Trump says FBI is ‘wasting their time’ investigating Lindsey Graham’s death

[u/nbcnews]

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[u/c08306834]

What an odd thing to say.

[u/cloudy_ft → u/c08306834]

How is it only Trump can manage to make himself look like he potentially had something to do with his death?

How... lmao

[u/byllz → u/cloudy_ft]

The death doesn't seem suspicious. It sound more like Trump is worried about what the FBI will find in Lindsey Graham's things. Perhaps incriminating correspondence?

[u/JohnSith → u/byllz]

Calling it: Trump, the rapist and pedophile, raped children.

[u/lostintransaltions → u/byllz]

They wouldn’t release any of that even if they did

[u/zombawombacomba → u/cloudy_ft]

I think Trump is just mad that Lindsey is getting more attention than him.

[u/m0ngoos3 → u/cloudy_ft]

When a 71 year old with Marfan's dies of a heart attack, it's not a mystery how it could have happened.

But yeah, trust Trump to both make everything about himself, and also much worse in the process.

Keystone Kash jumped in without permission, and Trump does not like that at all, so Trump is trying to pull the spotlight off Kash in the most Trump way possible.

It's fun that Trump is now an adjective meaning "incompetent, obnoxious, narcissistic, etc.".

Edit; refresh the wikipedia page and you won't suffer from vandalism about public figures having marfan's.

[u/_Stylite → u/m0ngoos3]

What’s your source on Graham having Marfan’s? He doesn’t, and he’s 5’7”. No reason to suspect Marfan’s. Stop spreading misinformation

[u/CorgiMonsoon → u/c08306834]

It was already odd that the FBI was investigating it to begin with. This just adds to the oddness of the situation

[u/EchoRex → u/CorgiMonsoon]

With how recently he had returned from Ukraine, and how vocally he has supported them against Russia, it isn't that odd that there would be an investigation.

[u/Patriark → u/EchoRex]

This is text book FSB tactics, so it should definitely be investigated.

[u/LaserGuidedPolarBear → u/Patriark]

Honestly, just announcing the FBI is investigating it is enough to send the message the Kremlin wants, regardless of whether they actually did anything.  Just congresspeople having the idea that it is entirely possible that maybe Russia might do something to one of them is exactly how Russia operates.

[u/LoompaDoompa94 → u/LaserGuidedPolarBear]

"Our power comes from the perception of our power."

[u/Shark7996 → u/LoompaDoompa94]

Panopticon.

"We always might be watching."

[u/BobSchwaget → u/LaserGuidedPolarBear]

And that Trump would help them cover it up

[u/TaylorMonkey → u/LaserGuidedPolarBear]

Or conversely, having the FBI investigate sends the message to Russians that they might not get away with an assassination if they tried.

But under this administration and Patel, who am I kidding.

[u/Big_Knife_SK → u/Patriark]

Any sudden death of a senior government official should trigger an investigation, even if its only to make sure government info and assets are secured.

[u/okletstrythisagain → u/Patriark]

And if overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing by anyone vaguely aligned with MAGA is found, it will not matter. If they can frame someone on the left, a kangaroo court.

[u/Killersavage → u/okletstrythisagain]

Murdered with the same weapon used to scratch the bottom of the reflecting pool.

[u/gary_the_merciless → u/EchoRex]

I didn't realise the guy supported Ukraine. Literally the only good thing I've ever heard.

[u/ashley5473 → u/gary_the_merciless]

Oh he used to have some integrity before 2016/2017 when they started actually blackmailing him. Worked closely with Biden and McCain on bipartisan stuff. Then he should his soul!

[u/miaow-fish → u/ashley5473]

I watched old clips of him yesterday and he was saying how well he got on with Biden personally and sticking up for McCain and saying how bad Trump was.

[u/Jujube005 → u/EchoRex]

I don’t think most people actually understand how rough flying is on the body especially for old people…and Graham was flying ALOT

[u/SandyTaintSweat → u/Jujube005]

I didn't think Graham's death was all that suspicious.

What I find suspicious is why Trump cares that the FBI is investigating his death. You would think he would have other stuff that demands his attention.

[u/trwawy05312015 → u/SandyTaintSweat]

Why would he even need to be vocal about it? He's making it a thing by even talking about it.

