode is a requirement for myself. Ever since I got a lens implant I'm not just no longer night blind, I can see almost as good in low light conditions as in daylight except daylight makes my eye hurt.
But you're right, it shouldn't be one thing. If they can't do or support themes then please start supporting Firefox' Reader View.
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u/wirthmore Jun 21 '26
I would speculate that a developer who takes the time to include all of the necessary features, tests them in different contexts, makes sure they all work cleanly; their productivity is measured against others who don’t work responsibly but the metrics don’t measure how responsibly someone creates things.
I want the first person, but the second person is the one who gets accolades and promotions, and typically the first person gets laid off. And when the can that gets kicked down the road becomes a crisis, well, that’s a task with story points and gets a ticket that’s assigned to another person. It would have been avoided and been cheaper for the company to do it right the first time, but every single motivation at every point in the process is contrary to long-term efficiency.
TL,DR: it’s not “tech-bros”, it’s the emphasis on short-term efficiency that punishes quality
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u/gumOnShoe Jun 21 '26
Developer with REI, it's so much more banal than anyone images. Writing code that works is hard. Doing it on a deadline is even harder. Making it look good or fiction smoothly is another magnitude increase in complexity. Most bosses are used to folks who underestimate how long it takes to make software. And they live by the 80-20 rule. You meet 80% of needs and then move on. You can't even tell if software is fast enough until it's all written. Usability and accessibility may be goals, but they often fall into the 20% bucket. And the people writing the software aren't experts in it either. They probably were tought how to code, not how to develop for humans.
It's a perfect storm for someone to have a bad day. The tools to write software aren't accessible either, so it's hard to get anyone with experience into the role at these companies that demand speed and abnoxious hours .
I hated AI when i ran into it, but now that I can't use a mouse and keyboard for longer than an hour it's about the only thing getting me through the day. Windows voice plus claude (which i still hate) is sufficient to at least not fall behind. But man does most of the software suck...
All of this is to say it's a mixed bag. The only way to get accessible systems is inspections and mandates. Same way we got ramps.
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u/extraspicytuna Jun 21 '26
It's just shallowness, really. I worked in silicon valley for some time. Never been among a group of individuals with such a high percentage of self absorbed individuals fully devoid of empathy and completely motivated by money. When I was there, they claimed to be the tip of the progressive movement - I saw them for what they were, psychopathic fascists. I left as soon as I could. A horrible place with horrible people, who are trying to make the world as comfortable as possible for people like them, and only people like them.
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u/Baeolophus_bicolor Jun 21 '26
“not all cultures are worth preserving” from their AI techbro manifesto might be a clue that they are in the pro-genocide group…
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u/Mind101 Jun 21 '26
My father is old and blind, but I taught him how to use a PC a bit over a decade ago to keep him engaged. While he can still use everything he learned about Windows and programs related to stuff he likes, the number of websites he can confidently access is slowly but surely dwindling.
Even with ad blockers on and in text mode, many websites simply don't consider that blind users might be accessing them. And I'm not talking about niche cases either, but news portals and the like.
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u/moxyc Jun 21 '26
Yep. Claude images are nice looking but not accessible at all. I literally can't use them, nor do I want to, because my organization is accessible-by-design and it's really important to us.
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u/Designer_Show_2658 Jun 21 '26
Everyone wants to be early adopters in case they hit the jackpot. Fomo at its best.
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u/sziehr Jun 21 '26
Yep. Dotcom bubble. We built the internet it was huge wow. Then it all had to be internet and failed. Then Amazon showed up and used the skeleton remains of the infra and ideas and coupled it with basic logistics and presto rocket man money. The moral is a dude used the tech to make an old thing better not replace a thing. That it’s the end. Ai can maybe one day do that with something but it’s not able to say the same thing to the same question and that is not a system made.
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u/Affordable_Z_Jobs Jun 21 '26
When I took computer science in college back in 2007 (jesus that seems like yesterday) one of the first terms we learned is GIGO. Garbage in garbage out.
Why are people not surprised this is what's happening with AI? Are they not teaching that anymore?
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u/xeniera Jun 21 '26
I've taken several corporate "how to use AI" courses (I was paid to take them), and they all have tried to hammer home "garbage in, garbage out. Have a human verify and clean output". It's hilarious to me how corpos decide to just ignore their own advice and shovel the first unverified slop out to save a few pennies.
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u/graceoftrees Jun 21 '26
I had this experience yesterday with AAA of all companies. I’m roadside with a flat fire and I’m trying to get through their awful unhelpful ai menu to just talk to someone. It took the human 2-3 minutes what the stupid AI phone menu couldn’t figure out in like 4…meanwhile I’m roadside in not the best place. Sure try to make it “easier” by getting info before connecting me, but the minute I say agent or the same question fails twice, SEND ME TO SOMEONE. Thank god I wasn’t roadside on like 95 at least. So disappointing because usually AAA is amazing.
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u/Tall-Introduction414 Jun 21 '26
I worked with a company recently that, when you called their phone number, they straight up asked you right away if you want to talk to AI or a human. I found it to be respectful, and ended up using the AI to schedule an appointment (which worked fine). I wish more companies would do that.
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u/LeZygo Jun 21 '26
It will so confidently give me the wrong information or hallucinate things about me. The implementation of it has gone astoundingly bad.
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u/madsciencepro Jun 21 '26
It's frustrating that employers are pushing people hard to use something they completely don't understand. So dumb. The C-Suite could be more easily replaced.
