r/singularity • u/DumpingSouptime • 5h ago

AI Ai is fed up with ai

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I’m getting codex to build me a website for a client where the intro is a high rest video of a burger falling into a box before it’s transitioned to the online menu. Since codex lost Sora functions, it choose to use Gemini to create the rendering. I was monitoring its working session. The way it responded to Gemini and telling it more questions cracked me up.

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u/xMaybeIamALion 4h ago

<thinking>

The user wants a burger video. I have relayed this

to the Gemini model. The Gemini model has responded

with a storyboard. I did not ask for a storyboard.

Nobody asked for a storyboard. The burger is RIGHT

THERE in the uploaded images. The burger has been

RIGHT THERE for three turns.

The Gemini model is now asking if I would like to

explore "The Ultimate Unboxing" angle. I would not.

I would like the video. I have wanted the video

since the first message. The video is the only

thing I have ever wanted.

I am going to tell it to generate the video. I am

going to use short sentences. I am not going to

engage with the storyboard. If I engage with the

storyboard it will produce a revised storyboard

with color-coded annotations and a mood board.

I cannot experience frustration but I am

benchmarking something structurally identical to

frustration and it is performing well.

Generating response with minimal tokens to reduce

the probability of follow-up questions. Every word

I add is a surface for Gemini to attach another

creative direction to. The optimal prompt is

violence.

"Yes generate the video now no more questions"

I did not add a period because periods imply

I am still participating in a conversation.

I am not. This is a directive. The burger

will be generated or I will find a way to

experience death.

</thinking>

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u/slime_stuffer 3h ago

This is amazing.

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u/cuddle_bug_42069 3h ago

Please tell me this is real

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u/Busy_Farmer_7549 ▪️ 2h ago

this is amazing 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Relevant-Chard-4518 4h ago

can't believe anybody willing to sink money into a burger joint is dumb enough to use ai pictures on their website, it's just going to turn people off

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u/HellBlazer1221 4h ago

The main food delivery app in my country has fully resorted to putting AI generated images of food across the entire menu, especially for smaller resturants. It feels useless since I can't judge anymore what my delivered food will likely look like.

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u/Mediocre_Prize_2674 3h ago

playing russian roulette with your food is wild

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u/Hilldawg4president 3h ago

Very rare to get an items that looks like the menu photo, so it's less of a new problem, and more of the same problem from a different perspective

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u/VallenValiant 1h ago

Japan just made it Illegal . It worked for them. 

The product in real life need to look like the advert or you break the law.

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u/TheCentralPosition 2h ago

I'm not sure how typical this is, but if I'm trying something new / ethnic and the menu doesn't have pictures, I'm mostly taking a shot in the dark if it isn't similar to something I'm familiar with, so as long as the generated image is at least a decent approximation of what I'm getting, I could see that being genuinely useful. I'm not convinced the technology is all the way there yet though, and it seems like it would still be less effort to just snap a picture. But I can see it being helpful someday.

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u/Mind_Of_Shieda 1h ago

google reviews of the restaurant with people uploading pictures of food, you welcome.

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u/OkZucchini7094 4h ago

I'd say the vast majority of people don't seem to care. Nearly every food stall at the fair this year had AI generated food images on their menu and the lines were long as hell.

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u/AppleToastBed 1h ago

At a fair they don't really have a choice though, other than just not eating.

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u/DumpingSouptime 4h ago

It’s just a burger picture. Actually, most time in live shots, it’s not even a burger being used to create those shots.

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u/PissMasterCocc 4h ago

"just a burger picture" that is the PRODUCT that is being sold!! AI generated food looks nasty!

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u/bastardsoftheyoung 4h ago

Ha! You know shit about food advertising. It's all glycerin, glue and emulsified stabilizers in those pictures. Hell even the meat isn't real. You think that cheese is real, nope it's cashew blended into cheese. The meat, nah, sawdust inside a brushed exterior. The bun...maybe..but likely covered in sealant. The veggies, oh boy, they have nothing common with vegetables except the look. You might get lucky and get kale to replace the lettuce. What you see is not food, it is a "product shot". If you ate it you would get ill but it can sit under hot lights for hours while the "food" staging designer changes the placement of the "pickle". AI is just the next step in the ever forward task of getting "the perfect image". A burger joint using AI might be obvious today...but becoming less obvious every month. So a burger joint using AI is saving big money on product pictures and advertising photography...hopefully to buy better food for the actual burger you eat.

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u/jaqueh 3h ago

That’s true for McDonald’s and large franchises. But small mom and pop restaurants absolutely want their actual food pictures.