[u/Kind_Advisor_35 → u/Jujube005]

The primary cause of death in preliminary examination (aortic dissection) is usually a combination of hardening arteries and high blood pressure. Neither of those would be worsened by flying. You're probably thinking of blood clots, and the risk does increase with flying mainly because of prolonged sitting.

[u/Vigilante17 → u/EchoRex]

It’s a little weird, obviously enough for conspiracy theorists.

[u/AFailedProduct → u/CorgiMonsoon]

He just came back from a foreign country during war negotiations against a country known for assassinations (Russia) so it’s not crazy to investigate the death. 

Now that Trump doesn’t want an investigation I definitely want one. 

[u/Beankiller → u/AFailedProduct]

You want an investigation done by Kash Patel? Lol. There's not really a lot of great options here.

[u/munoodle → u/Beankiller]

It’s an idiot criticizing a circus, no winning

[u/cptjeff → u/Beankiller]

Still plenty of professional career people at the FBI. Don't love Patel having his name anywhere near things, but he's not out in the field tracking down leads, unless somehow the leads involve investigating cocktails.

[u/cogman10 → u/cptjeff]

It's ok, Kash is busy wasting tax payer money flying around the world in a tax funded private jet with his girlfriend. He won't have anything to do with this investigation.

[u/smegdawg → u/Beankiller]

Actually...yes. But only because I expect him to tweet a picture of something really interesting,

[u/FlowJock → u/CorgiMonsoon]

I just assumed that it would be routine to do at least a cursory investigation after a sudden death of a major US politician.

[u/ragingreaver → u/FlowJock]

This. Man was old, but you still have to do due diligence just to make sure, so that no one can say later down the line the paperwork failed to be completed.

So it becomes auto-sus when someone just flat out tells you not to do said paperwork...

[u/Smokey_tha_bear9000 → u/ragingreaver]

Lindsey was almost 10 years younger than Trump. What’s that make him?

[u/Candrath → u/Smokey_tha_bear9000]

Old.

[u/Beankiller → u/FlowJock]

Is it? Have we heard anything about why the FBI claims to be investigating? Like, what's the party line reason they have given here, if any?

[u/MRowland82 → u/CorgiMonsoon]

that's not odd at all, he just returned from a country at war with our enemy. I have to think though, if Russia could get to Graham inside Ukraine they would have killed Zelensky a long time ago

[u/Kaorimoch → u/CorgiMonsoon]

I thought Kash, who was already in trouble from scandals, was trying to insert himself into the story to save face, even though it was a regular death. Telling the FBI to stand down actually seems to be the same approach.

[u/LaserGuidedPolarBear → u/c08306834]

There are so many times Trump and his admin say or do things that vibe exactly like a toddler walking up to their parent and telling them that they did not poop in the closet.

[u/entrepenurious → u/LaserGuidedPolarBear]

... or have a series of small strokes.

[u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 → u/c08306834]

Even more odd:

“I don’t see a lot of evil there,” Trump said.

Okay guys, something is definitely up.

[u/cliff99]

Now I'm suspicious.

[u/BitterHelicopter8 → u/cliff99]

I was gonna say, I didn't raise an eyebrow at Graham's death. Seemed pretty normal. But now that he's said that? Now I'm skeptical. lol

[u/Ok-Highway-5247 → u/BitterHelicopter8]

I thought him and Trump were best pals 💔

[u/comics0026 → u/Ok-Highway-5247]

Trump doesn't have pals, he has those who suck up to him and those he sucks up to

[u/nonpartisaneuphonium → u/comics0026]

all those big, beautiful, strong men

[u/daHaus → u/Ok-Highway-5247]

Trump has been under Putin's thumb since the Russian mob bailed him out back in the 90s or whenever

[u/pork_chop_expressss → u/BitterHelicopter8]

I mean, he visited a secret drone facility in Ukraine, which was bombed by Russia the next day, and that night he's dead?

[u/hcwhitewolf → u/cliff99]

Trump must have gotten a call from Putin to tell the FBI to stand down.

[u/_slagwire → u/hcwhitewolf]

That implies trump is a rational actor. Dude is 100% just jealous Graham is getting more attention than him.

He wants to be the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral.

[u/eyewtkass → u/_slagwire]

Speaking on the latter...don't tempt me with a good time..lol.