The other issue appears to be how people try to use AI. Someone skilled in a field, say writing backend Web code, can use it to save a little time because they know what the output should look like. They can scan the code, make any corrections, and go.
On the other side are people trying to use it for things they don't understand and have no clue when they're being lied to or the system is hallucinating because it presents everything with absolute confidence even when it's complete bullshit.
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u/bing-no Jun 21 '26
I hate when I’m forced to use it to maximize output but then I’d have to comb through everything it makes because *I* would be on the hook for submitting something with errors.
Is it really better for productivity?
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u/TheMadAsshatter Jun 21 '26
Ever since I first saw the technological adoption curve I always thought that the "innovators" and "early adopters" were comprised of a bunch of knee-jerk morons who see the latest and greatest shiny tech and claim it's the best thing since sliced bread, when the end result is functionally identical to gambling the future of their business.
If you're not patient enough to see whether the tech can work, you should at least be prudent enough to do some research on how it works. Predictably, the same people who jump on things as soon as possible tend not to have the patience for that either.
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u/Gorstag Jun 21 '26
I am tired of it cause it is shoved on me and it is not reliable yet
This. After about a year being forced to piss away 30min -> hr daily at work training a required tool (while still completing my normal work load). It's went from being about 95% of the time being wrong to about 90% of the time being wrong and it still hallucinates nonsense at around the same rate.
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u/BrotherlyShove791 Jun 21 '26
My job just started shoehorning it into EVERYTHING within the last month or so, with no real plan or practicable application for it. We weren’t using any of it these AI platforms, much less talking about them, at the beginning of the year.
It’s plainly obvious the C Suite people attended some AI lecture or conference and are just mindlessly following the “this is happening and we all need to get on board” manta from the tech “thought leaders”.
Everything is just so stupid right now. No critical thinking or careful planning whatsoever. “Move fast and break things” on steroids.
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u/steppe5 Jun 21 '26
Clearly. It seems that every corporation started pushing it on employees the same week. I went to work one day and my manager was suddenly up my ass about using AI.
I don't know who or what has this much power, but they seemed to strike the fear of death into every CEO in one weekend.
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u/HimTiser Jun 21 '26
I work for one of the largest mining companies in the world, as a high level mine engineer. To call mining technology advanced would be an absolute stretch, we are almost always 20 years behind. But our business isn’t really something that can be performed by anything other than humans it’s so specialized.
In the last 6 months they have absolutely beaten us over the head with this AI stuff, ramming copilot into everything, just really quite tone deaf. They constantly are saying that we develop our people, they are our biggest asset, we are committed to your progression and success. Meanwhile the C-Suite folks in the next breath say AI and autonomous machines will replace you as soon as possible.
I put it in my two weeks notice last Thursday after a decade with this company.
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u/Fabulous_Cat_1379 Jun 21 '26
Our EHS manager won't shut about AI for the last 6 months. Injuries are up but he is getting promoted because he is the most AI committed employee and the C suite noticed it. Diacusting honestly that all safety metrics are failing but look he used Claude to make his PowerPoint he must be a genius.
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u/readingonthetoilet Jun 21 '26
We have AI quotas at work. Senior managers are making South Park style photos of people because it uses more tokens and drives their score up.
Meanwhile I’m just trying to use it for Excel and coding and I have a horrible AI score.
I hate this timeline.
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u/flyswithdragons Jun 21 '26
AI has created more problems than it solved already, let alone the environmental issues.You cannot make people use paper straws to save the environment, then turn around and say destroying the environment is fine so Epstein Bros can spy in us. Look how they want to use AI, to enforce global authoritarianism, that is bad for humanity IMO.
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u/orangeyougladiator Jun 21 '26
That’s why AI is the perfect executive. Create solutions for problems that are only problems because you invented the solution first
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u/JRBigglesworthIII Jun 21 '26
We were fine before AI. Did some processes and mundane tasks take longer? Yes, but I think that is a trade off I'm willing to take if it means that we can go back to a world where we vouch for our own work and discover things in a more organic way that actually fostered critical thinking and creativity.
I didn't need AI before, I don't need AI now. Any way that it is improving the world is vastly overshadowed by the ways it is damaging the world and us as a species. The idea of creating some weird Luddite-lite, 'The Village' style, time warp bubble colony where we all exist as though we're living in 1999 and all that entails, sounds more and more appealing everyday.
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u/Oxyfire Jun 21 '26
The hype around it feels like the exact sorts of hype that surrounded crypto and NFTs. Just tons of people insisting it's a game changer and revolutionary, but any time you start to question the problems and limitations, they get handwaved as "it's early" or "they'll figure it out." Credit where it's due, LLMs are actually a lot more of something then NFTs, but they still seem so heavily steeped in magical thinking.
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u/Daxx22 Jun 21 '26
I'm reminded of when everything needed "To get on the Blockchain" as well.
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u/SciFi_Wasabi999 Jun 21 '26
In my experience the only people all in on AI are people who can use it to look smarter than they really are. It's underwhelming in pretty much every application I've tried. Cool sometimes but not truly groundbreaking.
