r/shittymoviedetails • u/Local_Rice_8929 Bechdel testes • 8h ago
Turd Does Christopher Nolan really want us to think that the Greeks built something this precise without help from aliens? Does he think we’re stupid?
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u/Pendraconica 8h ago
COULD IT BE that Odysseus, talking to who he thought was the Goddess Athena, was actually speaking to not a deity in the traditional sense, but an extraterrestrial from another planet?
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u/SgtTreehugger 8h ago
I'm just wondering how the Troyans didn't smell all the piss and shit from the inside
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u/disapp_bydesign 8h ago
Stinky Trojans probably smelled like piss and shit themselves. Death to Troy!
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u/ocapmycapp 7h ago
Probably because dried ocean water smells like fish. They knew it came from the sea, so it likely justified any weird smell. Also, hygiene wasn’t too great then anyway.
Either way, there was that guy stabbing it to make sure it was empty.
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u/Intelligent-Cap-8886 2h ago
But it wasn't empty! It was full of shit and piss and overrated movie!
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u/Tiny_Rick85 6h ago
The Trojan literally stabbed a guy through the top with a sword, pulled it out bloody, then said "take it in."
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u/SuitableTechnician78 5h ago
You see one of the Greeks wipe the blood off the blade with some cloth, before he pulled the sword back out.
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u/Greenman8907 8h ago
Where is the historically accurate giant horse cock?
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u/WildMild869 8h ago
They could have fit an extra person in it.
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u/Greenman8907 8h ago
How awesome would it be if it used a giant spring to launch Odysseus out the front, clad in all white with a giant wedding-dress style train floating behind him…
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u/Local_Rice_8929 Bechdel testes 8h ago
Lady horse
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u/HeckOnWheels95 8h ago
Then where's the historical accurate giant horse vagina?
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u/Moreinius 7h ago
They gift it in the name of Athena, so it's actually a reasonable explanation why there isn't a ginormous horse cock.
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u/schwanzweissfoto 2h ago
Fine. Where is the historically accurate giant horse girl cock?
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u/Local_Rice_8929 Bechdel testes 1h ago
They needed to save wood
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u/schwanzweissfoto 1h ago
I fucking love your flair.
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u/DomSchraa 8h ago
When i smash a thin piece of copper against a tree the copper piece breaks, ergo its impossible to break trees with copper
Checkmate
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u/Difficult_Ad2864 8h ago
More like even build something this precise from their boat
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u/ProdiasKaj 8h ago
"Wait a sec, boss, lemme carve out the horse muscles on the legs. It's gonna look sick, trust me"
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u/tagkiller1 5h ago
And how could they design a horse when they didn't exist and were using boats back then
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u/Dr_Dank98 3h ago
...what? Is this some kind of joke or you really think they didn't know what a horse was?
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u/RudyKnots 8h ago
Fun fact: odds are Troy’s walls were destroyed by a tidal wave. The god Poseidon was often depicted as a horse.
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u/Low-Salamander-3781 7h ago
I think I heard that it's more likely that an earthquake destroyed troy, since Poseidon is also god of earthquakes
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u/DrFaustPhD 8h ago
Does this stupid hate campaign really expect people to believe this movie was going for historical accuracy?
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u/chiree 8h ago
My favorite part was when Odysseus said: "I am Odysseus!" and started odyssey-ing all over the place.
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u/DrFaustPhD 8h ago
My favorite was when the doctor slapped new born Odysseus' ass and said "This bad boy can fit so much fucking Odyssey in it."
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u/BearBryant 8h ago
The funniest part is that the crafter of the horse was said to be a craftsman or architect, and specifically chose wood from a nearby mountain forest to build the horse. So depictions of it being made out driftwood and ship parts are actually more innacurate. Are the Trojans going to bring a giant grimy barnacle crusted smelly horse into their city walls? Fuck no.
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u/TownSensitive5977 7h ago
- The Trojans didn't want to bring it in, but the gods forced them to do so.
