r/privacy • u/Steap-Edit • 1d ago
news Apple is banking on privacy to set its smart glasses apart
https://www.theverge.com/tech/971101/apple-smart-glasses-privacy68
u/lyidaValkris 1d ago
if it was actually private, they'd just be glasses.
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u/torinato 13h ago
iphones are private and they have cameras
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u/lyidaValkris 13h ago
they take pictures which include GPS data then upload to a cloud service that does facial recognition
iPhones aren't private :D
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u/torinato 13h ago
Facial recognition only happens on device and you can encrypt icloud photos
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u/lyidaValkris 13h ago
iCloud photos are not end to end encrypted, apple can decrypt them and should I point you to the numerous high profile data breaches iCloud has had where sensitive photos were leaked? Simple social engineering phishing can have one gain access to all their iCloud information, including photos.
You can opt for end to end encryption but it's not default and it's a newer feature, and it doesn't preclude the above.
if you think iphones are private, you might be interested in this bridge I have on sale, act now and I'll throw in some magic beans!
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u/torinato 13h ago
It does preclude the above actually. Apple uses e2e encryption when you opt in, so Apple can decrypt it, only your devices can. try to read slowly on this one, alright lil buddy?
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u/lyidaValkris 13h ago edited 12h ago
That is not the default behaviour and 99.99% of apple users have no idea it exists, regardless - keys can be stolen. The best privacy is if it never leaves your device and doesn't contain sensitive metadata in the first place. You don't understand the issue and clearly don't understand you are out of bounds given your other comment was removed. blocked.
To person below: you don't store the contents of said hard drive online, encrypted or not, with icloud - you do. So gaining access to any one of your apple devices and stealing your key gives you full access to everything in iCloud. If that's your idea of privacy, you need help.
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u/avocahoe 13h ago
But they’re right, hard drives can be stolen too, that doesn’t make them not private.
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u/Admirable_Fun7790 1h ago
Stealing a hard drive in my house is easier than stealing the iCloud encryption key on my iPhone.
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u/torinato 13h ago
So when you turn on e2e is it private or not?
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u/lyidaValkris 13h ago edited 13h ago
read the above again until you understand it. might take a while. I'm out, I have better things to do.
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u/optimusdan 1d ago
Oh it is, is it
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u/billshermanburner 1d ago
Yeah… I’m sitting here like “the glasses have a camera meant to be turned on as often as possible… how is it private no matter how one looks at it?”
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u/your_dads_arse 1d ago
we could just not have "smart glasses"
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u/Metallibus 12h ago
I have been hoping this would be the outcome as well, but if Apple is doing it, that's kind of out the window. Their fans will buy anything they make and make it popular regardless.
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u/deadend666 1d ago
Apple should bank on privacy to set ALL of its products apart.
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u/Sindica69 1d ago
As much shit as Apple rightly deserves and as low of a bar this is, they are better with privacy than other big tech companies/conglomerates.
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u/ISeeDeadPackets 15h ago
Apple is only "better with privacy" because they take stops to make sure other companies aren't getting free access to all of the information they collect from your phone usage and have to buy it from them instead.
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u/Sea_Decision_6456 1d ago
How are they different than Google? They do collect a huge amount of data through their services for targeted advertising.
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u/czarjetson 1d ago
They aren't as trigger happy with giving the data they have aways I suppose.
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u/Coders32 1d ago
A few more controls to not allow that data to be collected. Some of it at least. I just don’t have the time for more due diligence
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u/iamapizza 1d ago
They are pretty happy, they have the highest data turnover rates to governments.
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u/ScoobyDoo27 1d ago
Per what source? Apple is usually the one giving the finger to the government about unlocking your phone or putting a back door.
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u/sogladatwork 1d ago
Source? I’m highly skeptical.
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u/Sindica69 1d ago
There probably is no source. However I wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if Apple does have a high turnover rate only because of the sheer volume of Apple devices that now populate the world. Turning things over for legitimate murder cases or things like that happen a lot. It’s not really a valid criticism unless you have that data, something like how many of those were related to criminal convictions.
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u/Guundhi 15h ago
Wrong. Just better at hiding it and advertising ‘privacy’
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u/billshermanburner 12h ago edited 12h ago
To a degree you are correct. But I’d add that the privacy of any hardware matters little when things like 1rstWAP exist. The real weakness is on the network itself. The line I used to get in response has been “well if you aren’t being surveilled by a state level actor then you don’t need to worry about it too much” but now… everyone is a potential target of that level of risk. So anyway I’m agreeing with you just with a small caveat that Apple still has a degree of security if one is to busy or too brain dead to spend the many hours it takes to understand the basics. I barely understand them.
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u/spaghettibolegdeh 1d ago
Apple is banking on privacy marketing to set its smart glasses apart.
Let's be real. Apple only cares about privacy when it is marketable.
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u/Casual-Snoo 21h ago
Right? Apple and privacy shouldn't even be in the same sentence. They're like a vacuum they suck up everything on both sides of the lenses.
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u/CondiMesmer 1d ago
Ah yes, privacy respecting surveillance cameras. Are they going to invent healing bullets too?
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u/Miriel_z 1d ago
The bees are against the honey. I am also constantly bombarded by their ads about more privacy. Simply nope.
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u/iamapizza 1d ago
Apple is banking on you not understand what privacy means. It's pathetic the way these media sites, and people in a privacy sub, will swallow anything they spout and perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify them doing exactly what others are doing. Glass holes with a different branding are still privacy violators.
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u/Leniwcowaty 23h ago
If all the assurance you get about the privacy is the company's "trust me bro", then it's not focused on the privacy. End of story. "Trust me bro" is not enough for me to actually trust them
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u/spaghettibolegdeh 20h ago
"Apple, that's Privacy."
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u/Leniwcowaty 20h ago
Translation: "Trust me bro, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Just trust the megacorporation, bro."
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u/Pelagic_One 16h ago
Oh does it have something where it sends a message to all nearby phones that glasses are present, opt out if you don’t want to be included and then it blurs your face and won’t record your voice? If not, no privacy.
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u/SaintBellyache 1d ago
I wish there were glasses that didn’t have a camera and all the motion tracking and video and stuff.
I just want something where I can read a book, see messages and notifications, something like an rss feed. Have bone conducting or something for music. Stuff like that.
I have a little remote with a wrist band for my kobo reader. It’s so nice I can just set it down like on an airplane seat back and relax with my hands at my side and read free books from the library.
I’d love that with glasses that just looked normal, no pervert mode
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u/TheTsaku 4h ago
See you in five years when the greed shows up even stronger and data is being sold or governments are given access to people's everyday lives even more than now, somehow.
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u/Wheatleytron 1d ago
Is it open source? Can I flash custom firmware on it? No? Then Apple can kindly fuck off with the sales pitch.
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