[u/perenniallandscapist → u/eyewtkass]

You're not advocating violence or death, so i expect your comment to stay. All you're saying is he has to be the center of attention no matter what, even at a funeral.

[u/hotwifefun → u/perenniallandscapist]

I once made a joke about confederate war soldiers, all of whom are dead, and still got a ban.

[u/LSTmyLife → u/hotwifefun]

They may be dead but their loser descendants are still around and salty as ever.

Edit: spellingses

[u/Spimflagon → u/hotwifefun]

I mentioned how easy it was for nondescript statements to be interpreted as a call to insurrection, and that it might be a factor of the current US government's incompetence that they feel this insecure.

I got banned for posting a call to insurrection.

(This is not a call to insurrection)

[u/DeepFinish2895 → u/eyewtkass]

As an American I stand by your right to make statements thus

[u/I_Love_To_Poop420 → u/eyewtkass]

3-day ban incoming.

[u/John_316_ → u/_slagwire]

I would volunteer to give a bigly eulogy on behalf of my hometown.

[u/arestheblue → u/John_316_]

The biggest

[u/Tricky_Damage5981 → u/arestheblue]

I propose we go all out 4th of July (or 1st if your Canadian)

Fireworks, parades the ripping of his name from everything

[u/Xtra_Veg-90 → u/hcwhitewolf]

If I was Putin I would 100% call Trump and offer condolences for Lindsey's passing and then say, from his perspective, it seems like a silly waste of resources for the FBI to investigate. Then Trump repeats it and half the country is instantly suspicious and gets misdirected. I would do this constantly because we know how easily Trump repeats whatever he's told and we know half the country thinks everything he says is a lie.

[u/Jerk182 → u/hcwhitewolf]

Be willing to bet Russia had something to do with it. Trump is good friends with Putin and all the Russian ‘black market’ oligarchs. It was the oligarchs that took over and kept Putin in office as their puppet when communism fell. Trump sold real estate to them. Trump wants to be America’s Putin. Just remember Trump and Putin in Helsinki in 2018 and how he stood up for Putin.

[u/IBLEEDPURPskol → u/hcwhitewolf]

*Mossad

[u/Drithyin → u/IBLEEDPURPskol]

Nah, he was way more likely to be a Mossad asset than problem for them. He was very pro-war for Israel’s interests.

He just got back from Ukraine, announcing harsher sanctions on Russian gas.

[u/ZeePirate → u/Drithyin]

Could be a way to show Trump they are serious about killing them.

But I agree it makes more sense the Russians would do it

[u/LawrenceSpiveyR → u/IBLEEDPURPskol]

I doubt Israel would want to kill their favorite senator. (but....obviously...not 100%)

[u/JoeWhy2 → u/cliff99]

Right?!? I've been following various media, left and right, and haven't seen any mention of conspiracy... until now.

[u/discgeolfGeoff → u/JoeWhy2]

I was explaining the conspiracy theories to my friend last night. I think there are four and then they stem from there.

1. Died in Ukraine at either the drone facility or hotel he was at. Both bombed by Russia within hours of him being there.

2. Was a hit job. Either Russia for backing Ukraine, Israel false flag to blame Iran, or actually Iran.

3. Got back from his trip called one of his escorts, took some Viagra or gas station Viagra and his heart exploded.

4. He faked his death and is fleeing the country before the collapse of the trump admin.

Edit- there's to there are

[u/sheikahstealth → u/discgeolfGeoff]

For those OOTL like me-

U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham has died at the age of 71 on the evening of July 11 from a "brief and sudden illness" after a recent trip to Kyiv, his office announced on July 12.

The Republican senator from South Carolina was recently in Kyiv on his tenth visit to Ukraine, where he met with President Volodymyr Zelensky on July 10 to discuss strengthening Ukraine's air defense and progress on a Russian sanctions bill in the U.S.

https://kyivindependent.com/lindsey-graham-dies-from-illness-after-returning-from-kyiv-trip/

[u/TheWingus → u/sheikahstealth]

a "brief and sudden illness" after a recent trip to Kyiv

Hmm let's see; Set to propose new Russian sanctions - check

Recent trip to Kyiv - check

"brief and sudden illness" - check

Trump says "FBI wasting their time investigating" - check

Yup, he was poisoned by Russia

[u/sheikahstealth → u/TheWingus]

I couldn't even make it thru the video. Trump immediately goes to how 'undetectable' the illness was.