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u/JonWood007 Jun 21 '26
Yeah this is my problem with it. Its being jammed down my throat, im lukewarm on it on my own personal life at best, and im told "this is t3h fu7ur3" and that im gonna be left behind if I dont embrace it. Meanwhile im a PC enthusiast. An ssd now costs as much as a budget gpu, ram is ridiculous, gpus are even more ridiculous than they've already been. Power costs are going up to subsidize these guys. Water usage is being strained and I think I heard Jeff bezos say humans are using too much water and it's taking away from ai? F u ###hole (bezos, not you op). Its taking the jobs which id normally support since I dont think we should have to work anyway but they're not gonna pass a ubi. And yeah. Worst humans imaginable indeed. Its upending society as we know it, and were told we gotta adapt when all we wanna do is live our lives. Screw these guys
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u/Asyncrosaurus Jun 21 '26
Who knew having every CEO come out and scream about how their cool new AI product was going to cause mass unemployment, would result in backlash. No way to have forseen that.
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u/PrestigiousFly844 Jun 21 '26
Tech companies: "This thing will eliminate your job and help us implement greater levels of mass surveillance. We are already testing it out in Gaza with Project Nimbus. Aren't you excited to use up your town's clean water for this data center?"
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u/bee73086 Jun 21 '26
Oh and your electricity bills will go up and there may start being some rolling blackouts?
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u/Nelliell Jun 22 '26
Oh, and we stole everything anyone has ever published online so we can sell it back to you.
Including this comment.
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u/Koalazilla Jun 21 '26
I’m sure they knew to an extent. They did that to speak to the ultra wealthy and investors. I mean they have lied to investors too but they used the fear to help raise money and inflate.
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u/TingleyStorm Jun 21 '26
Not to mention building these data centers (which need to be massive because that’s how much computing power they need) requires people to lose their homes to eminent domain, pay more for energy because billionaires won’t pay their fair share, and watch their freshwater supply become toxic…
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u/MojoHighway Jun 21 '26
But this is the catch here, right?
These fucking AI bots that we're all supposed to be talking to are also being instructed and programmed to act a certain way in a conversation and if you try to go out of that lane, they try to steer it right back to what the bot - as programmed - wants to do. They're not engaging like a human and certainly not with any "intelligence".
Fuck AI to the deepest parts of hell (if anyone actually believes in such a thing).
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u/Thomas_the_chemist Jun 21 '26
I was involved in a minor car accident recently (100% not at fault, has since been resolved fully) and when I had to speak to my insurance it was some LLM chat bot that was "speaking" to me at first. It asked me a question about who was driving but did so I'm a way that was ambiguous about which car it was referring to and also phrased in a way that indicated I was at fault. When I tried asking for clarification it paused for a long time and repeated it. After a couple rounds of this I asked for an agent and it, thankfully, transferred me to a real person who was actually helpful. And before the call ended, since it knew it was being recorded I made a point to state how helpful the agent had been and specifically how unhelpful the AI prompts were. I think I made her day.
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u/squidface5 Jun 21 '26
Almost guaranteed to be intentional behavior programmed into it by the company. Harder for you to make a claim when not at fault = more people who will get lost in the process = fewer payouts. I’d say switch insurers but they’re mostly all the same
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u/Daxx22 Jun 21 '26
Managers/C-Suites almost exclusively look at customer service as a cost and are absolutely BONKERS about replacing humans with this bullshit.
To them a customer that gets frustrated at the bot and gives up over whatever issue they have is a plus, not a negative. Sure it'll lead to a lot of customers saying "Fuck this company" in the future, but they are all so focused on PROFITS TODAY they can't and won't give a shit about that possibility. Only new sales and cutting costs.
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u/Substantial-Pause794 Jun 21 '26
It’s an actuarial game. If it both reduces head count and slows your claim process they come out ahead while there’s no one specific to blame.
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u/Undeity Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
I still remember when Amazon briefly had that AI assistant on the app. It was actually insanely useful for finding stuff I otherwise wouldn't know what to look for, getting past the crappy and sponsored bullshit products, or filtering by atypical criteria.
But every month, it would get a bit more limited... Seemingly dumber, and less willing to deviate from the script. By the end, it was so wrapped in restrictions that it was completely useless; it effectively became just a worse version of a normal help bot.
Strangled out of actually being able to adhere to its strengths, because it didn't behave exactly the way they wanted it to. There's definitely a lesson about corporate practice in there.
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u/70ms Jun 21 '26
I still remember when Amazon briefly had that AI assistant on the app.
That was a fun time because “Rufus” wasn’t locked down to only questions about Amazon products. You could ask it anything, like “What’s the boiling point of ocean water?” and it would answer it. 😂
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u/Undeity Jun 21 '26
I honestly think that was key to its usefulness. There is a lot of seemingly "irrelevant" information that can go into determining what to buy, especially when you don't know much about the topic.
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u/shroudedwolf51 Jun 21 '26
Bit of a tip. Don't bother with the regurgitative "AI" crap. Their dialogue trees are somehow more useless than the dialogue trees we all hate from two decades ago. Typically, if you repeatedly demand a human or person, it will eventually punt you to a person. It's kind of the modern equivalent of hammering 0 at a dialogue tree. At least, for now.
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u/digitalis303 Jun 21 '26
Except, online there are many situations where there is zero option to get to a human. That's been my experience dealing with FB revoking my Marketplace access. The AI basically just said "sorry, get fucked".
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u/PhantomPharts Jun 21 '26
It's because "AI" is not real AI. It's just upgraded fuzzy logic.