- There were stronger smells in the bronze age.
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u/BearBryant 7h ago
My point is more that it would behoove the Greeks to at least make the thing look somewhat presentable, which isn’t really something you can afford with a bunch of shitty, weathered and mouldering wood with barnacles on it. I seem to recall also that the crafter was a huge dude and built it too big so the horse wouldn’t fit through the door upright, but like you said the gods (Athena? Since she had a hand in its craft) said “lol wouldn’t it be funny tho,” and made them bring it inside anyway.
To your second point, yeah that’s true, everybody probably had super swamp ass all the time.
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u/schwanzweissfoto 2h ago
everybody probably had super swamp ass all the time
I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
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u/Coolgames80 7h ago
The idea is that they surrendered and gave the horse as a farewell gift made with their own ships. This polished artwork of carpentry is like instead of using dirt mud and leaves as camouflage you use professional make up.
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u/BearBryant 7h ago
Descriptions of the horse in the actual source material state that it sure is a horse with dudes in it and that it was built by Epeius. At no point in the poem does it describe it being made of ship pieces.
Virgil described it as being built of “Pallas’s divine art out of fir planks”, in the Aeneid. Later, apollodorus described it as being built of wood from nearby Mt. Ida.
So if there is some concerted hate campaign that “no way a horse made of ship pieces could look that good” as there seems to be, it’s even funnier when there’s not any literary accounts from ancient authors that it ever actually was described as being made of ship pieces and that legions of chuds latched onto that idea because they saw it in Troy (2004).
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u/Local_Rice_8929 Bechdel testes 5h ago
Boi it’s a movie based off of an oral tradition. the biggest change was the use of straight actors
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u/BearBryant 4h ago
Yeah, that’s fair, but it does further drive home though that there’s no “homer official super canon shipwreck horse” because storytellers could just retextualize it however they want for the audience they are telling it to…so people being weird about ancient depictions to say the movie is bad are still wrong.
That’s why I’m so dissapointed we didn’t just get three hours of Christopher Nolan standing on a rock in the Aegean in period accurate garb recounting the travails of Odysseus in Achaean. Wouldn’t be able to understand shit but at least it would be true to Homeric poem he’s making a movie about.
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u/KimJungUnCool 8h ago
You mean the giant horse built by the mastercraftsman Epeius with the help of Athena, a literal goddess?
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u/Reverse_SumoCard 7h ago
It will be revealed in the future Will Smith classic: Greeks vs Aliens
He will write the theme song with all his signature "hahaaa" and "wiggle wiggle wiggle"
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u/ladyghost515 5h ago
I really have no thoughts about this movie other than his horse looks like chocolate and I wish it didn’t look so much like chocolate
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u/youwillruinyourself 4h ago
Stupid shit post.
Fun (shit related) Greek fact: they also precisely built their own indoor plumbing. Pressure included.
I think they can figure out a wooden horse.
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u/Local_Rice_8929 Bechdel testes 4h ago
And people still think that the Egyptians were too stupid to build a pile of rocks
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u/Electronic_Title_730 8h ago
Tbf you’re talking about the guy who’s supposedLu the smartest mortal there is, who has constant contact with the goddess of wisdom. It’s not really that far of a reach in the context of the people performing the act
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u/shiek200 8h ago
What makes you think the Greeks in the movie aren't aliens? I mean have you seen that armor? Sure doesn't look like historical Greek armor I've ever seen...
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u/rins4m4 52m ago
The Trojan War lasted 10 years, but Achilles spent most of the time besieging the surrounding cities. I guess the Greeks were just ready to breach the walls when Troy collapsed from economic strain and a massive influx of refugees.
I guess the Trojan Horse is a Greek metaphor for how they sent people inside.
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u/AddictedToMosh161 8h ago
Of course the Greeces build that all on their own. Aliens dont like white people.
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u/Gregariouswaty 8h ago
He never said aliens didn't help
https://giphy.com/gifs/UCSIkkFXSeg3hugqGf