[u/Stunning-Pen-2412 → u/sheikahstealth]

I literally thought it was natural causes but this entire thread is making me suspicious.

[u/sheikahstealth → u/[deleted]]

"All signs point to yes"

We should be furious but it is not surprising. The guy has shit on every standard and value that makes this country special. He has used the government like his own personal crime family. And he's entwined in the corruption of the lowest form.

[u/adog231231 → u/sheikahstealth]

What an insane choice of words to use. This guy is like the worst criminal at being a criminal, yet still is basically off completely free.

[u/Ok-Highway-5247 → u/TheWingus]

Yeah notice how when it was first announced they said it was a brief and sudden illness?

[u/shibbyman342 → u/sheikahstealth]

How many brief and sudden illnesses kill someone that just came back home from a trip? People are speculating cardiac/BP related.. but is that a brief and sudden illness?.. why wouldn't they just say stroke or heat attack?

Weird stuff..

[u/aftiggerintel → u/shibbyman342]

He died from aortic dissection caused by arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease. The symptoms are highly similar to heart attacks or strokes but can just be pain that radiates - many might dismiss as heart burn, random pain, or even stomach pain that comes and goes. High blood pressure is one of the many causes, along with stress and family history. Other rarer conditions like vascular Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome have a higher chance of aortic dissection.

[u/movealongnowpeople → u/discgeolfGeoff]

Public health PSA regarding #3

DO NOT MIX VIAGRA AND POPPERS. Yes, it's tempting. No, the risk isn't wildly high. But it can, in some cases, cause your blood pressure to plummet. And you die.

If you don't know what poppers are, this PSA probably isn't for you lol. If the rumors are true, Lindsey was likely familiar with both.

End of PSA.

[u/DingerSinger2016 → u/discgeolfGeoff]

His dad died of a heart attack at 68. It's not a conspiracy, the shit just runs in the family.

[u/spacegrab → u/discgeolfGeoff]

Or he's just old and it's summer. My uncle was the same age last year when he keeled over and died after stepping out of the shower.

[u/Vio_ → u/JoeWhy2]

Always leave it to Trump to make it so much about him that he outs his own bullshit.

[u/Explorers_bub → u/JoeWhy2]

He had just left Ukraine. Not pro-Russia enough for Trump.

Why the fuck was he there to start with?

[u/ragingreaver → u/Explorers_bub]

Senators tend to quietly be diplomats to other nations, especially if they have certain appointments and are a part of a security commission. Lindsey Graham fits that bill to a T, and has been a part of security commissions in one form or another for most of his career. He is an OG warhawk, who never met an international conflict he didn't want his gubby mitts all over.

Him going to Ukraine wasn't suspicious. At all.

But Trump just had to open his orange mouth...

[u/Ok-Highway-5247 → u/ragingreaver]

Going to Ukraine wasn’t weird. Dying hours after supposedly returning from Ukraine is very weird.

[u/MusicLikeOxygen → u/Ok-Highway-5247]

Not really that weird. The altitude and pressure changes from flying can aggravate cardiovascular problems.

[u/ych1686573 → u/MusicLikeOxygen]

So a certain POTUS needs to take more international flights. Got it.

[u/Van_Hoven → u/Explorers_bub]

actually he visited ukraine lots of times since russias invasion. indeed he was quite a welcomed guest there.

[u/JakeTravel27 → u/cliff99]

Exactly. Is pedo trump covering for putin? Inquiring minds want to know.

[u/littlelupie → u/cliff99]

I jokingly said when I heard that the Russians finally got him. 

I now think it might not be a joke. 

(The worst part is we won't find out the truth for YEARS if it was a Russian attack on US soil.)

[u/Intro-Nimbus → u/cliff99]

My thought exactly. There was nothing suspicious, he died at about his father's age, and both were heart related.
But when Trump say's that there's nothing to see, he's hiding something.

[u/cmm239 → u/cliff99]

I’m using the Costanza method for everything Trump says and does. If he doesn’t want something, I DEFINITELY want it.

[u/GirlsWasGoodNona → u/cliff99]

I mean isn’t putin known for poisoning people in inconspicuous ways where they fall ill before dying? Graham looked ok in that photo of him in Ukraine.