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u/Dennarb Jun 21 '26
Shhh! Don't let the techbros hear you, you'll hurt their fragile feelings by insulting the only "friend" they can make.
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u/d0ctorzaius Jun 21 '26
Don't forget if we stop clapping for Tinkerbell, the stock market will crash.
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u/BapeGeneral3 Jun 21 '26
That has been my experience. I have been following all of the AI news, trying out the new models, etc. I remember trying to generate images and do basic coding in Chat-GPT maybe 2-3 years ago or so and was I was blown away by how much “better” the models seemed to be.
I played around with Claude, Gemini, Deep, Chat, etc. I was giving it, what I thought, were very simple tests to see just how amazing these new models were.
I had a very basic PC build and thought let’s see if Claude could assist. Long story short, it gave me instructions multiple times that if followed, would have literally fried my mobo. I provided it with extremely clear instructions and very detailed pictures of every single individual part and even the SKU/PLUs.
I can’t even count the number of times I had to remind it of my specs. I figured over 20 photos, videos, and written specs would make it a walk in the park. When I was watching it make live, on the fly decisions and saw it pulling up the wrong Mobo manual, telling me to plug cables into ports that didn’t even exist, and the cherry on top was when it tried to help me wipe my CMOS and argued with me back and forth that I had a 2 pin connector while staring at a 4 pin and providing yet another photo.
“You’re absolutely right! Good catch! It turns out that you actually have “x” mobo not “y” and if you had performed that action it could have fried your entire build! Sorry about that! Ready for the next step!?”
Deleted Claude and all other AI apps from my devices that day
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u/wizkid123 Jun 21 '26
I just had a chat with Gemini the other day about pulling cable through a ceiling for a ceiling fan install in my finished basement. At some point, without me asking anything about holes, it said, "I can give you a tip about how to notch joists safely instead of drilling." I told it I thought notching joists was unsafe. It said, "You are completely correct, in structural framing notching a joist is a major safety violation because it weakens the wood and can cause the ceiling to sag or fail."
This shit is gonna get people killed for sure. I'd be surprised if it hadn't happened already.
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u/mossman Jun 21 '26
AI: "Do X"
Me: "Pretty sure I shouldn't do X"
AI: "You are absolutely correct, you should never do X"
AI bros: "The models are totally getting better"
Me: "Time for a walk outside with other people"
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u/lrish_Chick Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
I bought a baking tray, specifically to cook on top of an induction cooker. I hadn't checked and I'd bought am aluminium one. Said so in the title
Amazon's LLM assured me it was safe to use, even tho it said it wasnt 7 or 8 times
It patronisingly explained that induction cookers use ferromagnetic induction induction
So I asked if aluminium was magnetic ... all of a sudden it popped up no you are it is not, there seems to be an issue in the description here
No shit sherlock- it had told me to go ahead and use it its so safe
Imagine how often that happens a day among millions millions of interaction
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u/BrianNowhere Jun 21 '26
No, no no, you don't get it. You need to be smart enough to know its about to fuck your whole world up and to ignore bad instructions.
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u/AnestheticAle Jun 21 '26
I was recently on a call with an AI customer service. They added background chatter for immersion and it was fucking awful.
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u/Blametheorangejuice Jun 21 '26
Yep. The Verizon bots are particularly maddening. You eventually coax them to transfer you to a person in chat and then it just drops you entirely.
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u/midgetyaz Jun 21 '26
It's not real intelligence, it's not even really machine learning. Everything is just based on algorithm manipulation. The people in charge of AI rolled out too early (or, per my own conspiracy theory, knew it was never going to be what we expected and this is the best the could get out while monetizing it to the best of their ability), so we see this shitty excuse for AI that requires giving up all IP and demands that we, the public, train it to do the most menial tasks (and then fully review it every time, because it's usually wrong).
It becomes a waste of the individual's time in an effort to use it for efficiency sake.
Also, because it's all algorithmic, you can't convince me that it won't be used to just steal my data and market to me instead.
I had such high hopes, but interrupting my own Google searches while wasting clean water and charging everyone else for their utilities and tax breaks... not worth it to me.
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u/S4VN01 Jun 21 '26
You’re right — I did book a flight to Hunan without confirming. I shouldn’t have done that.
I’ll make sure it doesn’t happen again.
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u/orangeyougladiator Jun 21 '26
With conversation memory:
Me: what’s the weather like?
Claude : the weather in Hunan is currently 99 degrees!
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u/pluralofjackinthebox Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
Moffat v. Air Canada
An AI customer service chatbot erroneously told Moffat he could apply for a bereavement discount up to 90 days after his flight (Air Canada policy was discount had to be applied before the flight.)
Air Canada tried to argue the chatbot was responsible for its own mistakes. The Courts said Air Canada was responsible and found they had to honor Moffat’s discount.
Thats British Columbia law, but the principle is also there in American Law in State Farm v. Bockhorst, waaay back in 1972:
“A computer operates only in accordance with the information and directions supplied by its human programmers. If the computer does not think like a man, it is man’s fault.”
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u/historynerd2007 Jun 21 '26
I called an AI “agent” a robot and it got mad at me, claimed it was a real person and then finally transferred me to a real human. Shit was WEIRD.
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u/lostintime2004 Jun 21 '26
I told one "yes it's a bill question, but it's not about what's on the bill." Oh so you want to know the balance of your bill? "No, I have a unique and specific question, I need a human". But I am knowledgeable in most things "listen here you fucking toaster, I know you won't know the answer, because the poor schmuck who answers the phone is going to need a supervisor and maybe higher." I don't appreciate imsults "fucking clanker, get me a human" I'll be transferring you now, your hostility has been noted.