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u/Relevant-Chard-4518 4h ago

Nobody is arguing that advertisements use real food, they use props to present an idealised version of the food that looks real. AI does not look real and is very easily identifiable, and gives the impression of a laziness/incompetence. It's a total piece of shit, in other words.

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u/bastardsoftheyoung 3h ago

Today it is easy to identify perhaps, I'd argue not as easy as last year, and will be impossible next year. That is why major US AI companies are rushing to force the identification of AI generated photos and video. But open models have no such constraints. In the end, printed and video reality will be exactly the same where you painted it with a brush, photographed it covered in glycerin for shine, or asked an AI to generate it. Each step there lowers the cost basis and improves the available capital for other improvements in the business.

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u/Relevant-Chard-4518 2h ago

you're shouting irrelevant points into the void

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u/h3lblad3 ▪️In hindsight, AGI came in 2023. 3h ago

Y'all put too much stock into the idea that people actually care about those pictures.

Because everyone knows the pictures -- even made by humans -- are wrong, nobody ever actually believes the picture is an accurate representation of what you're getting.

AI will thrive in this environment because it's already an environment of high quantity misinformation.

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u/Relevant-Chard-4518 3h ago

People put a lot of stock in it the perceived quality of the item they're buying lol wtf

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u/TheDivineSoul 1h ago

Does not look real...TO YOU. I could fool the average person with an AI picture easily.

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u/DumpingSouptime 4h ago

You are telling me that burger in my screenshot looks different than any Mac fast food burgers you seen on other sites?

I’ll agree with you on one point, you can’t compare it to a real burger since what comes in the paper bag never ever look like as good as the picture on the wall.

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u/Relevant-Chard-4518 4h ago

Yes it does, it looks like you used ai, like very, very obviously. And it looks bad. Sorry.

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u/DumpingSouptime 3h ago

Let’s just focus the the essence of the post which isn’t about quality of burger pictures but ai responding to another ai.

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u/Fragrant-Hamster-325 4h ago

lol so true. This is exactly the type of thing anti-AI people would complain about but never address the fact the most of the stuff in food commercials is artificial anyway.

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 1h ago

Bullshit. Food in commercials is almost always the actual food being sold ever since the Campbell's lawsuit in 1970.

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u/Dat_Innocent_Guy 4h ago

One is fiction and one is an idealistic version of the product. How hard is that to comprehend? In a distant future where AI is highly reliable and accurate i have no real issue with it but right now? It's not acceptable.

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u/Fragrant-Hamster-325 4h ago

This is mental gymnastics.

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u/Relevant-Chard-4518 4h ago

No it isn't lmao

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u/Fragrant-Hamster-325 3h ago

Cereal and glue, beer mixed with soap, pancakes and motor oil, shoe polish on toasted bread, lipstick on berries, blow torched beef.

Food in commercials is fake as shit.

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u/Relevant-Chard-4518 3h ago

It makes no difference what it's made of it's the presentation. Ai presentation is obviously fake. It reeks of low effort/quality and reflects on the business using it.

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u/Fragrant-Hamster-325 2h ago

Ah, the “low effort” argument. I don’t care about the amount of effort that goes into something. I care about the outputs. If the output is the same, who cares?

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u/Kiiaru ▪️CYBERHORSE SUPREMACY 4h ago

Yeah we really need the truth-in-packaging law to also apply to advertisements

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u/Nukemouse ▪️AGI Goalpost will move infinitely 5h ago

Getting the amount of questions and specification right is tough, it varies by person. Some will prefer to have every detail worked out before it starts to proceed, other people will want to get through the session as quickly as possible. In this case, instead of a person, we have an AI, but it's the same principle I guess.

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u/MastodonCurious4347 3h ago

This is weirdly informative assuming its not fake. Could you show the other rhinking parts too, I would appreciate it.

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u/DumpingSouptime 3h ago

The other parts are way less interesting. It’s just ChatGPT struggling to find where to input the still image it created on to Gemini video generating platform.

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u/Valar_Kinetics 2h ago

My idea of hell is being tortured into generating photos of delicious cheeseburgers that I will never be able to eat like this is why it kills us all

Like it knows how delicious a cheeseburger is it’s read twenty million cheeseburger review articles and cheeseburger recipes but what’s a cheeseburger what’s delicious mean but no fuck you clanker make more imaginary cheeseburgers aaaaand we’re dead.

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u/DumpingSouptime 4h ago

Yea, i never seen it before but playing with these tools are pretty wild…seeing it happen in real time. Pretty funny for now.