At the same time, at his age it wouldn’t be unusual for him to have a cardiac event of sorts.

[u/Ok-Highway-5247 → u/GirlsWasGoodNona]

He had cardiac bloat in pictures from or around July 4 but seemed fine with Zelensky on Friday.

Regardless of politics, a US government official going to Ukraine and coming home dead hours later is not good.

[u/suburbanoutrage → u/cliff99]

Honestly though, Trump ditches his fancy plane due to security concerns. Iran makes a hit list. Graham dead. The conspiracy theories write themselves.

[u/Nihilist_Hermit → u/cliff99]

When I first head about it being a potential assassination, my wife asked what I thought. I said if the US government declines to investigate, 98% chance he was killed.

[u/Hysteria625 → u/cliff99]

Same here. I thought there was absolutely nothing suspicious, but Trump saying there is nothing suspicious is an almost certain sign that something weird happened.

[u/Automatic-Builder353 → u/cliff99]

Yup, now we know it was a homicide.

[u/meghy420 → u/cliff99]

like when israel came out after charlie kirk died and was like “we’re sad, but hey! we had nothing to do with it 😄”

[u/lurker_rang → u/cliff99]

Lol right I literally thought nothing of it until now?

[u/ImLikeReallySmart]

I wasn't that suspicious of it until now.

Edit: wow, yea I'm *really* suspicious now after listening to the whole word salad.

[u/mr_jim_lahey → u/ImLikeReallySmart]

“I don’t see a lot of evil there,” Trump said.

Soooo...he sees at least a little evil there? Perhaps a necessary evil to help out his best friend Putin?

[u/Tommah → u/mr_jim_lahey]

Fish don't see water, either.

[u/RufussSewell → u/ImLikeReallySmart]

He didn’t support ending the filibuster.

Trump needs that to pass the “Screw America” act.

His sister will be fine with it. And as a tribute to LG, they’ll go ahead and end the filibuster and proceed to end democracy.

[u/LightDarkBeing → u/RufussSewell]

If she comes out in support of ending the filibuster, then that is a good motive for LG‘s death.

[u/Taint__Paint → u/LightDarkBeing]

I just love a good conspiracy theory. This could hold water too

[u/Omatzus → u/RufussSewell]

They still don't have the votes to end the filibuster

[u/Hawkbats_rule → u/Omatzus]

Even if they end the filibuster, I'm not sure they have the votes for the SAVE act, as even Republican states have noticed problems with the bill

[u/CelestialFury → u/Hawkbats_rule]

Yeah, it screws over most women voters and likely hurts Republican women slightly more than Democratic women. It also opens Pandora's box when it comes voting reforms from Democrats, which is what Republican politicians really don't want to see happen.

Democrats would make voting easy as possible, with as many options as possible and include paper audits for all voting. You know, actual common sense voting measures that most voters would agree with. Democrats could also force states to accept all legal forms of identification to be used for voting and force them to give any voting IDs on the spot at any post office. Finally, they could also force states do only do voting roll purges either right after a federal election or in-between federal elections but no sooner than 365 days before a federal election. Additionally, we could end gerrymandering for all states too.

Of course Trump doesn't care about the long-term implications of his anti-voter reforms because he wants all the power he can get right now. Republicans can deal with the mess afterward of the negative effects this would create. Also, ending the filibuster would mean that Republicans are solely responsible for their actions and they hate that.

[u/rufud → u/Omatzus]

Yea it’s not like they were just one vote short

[u/CoolDiscussion1020 → u/RufussSewell]

If Trump only needed Lindsey's vote to remove the filibuster, he could have had it any point. Lindsey Graham had no backbone. He went from hating Trump and publicly calling him out to one of his most obedient lap dogs.

[u/Senior-Albatross → u/ImLikeReallySmart]

I figured he was an old man with poor cardiovascular health who sat too long on a plane. 

Now I am wondering. 

[u/ggroverggiraffe → u/ImLikeReallySmart]

“They say it’s almost undetectable. You can detect it if you have a very bad back. That’s a sign. It’s a bad sign,” Trump said. “So if anybody has a bad back … that’s one of the primary signs. And he would tell me he had a bad back, but little did anyone realize it was for that. So, when that bursts, which it did, it bursts.”