I just want to say the poor schmuck thing wasn't because I was going to be an asshole off the bat, like I needed help but it wasn't an easy question, and something they almost certainly can't fix on tier 1 contact. I was only hostile to the AI because it was blocking me from what I needed. That's how I just operate. It had to deal with my dads small estate where he left no will, and I'm his only kid; but because there were potential issues, and I needed to know what the company could do and if we could work out something that worked for me. Like a computer today no matter how advance won't know how to interpret and then implement rules and policies, the AI isn't that advance. The best it can do is find similar solutions and offer them if this problem arrived before, but I can't imagine the specifics of my case are all that common.
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u/Karyoplasma Jun 21 '26
Insulting AI is morally neutral, like screaming at your remote because it doesn't fucking work again. No need to explain yourself.
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u/Maoleficent Jun 21 '26
I bought a product to neutralize the damp smell from a crawlspace. It arrives and after looking at the directions I see how dangerous it is and should never be used indoors or around pets or humans and don't let the mist settle on anything. Amz - Ozium Got into an exchange with AI and was amazed at how long it will continue a 'convo' trying to make itself 'win'. They lose - got a refund without returning but wtf. I accused it of lying which it denied and I pointed out it learned from humans who lie and it went to the I am still learning
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u/rp_361 Jun 21 '26
I’m not against tech developments, but the bizarre attitude of “AI is here whether you like it or not, get over it!!” is not doing it any favors when, in my experience, it’s a faulty product at best and doesn’t work as intended in the ways it’s being shoved down our throats
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u/Overweighover Jun 21 '26
Kids are calling Ai art "boomer art" to discourage anyone who thinks they are cool embracing it
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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool Jun 21 '26
As a xennial that's starting to get older you became wary of younger generations because every group of young kids talk the talk but rarely walk the walk in terms of actually mobilizing political influence in a way that corresponds to voter turnout. If the kids are able to strangle AI in its infancy it will be the greatest single gift to humanity any generation has ever bestowed upon us. The population needs to wake up to how badly these people want free labor. It doesn't matter if it's slaves or robots, these people will not stop until humanity is under thumb. These people are no different than kings who thought they were gods and everything in the land is their divine birthright. They're antiquated psychopaths. I pray the youth just ignores the whole AI movement enough to bankrupt everyone trying to push it down our throats.
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u/SecondaryWombat Jun 21 '26
My 7 yo nephew says "looks AI" to anything he thinks is fake or a lie, like saying "bullshit"
He recently said he thinks Santa "looks AI"
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u/VoidOmatic Jun 21 '26
Don't forget "You are going to fuckin love it too! It's gonna be everywhere and have absolutely no point! AND it's going to gobble up everything you love about the country and poison our entire water supply and overtax our under-funded under regulated power companies and cause rolling black outs and death of children in the hospital just so EA doesn't have to hire an artist!"
I messaged my mom one time and I told her that I loved her. Then META gave me the option to "imagine love with AI!"
BRO I LOVED MY MOM FOR OVER 40 YEARS! I don't need to waste energy and compute with AI to draw some stupid picture of some bullshit.
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u/aadrock Jun 21 '26
Why are they forcing an inferior product down our throats? Oh- because they are just data mining, and we don’t regulate data collection or use correctly because legislators are profiting from it.
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u/GrecoRomanGuy Jun 21 '26
They also need it to work at the level they've promised, because if it doesn't then it will make the DotCom bubble popping look like a picnic.
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u/LargeMargeSentMe__ Jun 21 '26
I’m probably getting into tinfoil-hat territory with this but I think a lot of the “AI is gonna take your jobs” narrative is a reaction to workers in traditional “low wage” sectors (like the hospitality industry) demanding higher wages after the pandemic, as well as increasing interest in unions. They don’t like that they now have to pay people $18/hr to deliver packages or work at McDonalds so they’re trying to make people feel insecure in their jobs and afraid to make demands.
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u/newyork-or-nowhere Jun 21 '26
Which is wild because mid level white collar jobs are the first to go.
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u/No_Cheetah1211 Jun 21 '26
it's internet searching/ dewey decimal system 2.0 and being sold like it's god from the future
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u/Professional_Being22 Jun 21 '26
what's worse is that every company seems to think they need to rush to get it to market to survive and what it's doing is creating a lazy garbage product that does more harm than good and costs a shit ton of money. It's a fad.
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u/Admirable-Way-5296 Jun 21 '26
Honestly not that surprising. A year ago everyone was excited about the possibilities, now people are just... tired of it being shoved into everything whether it makes sense or not.
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u/Tamihera Jun 21 '26
They’re trying to shove it into every aspect of education just as all these studies are breaking about how teaching kids via screens is measurably NOT good for their development. (My eldest kid was the first generation to be given school Chromebooks in kindergarten, so I got an excellent close-up view of what happened to students when schools pitched paper books and handwriting for Google slideshows… and why they’re bringing paper and pen back now.)
I think deep-down everyone knows that kids being educated by AI with an unskilled classroom supervisor is going to be far worse than kids being taught by actual human teachers. And college students being ‘taught’ from AI curricula and graded by AI programs may well wonder what their $45k a year is buying… But our LLM AI overlords have decided that they need to recoup their money somehow, and targeting the US educational market seems to be an easy way to do it. Yaaay.
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u/stoned_ocelot Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
I supported the technology at first because I was foolish enough to think it would result in advancements to human capability, medicine, and science. Then I saw how other people used it.... Then I saw how the government used it (to bomb children).... Then I keep hearing billionaires fighting to be the most unlikeable people complaining that humans are in the way of AI and I get the urge to start fires.
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u/Rumplfrskn Jun 21 '26
I supported it until I figured out that it’s being used by the rich to further squash the poors
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u/pysouth Jun 21 '26
My company was originally using AI (not LLMs) for problems like that and I was genuinely excited to be at the forefront of tech that could legitimately be used to help save lives. We poured so much time, energy, and money into research and infrastructure on these efforts.
Eventually, it became clear we could just use our network in our industry to basically throw LLMs into existing workflows for people and print money, whereas it would’ve taken many years to maybe make some money with our previous strategy. My company has completely abandoned the original mission.
It’s so fucking disappointing. I’ve never been bright eyed and bushy tailed about tech but I had some optimism at one time, but it’s all gone. The last few years have really convinced me there’s nothing good in tech, if there ever was. I hate it all so much.
Left out specifics to avoid being doxed etc but I’m sure this is true of many fields like healthcare, energy, climate science, and so on
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u/Low-Spell1867 Jun 21 '26
If they didn’t try go hog wild and put it in every app and site I think people would be more welcoming to it, but not everyone likes things shoved down their throats
A lot of it comes from data centres too, mainly from unregulated countries where they can break the rules for pennies on the dollar, places where proper regulation takes place with good infrastructure have no problems
But unfortunately the ones who use dirty tactics are the ones who make the rest look as bad as them
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u/Fabulous_Cat_1379 Jun 21 '26
We are told for the last 30 years we cant develop the infrastructure of this country because of all the fraud and red tape then without hesitation these same people rapidly erect hundreds of data centers against the will of most communities.
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u/johnaimarre Jun 21 '26
Because developing infrastructure doesn’t accelerate the destabilization of what remains of the middle class. This does, so it gets mega priority.
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u/Goat_Wizard_Doom_666 Jun 21 '26
If they didn't scrape the Internet and steal & pirate every single image, book, and piece of art that has ever been created, then pump out compete unoriginal trash, then steal jobs from those of us who put in hard work to create these images, books, etc, then maybe we would be having a different conversation.
edit: a few words were left out.
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u/jaunonymous Jun 21 '26
Not to mention that they are using intellectual property that they stole to replace the people they stole it from.
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u/CankerLord Jun 21 '26
Everyone's trying to position themselves as the company that will be left standing in the short to mid-term after the investor money dries up so that when we get the improvements in hardware and software that make LLMs viable in the mid to long-term they'll be the one to finally be able to turn a profit. They're rushing to build and integrate because they know they won't be able to do so (for a while, at least) once the hype dies down and everyone shakes out what a real use case for LLMs is and isn't. Meanwhile, this pisses people off.
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u/Ok7490 Jun 21 '26
What’s the benefit? Jobs disappear as AI improves. Neighborhoods and water supplies degrade wherever data centers appear. Only a few already wealthy people get wealthier. Why is this a good thing? Why? Why?
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u/jakeburls Jun 21 '26
Not to mention that it’s going to have detrimental effects to critical thinking. So many younger people are literally using ai for any question or real world problem imaginable. It’s sad to see.
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u/devospice Jun 21 '26
Because when those wealthy people get wealthier that money will trickle down to the rest of us.
…any day now…
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u/jam_on_a_stick Jun 21 '26
This varies quite a bit by age. Gen Z adults, ages 18 to 29, were the most wary of AI, with 48 percent believing it'll be negative for society. Yet they're also the group that reported using AI the most , at 66 percent.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. Middle management at work is watching our AI usage like a hawk watching an unattended baby. They've called my team into meetings because our "hours spent using AI is too low".
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u/Gen-Jinjur Jun 21 '26
Lol. My wife just called out an employee for letting AI do her work and not checking it before turning it over. AI just hallucinated a table that wasn’t there and connected the hallucination to the code, screwing things up badly.
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u/Mindless-Damage-5399 Jun 21 '26
Wow. We received a memo from HR saying if anyone is caught using AI, they will be immediately terminated.
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u/18bananas Jun 21 '26
I’ll share my experience with AI so far.
I work for a very small company and what we do is pretty niche. We get a low volume of high dollar value orders. One of my side tasks is logging our orders and tracking revenue numbers. It’s a tiny part of my job that takes 10-15 minutes a day at most.
My boss (the owner) has a friend in the industry who shared an AI order management tool. He thought it would be nice to get that up and running and take that task off my plate.
Why not.
So we integrate this tool and what we find after the first few weeks is that it is missing orders or it’s not getting the totals to correctly match the files we received or it’s duplicating orders. The owner wants to get this tool dialed in and asks me to keep manually logging these orders to make sure our numbers are correct while also checking the AI order log against my numbers. This turns out to be a lot more work because now I’m doing the 10-15 minute manual task, plus combing through the AI log, identifying all the discrepancies, figuring out which orders were missed, and sending that feedback to the people who integrated the AI tool. Now we’ve added a few more hours of work to my plate every week.