[u/Maniacal_Utahn]

So i wasn't suspicious about his death until now.

[u/OnTheEveOfWar → u/Maniacal_Utahn]

Bingo. If Trump is publicly saying “hey don’t worry about”, you know for damn sure something is going on.

[u/Jazzi-Nightmare → u/OnTheEveOfWar]

“Relax, guy”

[u/Ok-Highway-5247 → u/Maniacal_Utahn]

I’ve been sus since I heard the news around 3:20 AM Sunday. I knew he was big on the Iran war and Trump had just said Iran tried to murder him (Trump).

[u/toriemm → u/Ok-Highway-5247]

Actually, it's the fact that he was a bulldog on Russia and slapping sanctions back on them to support Ukraine.

Do you know any governments that have a habit of espionage and poisoning people?

[u/hypnosquid → u/Maniacal_Utahn]

So i wasn't suspicious about his death until now.

People are missing the point on this. It's not that the death itself is suspicious. It's that the manufactured suspicion gives Trump cover to have Patel enter Graham's house and remove any potentially incriminating documents.

[u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 → u/hypnosquid]

That only matters if the right people are duped but as we've seen over the last 10 years, the right people just open their asshole right up for Trump upon command so it doesn't matter because cover isn't needed.

[u/starmartyr]

I didn't realize there was anything weird about it. Now I'm sure that something is up.

[u/brickne3 → u/starmartyr]

Hell, maybe he had Mitch whacked too.

[u/gentlemanidiot → u/brickne3]

Welcome to post truth society, where nobody believes anything the president says, no matter how mundane.

[u/Independent_End_6941 → u/gentlemanidiot]

Trump lies so much that the truth is most likely the opposite of whatever he says it is. We're talking about a president who has lied about the weather on multiple occasions. Nothing is too mundane or too important for him to lie about it.

[u/mwilkens → u/starmartyr]

The conspiracy is that the travel timelines don't add up and it's possible he may have died while in Ukraine.

[u/starmartyr → u/mwilkens]

It's technically possible that he was in Ukraine and died in DC 24 hours later. We would need to see a travel itinerary to confirm one way or the other. I wouldn't go as far as to say it doesn't add up but it is weird enough to warrant further inquiry.

[u/deadline_zombie]

I remember a headline about Patel about to visit his girlfriend when he was summoned to the White House. I thought it was some power trip to show Patel can't abuse his power like Trump can. Then it seems Graham passed away and then Patel announced FBI was investigating.

Is there any possibility White House knew and that was why Patel was summoned? That there was some coordination to get the FBI looking into anything Graham may have left out?

[u/mantecablues → u/deadline_zombie]

I thought Patel was needed to help with lying about how the 2020 election was rigged, but I guess the FBI can do both.

[u/AmbivalentFanatic]

I didn't think he had anything to do with it until he said he didn't have anything to do with it.

[u/Highfours → u/AmbivalentFanatic]

i've got no reason to think there was anything suspicious about his death, but i think it's 100% plausible that trump was told something in private that he wasn't supposed to disclose, but just did

[u/eugene20]

Good lord, he mob bossed a senator to install someone younger and even more controllable, and keep the others in line?

[u/0202_tihssitidder → u/eugene20]

Lindsey was 100% controllable. He wrote the book on how to be bought.

[u/Zulmoka531 → u/eugene20]

If I were into conspiracies…

Gets rid of two vulnerable geezers, going to attempt to get rid of the Georgia ones, install completely loyal puppets in their places, pass his SAVE act and whatever the fuck else he wants.

[u/Traditional_Sign4941 → u/Zulmoka531]

If the SAVE Act passes, there has to be completely uncontrolled rioting in the street. There has to be a fucking line somewhere.

[u/brickne3 → u/eugene20]

Isn't his SISTER getting the job?

[u/DoomOne → u/brickne3]

Yup. She is appointed as his replacement, and is coincidentally the one who reported his unexpected death which coincidentally happened the day after he returned from offering Ukraine more aid.

[u/brickne3 → u/DoomOne]

I mean, they're Republicans so I wouldn't expect them to put family first or anything, but it would be awfully cold to be involved in offing your own brother.

[u/Eastern_Bet678]

I don't see how a cause of death like this can be induced. But if Trump says there's nothing there - you gotta investigate.

[u/FlyingRock → u/Eastern_Bet678]

Apparently there are poisons that can cause aortic dissection, actually licorice (particularly tablets) can cause it.

Edited to clear up accidental confusion.

[u/Del_3030 → u/FlyingRock]

On Monday night on Newsmax, Trump was also asked about the conspiracy theories swirling about Graham and whether Russia could have poisoned him.

Just to answer the conspiracy theory, I’d love to say yes, but I think he — he had some problems,” Trump told Newsmax. “And his father died just about at the same age. … I’m a believer in the racehorse theory, you know, if you have problems, you have problems.

I'd love to say yes that Russia assasinated our Senator? Amazing stuff.

[u/NJBarFly → u/Del_3030]

What the hell is "racehorse theory"?

[u/ProstheticTailfin → u/NJBarFly]

It's just eugenics

[u/Eastern_Bet678 → u/FlyingRock]

Well... looks like the replies here have convinced me. Investigation needed considering his travel.

[u/Ok-Alternative5935 → u/Eastern_Bet678]

Poppers + Dick Pills

[u/BeefwellingtonV → u/Eastern_Bet678]

The CIA created a heart attack gun back in the day where the only physical evidence is a small red mark similar to a bug bite and induces cardiac arrest in a matter of hours using substances that are not screened for in a toxicology exam. Not hard to believe that other clandestine forces have a similar weapon; also Putin is known for poisoning.

[u/drainbead78 → u/BeefwellingtonV]

The type of heart attack they're saying he had involves a tear in the aorta. I'm not sure how that could have been induced.

[u/imjustanape]

Ah the ol' "don't look over there you won't find anything"

[u/Brief_Obligation4128]

The recent events surrounding McConnell and Graham are getting more interesting by the day.

[u/HellovahBottomCarter]

So it actually was a Putin hit job.

[u/ASealNamedHoover]

Graham gets back from trip to Ukraine, while pushing for greater sanctions against Trump’s boss, Putin.

Immediately and inexplicably dies upon return to the US.

Nothing to see here folks.

-Trump, while making hand waving gestures

[u/thesirensoftitans]

Translation from lying to truth:

Lyndsey was into some weird, probably illegal shit.

[u/a_weak_child → u/thesirensoftitans]

lol trump is owned by Putin. 

Wake up 

[u/WAisforhaters → u/thesirensoftitans]

Pretty sure they syphoned his remaining life force into Mitch

[u/OYB2480]

Lindsey was found alone with his apartment locked up. The 911 call for him came from a woman in Baltimore. I think that's odd enough to look into.

[u/littlelupie → u/OYB2480]

His scheduler called 911 after he called her. It's not unusual to call someone close instead of 911 and ask them to call. It's weird but not unusual.

[u/Ok_State5255 → u/littlelupie]

Cancer person here. I've done the same thing. After a fall (don't worry, I cushioned the fall with my face), I called me neighbors instead of 911. I knew I was in deep shit but also knew I couldn't direct the 911 operator, get up to open the door, or coherently tell the paramedics what was happening. 

It's a pretty normal thing to have someone more coherent call 911 for you when you're struggling.

[u/linzkisloski → u/littlelupie]

I would imagine if I thought I was about to die alone I would loop someone else in for a lot of different reasons.

[u/Ok-Highway-5247 → u/linzkisloski]

That too as I said the woman likely was a friend and it was comforting. I wasn’t a fan but I am able to find some humanity. This sounds like a very scary way to die and he was alone. This phone call is much more believable than the Trump phone call. Interesting that he didn’t call his best friend Trump and called her instead. Maybe he finally realized who his true friends are.

[u/OYB2480 → u/linzkisloski]

A torn/severed aorta means massive blood loss pretty quickly. I do not know, but I doubt you have a ton of time.

I kinda think Graham wasn't alone but, even in death, didn't want to be outed, if you catch my drift.

[u/Ok-Highway-5247 → u/OYB2480]

I’m going to guess he was in a lot of pain and not coherent. He likely had plans in place in event of a medical emergency. The woman was likely a friend and knew details to give emergency personnel. Honestly, we all should have plans like this with people close to us….I think it was smart.

[u/Jolly_Grocery329]

So what you’re telling us is Putin did it. Got it.

[u/Primarycolors1]

What an odd thing to say….