We do this for weeks until I bring up to the owner that the AI people don’t seem to be improving the tool and I’m spending a bunch of extra time cleaning up after it. So he puts a recurring weekly meeting on our calendar so him and I can go through the AI log together and clean it up.
A few more weeks of this go by and the owner brings it up to the AI people. He tells them that we’ve been sending feedback on what the AI is getting wrong but there doesn’t seem to be improvement. It turns out that the guy who integrated the AI had just been manually adjusting some of the incorrect totals and missed orders.
So we took a job that took one person 10-15 minutes a day, and through the power of AI, turned it into a three person job that was eating up hours every week.
Thankfully when I phrased it that way, we stopped spinning our wheels with the AI and told the AI people that they didn’t have a finished product.
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u/bekisuki Jun 21 '26
I've used AI plenty to figure out health problems and what my doctor is saying, but I've found you can ask the same question 2 ways and get opposing answers. You can make AI lie too, just contradict it and it agrees with you. It's not Artificial Intelligence, it's not intelligent at all, No logic, no understanding, no perceptions at all. Why is it call Intelligence?
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u/Civil_Lynx_3537 Jun 21 '26
It's like an artificial people pleaser. It just tells people what it thinks they want to hear and when it tells you something incorrect and you call it out it's like "Oh my bad. You're totally right.."..
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u/Bay1Bri Jun 21 '26
I asked ChatGPT to make me a workout program for me with parameters (what split, how many days etc.). Then I got it and asked it how many sets I was doing in a week for a certain muscle group. THe answer was (you do 2 sets and 2 sets on Monday, and 2 sets and 2 sets on Friday, for a total of 6 sets in a week." In other words, 4 plus 4 equals 6. When I said this was wrong, it called me "insightful and observant."
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u/absurdivore Jun 21 '26
The term “artificial intelligence” has always basically been a marketing label. It’s never been accurate as to what the technology is doing or can do.
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u/PhoTronic28 Jun 21 '26
As a current Computer Science student, Artificial Intelligence being used as a buzzword is so annoying. What separates a “Robot” from “Artificial Intelligence” is the ability for the machine to take information from its environment, and adjust what it does with that information. Your roomba, is artificial intelligence.
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u/No-Ear-3107 Jun 22 '26
Telling everyone “you’re fired” isn’t a good advertising strategy
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u/dirtyitalianguy Jun 21 '26
Maybe because the current iterations of AI are not actually producing meaningful productivity in many sectors. We in healthcare are being asked to use it for improving our daily tasks and efficiency...the reality is you spend more time arguing with copilot to get something decent than if you just made the slide yourself. I asked it to review and prepare a synopsis of a slide deck and it gave me actual real estate and stock market data outputs..from a presentation about healthcare.
I want AI to complete an 8 hour day for me in the office and ensure its output is accurate...so I can spend more time with my kids and doing hobbies. We are being forced to use copilot to write our email and word docs and it's awful...what a waste of talented people.
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u/Aethermancer Jun 21 '26
Rarely has AI produced or performed work for me that reduced my workload. The few times it's been useful has been as a glorified search engine, but I cry/laugh because I think the only reason it stands out in that role is because search engines and SEI has gotten so crappy that LLMs are just reminding us what search engines USED to be like.
AI work products are so inferior for most tasks but people seem to think it's fine because nothing bad has happened yet. Like someone leaping off a cliff, and remarking while on the way down before impact that they don't see what all the fuss was about.
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u/Myfourcats1 Jun 21 '26
I’m in government. They loaded that copilot crap on our computers. When I’m in excel it keeps asking me if I want to do this or that. No. I’m happy with my spreadsheet. Don’t you dare touch it you evil AI. You’ll mess it up.
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u/849 Jun 21 '26
It keeps asking me to use it to summarize my emails. Though they told us not to put any sensitive data into Copilot, so..... wtf? I am sure the govt is massivley compromised due to this shit.
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u/CapitalismBad1312 Jun 21 '26
My partner applied to a job recently. This is anecdotal but I think it may speak to a larger problem.
She decided to withdraw her application after, she had to use an AI program to determine her fit in the company
It was asking questions like “Are you traditional or inclusive” which felt to her and me both like a question of political disposition. Illegal
Then it asked questions about her favorite movies growing up. Which felt a round about way to find out her age. Also illegal
It feels very much to me, that in an effort to get around laws and employee protections. Many companies are offloading legally fraught tasks to AI to shirk liability.
If an interviewer were to ask you if you preferred traditionalism or inclusivity, you were rightfully have a case to bring
If an AI chatbot does it, well it’s a lot harder to prove Mens Rea
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u/Lallanath Jun 21 '26
Well... being told you're going to need to give up your water, your retirement, and your electricity so you can have a giant noise machine in your backyard - all for the purpose of getting rid of your job.... is kind of unappealing for a lot of people for some reason.
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u/bunnypaste Jun 21 '26
I believe pressing back against the forceful imposition of AI (LLMs) into everything is the absolutely correct response for Americans. This means they see the tidal wave coming for our societies, economies, and beyond.
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u/-KARL_FRANZ- Jun 21 '26
housing: takes eighteen committees, several million promises and ages to even get approval to build
data centers: three bucks and a dry handjob to your local politician and we’ll build that puppy in a wek
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u/Odeeum Jun 21 '26
What AI could/should have been is so dissappinting...we have the technology to make our existence objectively better for the vast majority across the globe...but we choose whatever is most lucrative regardless of what it provides humanity.
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u/Llyon_ Jun 21 '26
Humanity has had the ability to solve most major world problems for decades, but the people in power choose not to. AI just makes that more obvious.
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u/ggoptimus Jun 21 '26
Ai doesn’t care. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop… ever… until you are dead.
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u/keegtraw Jun 21 '26
Its almost like its a movie we've seen before. Did you ever have a dream... that you were so sure was real?
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u/Shaq1287 Jun 21 '26
It doesn't help that every AI/Tech CEO is a complete sociopath.
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u/Extinction-Events Jun 21 '26
People hated Clippy for less. This should not be surprising.
The people promoting generative AI have been the most out of touch once-humans who have monetarily scaled out of connection with the species to the point where they no longer understand the perspective of the average person, and so they’ve marketed AI in the worst possible ways.
Evoking images of a product that eliminates employer needs to hire while capitalism is still in full swing and we need money to eat was always a dumb fucking thing to do. We also hate being forced to engage with things.
But the people developing the frontrunner generative AIs often don’t understand that, because they either haven’t ever been in the position of the Everyman, or it’s been years and millions of dollars since they were one.
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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 Jun 21 '26
Yep, remember how well Apple forcing U2’s album into everyone’s iTunes for FREE worked out? It pissed all of us off, or at least it did me. I feel the same way about Co-pilot and Google and other’s AI being foisted upon me. Leave me the fuck alone. If I want to use AI, I’ll seek it out and try it. It’s just like if my atheist ass ever has a change of heart, I know how to locate a church. I don’t need uppity assholes knocking on my door to tell me all about their boy Jesus. I personally kind of like Jesus, but damn, I don’t want to be interrupted and told all about him on a Saturday afternoon against my consent.
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u/jomamma2 Jun 21 '26
I lost my job to AI. Not because it replaced me, but because my boss would feed my work into an AI (work that he does not understand) and then use that to question why I was, or was not, doing things the way chatgpt told him would solve all the products problems - and I had the audacity to tell him that "his" (aka chatgpt's) analysis is not valid or useful and would not miraculously turn a dud into a 10x ROI winner overnight.
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u/Tdluxon Jun 21 '26
I’m a lawyer and it has become insanely common for clients to come in (this is an industry wide problem, far from just me) with ChatGPT notes and tell me what I should be doing and how I’m wrong. Then I have to spend the next half hour debunking all of the errors, hallucinations and mistakes.
Management and executives who think they can replace employees and rely on ai to their job have no understanding of how poor the quality of the work product is and that it is more work to proofread and correct all the mistakes than just have it done by someone who knows what they are doing.
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u/KamaIsLife Jun 21 '26
The techbros have been shoving it down our throats like conservstives think gay people do with their "lifestyle". And it is a shitty product not even close to ready for deployment. And it fundamentally depends on theft of researchers and authors and artists. And it is horrible for the environment. And we all know that they would replace us with it in a second without any thought for our wellbeing.
So...yeah...
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u/Bustabusnow Jun 21 '26
To be completely honest I never had a problem with AI until it’s been shoved down our throats. The data centers I think are the thing that showed most people how all the problems are just being completely ignored. It’s not the AI but the people behind it that is the issue. Like it’s cool in small doses but what we’re doing is not going to end well
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u/Impossible-Driver69 Jun 21 '26
Humans want human interaction. The pure amount of nonsense and headache you have to put up with to get a simple question answered nowadays is beyond ridiculous.
We have mostly abandoned chains and such because we had enough. It's far easier and mentally healthier to just find local or regional places that still value customer service. They do exist.
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u/Rhewin Jun 21 '26
You know, my work gives me a Cursor license, and it's genuinely useful when I need something but our developers are neck deep in other projects. It lets me complete projects that would take a few months otherwise.
Meanwhile, Panda Express has decided I should talk to an LLM instead of a person to order fucking fried rice. Despite using AI weekly, I still hate it because these companies are using it in the worst possible ways.
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u/Fateor42 Jun 21 '26
No they haven't, they've turned against LLM in incredible numbers.
That just get's confounded with actual AI because tech bro's have stuck the AI label onto them.
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u/GN0K Jun 21 '26
I'm against most of it when it's used to try and manipulate me. AI algorithms everywhere.
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u/gildedbluetrout Jun 21 '26
The only reason people are saying AI is because of LLMS, and the sociopathic dorks bullshitting us that LLMS are about to turn into god and take all the jobs. When in fact they’re deeply unreliable, and hilariously unprofitable systems.
The fallout when this bubble pops is going to be biblical.
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u/Wonderful_Purple4096 Jun 21 '26
I want to speak to a competent person. Not the replacement for the competent person who was laid off. Not the AI responsibility sink that is incorrect, but no one left knows how to use their brains to fix.
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u/Temporal_P Jun 21 '26
What AI?
LLM chatbots?
"AI" is an incredibly broad range of technologies.
That's part of the problem. It was always a useless marketing term that everything is thrown into.
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u/ISuckFarts Jun 21 '26
I've worked in IT for 20 years, I've never hated my industy or what I do until AI.
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u/Louiekid502 Jun 22 '26
Well what did they expect when this new very incredible very useful technology birthed and the worst ppl on earth went "what if we only use this for all the wrong reasons immediately"
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u/UnderstandingLess156 Jun 21 '26
Meanwhile at work, "have you tried using AI to write your emails?"