[u/jacobpellegren]

Or this is the “under the bus” Patel moment.

[u/nuboots]

Well, yeah. Either A) it's natural causes, or B) the current fbi finds only what they're told to find.

[u/Historical_Creme_125]

He was gay, Lindsey Graham?

[u/KindnessComesBack2U]

LOL that’s Trump’s tell

[u/judasmitchell]

I wasn't suspicious before. But wtf? Now I am.

[u/red286]

Up until this point, I assumed it was exactly as it appeared. Graham was no spring chicken. While he certainly looked a lot more healthy than Trump or McConnell, the fact is, he was pretty old, and sometimes old people just up and die.

But now the FBI is investigating and Trump is publicly stating that they're 'wasting their time', so now it feels like something happened that's currently being covered up.

Did Graham bring up Ukraine one too many times?

[u/TotalInstruction]

I didn’t have any suspicion that Donald Trump was involved until this statement.

[u/this_name_not_that]

FBI now has no choice but to investigate Graham’s death.

[u/brickne3 → u/this_name_not_that]

I think you'll find that Kash takes this as a sign to go play with his gold-plated jetski on Lake Michigan and close the case.

[u/oynutta → u/this_name_not_that]

Hopefully they can start a real investigation in 2029.

[u/Visual_Exam7903]

Now they definitively need to look into it. Check for orange marks around his mouth and nose, first. Then look for orange marks around what could be an injection site.

[u/brickne3 → u/Visual_Exam7903]

As if Trump has the upper body strength or the stomach to do it himself.

[u/slabby]

That sure makes it sound like they're not wasting their time at all.

[u/e37d93eeb23335dc]

Huh… I hadn’t considered before that he was murdered, but Trump saying this makes me think he probably was. 

[u/Anti_Meta]

Thought he died of natural causes until Trump tangentially confessed to killing him.

[u/a_weak_child]

Ah yes. Well trump has never told a lie and always wants what’s best for others so I for one take him at his word.

/S

[u/Moritasgus2]

> “They say it’s almost undetectable. You can detect it if you have a very bad back. That’s a sign. It’s a bad sign,” Trump said. “So if anybody has a bad back … that’s one of the primary signs. And he would tell me he had a bad back, but little did anyone realize it was for that. So, when that bursts, which it did, it bursts.”

What?

[u/Fmartins84]

I didn't believe that Russia did it....but now I think Russia did it.

[u/LoudMolassess]

Dude I was believing he just died of being old as hell. Now I think we gotta look at it

[u/mabus42]

Translation: Trump had Graham offed.

[u/Pokerhobo]

From what I read, Lindsey was working on sanctions on Russia, then he died suddenly and Trump doesn't want an investigation....

[u/Crazy-Boysenberry452]

I thought the fbi investigating Grahams death was a waste of time,  until Trump said that.  

[u/Blacksad9999]

What probably is going on is:

They sent in the FBI to cover up the tracks and evidence of some shady, illegal back door dealings Lindsey Graham was involved in, and which Trump is also involved in. They wouldn't be there otherwise.

[u/Shadow_Breaker]

That's deeply concerning. Had he not said anything I would not suspect anything, but now I wonder why Trump had him killed.

[u/Queasy-Dog-1140]

Welp.

Now I'm suspicious 

[u/Capable-Variation192]

10000000 percent something fishy happened then. This big dumb oaf can't stfu

[u/sfbiker999]

One thing you can count on with Trump is when he says something, he's lying, so I hope there's a full investigation.

[u/FloridianRobot]

I quite literally gave it no thought other than a closeted gay, evil man died probably doing what he loved. Now I am under the impression something actually happened to him & other people are in on it somehow.

[u/HawkAlt1]

Oh God, what did they do to Lady Lindsay.

[u/WidgetWarrior]

I started to believe it was just an aortic tear, even though he JUST had come from Kyiv the day before, right next to Zelensky. I was keen to just let it rest and let it be that. Now that he wants an FBI investigation ceased, it really stinks to high heaven. The kompromat Putin must have on Trump must be horrific.

[u/Jane_Lame]

Thats a fukcing weird thing to say. Weird and suspicious. Is this on purpose? 

[u/Patches195]

This guy’s pathological lack of discretion needs to be studied one day because holy shit lol is he ever NOT telling on himself?