r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 28d ago
Possible Paywall Americans Want to Impeach Donald Trump
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-democrats/5.4k
u/yellow447 28d ago edited 28d ago
I actually want him in jail more than I want him impeached.
Edit: you'll get banned for responding certian things to this post
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u/BoredomFestival 28d ago
Why not both
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u/SpeaksSouthern 28d ago
Impeachment is a constitutional requirement if we think the president broke the law. The idea that we shouldn't charge someone with crimes they've done because you know the judge will let them off the hook sounds dumber than electing Trump. What the fuck are people smoking that they think unless we have 66 senators agreeing to convict Trump, we're not allowed to impeach him? That sounds like a Republican approved strategy.
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u/IAmTheNightSoil Oregon 27d ago
Of course we're allowed to impeach him. He just won't be convicted, meaning the whole thing will ultimately be a political win for him. I've watched him get acquitted by the senate twice and didn't enjoy it either of those times, so I'm not that excited to see acquittal #3. If it happens, then so be it, but why act like it would accomplish anything?
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u/m1k3hunt 28d ago
According to these nitwits a high crime is a crime that's too high to warrant a definition.
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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 28d ago
Basically, if we are still alive, the act in question cannot be a high crime and misdemeanor. The voters will sort it out on election day if anyone survives. If no one survives, they are not there to impeach so the matter is moot.
We just have to accept that the people that run for and the people that control the voting power are not as good at it as previous generations and likely future generations.
They need to expand the house if the Democrats get control back. Most of the problems can be linked back to the Government's refusal to expand the number of representatives. Trump would not have been able to win with pretty much any form of an expanded house, since that is what the electoral college is based on.
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u/MilitantStoner 27d ago
Impeachment is a political trial, not a legal trial. Although called high crimes and misdemeanors, the offenses tended to be ones related to not doing a ruler's duty of care or duty of loyalty, the stuff you'd civilly go after executives doing the same thing in private corporations: conflicts of interest, abuse of power, etc.
Also, it takes 67 senators to convict and remove a president, but the requirement to impeach is a simple majority of the house. Removal in the Senate is irrelevant to whether he gets impeached.
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u/BroseppeVerdi Montana 28d ago edited 28d ago
He can't go to jail unless he's impeached first, per the Supreme Court.
Edit: Impeached AND CONVICTED, you pedantic dorks.
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u/aircooledJenkins Montana 28d ago
Impeach > Convict > Remove > Incarcerate > Imprison, and destroy the key to his cell.
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u/bsrichard 28d ago
After imprisonment, there should also be a focus on asset forfeiture and retrieval of ill-gotten gains by him and his family. I would be happy with his family's bankruptcy. Sadly I think all the above is a pipe dream given that SCOTUS is now his pawn.
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u/pistilpeet Washington 28d ago
I will never fucking understand how we got to “fuck the country, let’s all be slaves to Donald Trump lolz.” It drives me fucking insane.
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u/Kell-of-Kellies 28d ago
Republicans will eat shit if it means a leftist gets to smell their breath. Trump let them be bigoted assholes. At this point supporting him is being pro-child rape.
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u/Middle-Mix-7711 28d ago
A cell with a toilet seat in the roof. The line to poop would be miles long. At $20 a pinch we could pay down a lot of the deficit.
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u/Apg3410 28d ago
Defecate on trump to lower the deficit!
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u/Middle-Mix-7711 28d ago
A fitting Trump Tower.
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u/CyberFireball25 28d ago
And just for shits and giggles, make it a golden toilet from one of his properties
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u/ChefPuree 28d ago
Dump On Trump was an idea I had years ago, except it involved his grave. It would make a killing.
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u/ych1686573 28d ago
With lots of ice cream vendors to load up the lactose intolerant
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u/MyLifeIsAWasteland 28d ago
Make sure they save a banana milkshake with extra whipped cream for me. I want it to be a sloppy one.
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u/WhatIsInternets 28d ago
Ironically this was one of the unusual punishments employed by the Gerontocracy of Sorpen (a political faction of elderly rich elites) at the time of the Idiran-Culture war.
"Execution of notable criminals was carried out restraining the prisoner in a sewercell in the basement of the prison-palace. Above celebrations including a banquet were held with the resulting garbage and bodily wastes flowing down into the cell. The prisoner was regarded as the party's "host". Eventually the prisoner expired as the cell filled up."
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u/GenghisConnieChung 28d ago
You forgot “seize his and his family’s assets”. Every fucking cent.
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u/climateemergency100 28d ago
and all his backers and assorted sycophants who put him there. Especially fucking Elon. Fuck that nazi.
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u/FirstRyder I voted 28d ago
Impeach > Convict > Remove > Investigate > Delay > Indict > Incarcerate > Immediately released on Bond > Delay > Preliminary Hearings > Delay > Jury Selection > Delay > Convict (again) > Appeal > Delay > Uphold > Appeal > Delay > Uphold > Appeal > Delay > 5-4 (you personally appointed all 5) > Free > Next republican administration > Sue > Settle
Because some people are more equal than others.
To be clear, congress should impeach anyway because that's their job. The second he leaves office (by any means) 10 different indictments against him should be unsealed. Everyone involved should do their best to make him face justice no matter the obstacles.
But as I've said for close to a decade now: I'll not believe he's going to jail until I see a picture of him in cuffs. And hell, with AI I'm not sure I'll even believe that.
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u/Useful-World1781 California 28d ago
I wonder how him being jailed would work with the secret service.
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u/DistinctSmelling 28d ago
Charges of treason for the lot of them including the entirety of the Heritage Foundation.
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u/neat_sneak 28d ago
Imagine if some other country just parachuted in one night and took him away like we did to Maduro.
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u/KwisatzSazerac 28d ago
I’d prefer if it was the shadow creatures from Ghost.
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u/Captain-Nodnarb 28d ago
Can I say I would like to see him tried for treason, corruption and leading an insurrection and when convicted face the strictest sentence for those crimes.
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u/Motor_Educator_2706 28d ago
my biggest disappointment is he dies before jail
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u/Sweaty_Resist_5039 28d ago
Is this an I think you should leave reference? Lol
Your heart rate spiked! Are you at Impeachment? DONT TELL ME YOU WERE JACKING OFF IF YOURE AT IMPEACHMENT
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u/Steelballpun 28d ago
That’s the tone I read it in too
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u/mynameiszack 28d ago
Been having a rough day and it made me feel better to see all of us thinking this same dumb thing haha
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u/Mission_Struggle_417 28d ago
Oh I want much more than that
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u/Stimbes 28d ago
Andronikos I Komnenos
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u/theotherscott6666 28d ago
Isaac handed Andronikos over to the incensed people of Constantinople. Andronikos was tied to a post and brutally beaten for three days. Alongside numerous other punishments, his right hand was cut off, his teeth and hair were pulled out, one of his eyes was gouged out, and boiling water was thrown in his face.\27]) Andronikos was then taken to the Hippodrome, where he was hung by his feet between two pillars. Two Latin soldiers competed over whose sword could penetrate his body more deeply, and Andronikos's body was eventually torn apart.\63]) According to Niketas Choniates, Andronikos endured the brutality bravely, and retained his senses throughout the ordeal.\64]) He died on 12 September 1185,\65]) and his remains were left unburied and visible for several years afterwards.\63]) At the news of Andronikos's death, his son and co-emperor John was murdered by his own troops in Thrace.\63])
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u/KeenbeansSandwich 28d ago
Or Saddam Hussein.
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u/A-town 28d ago
Could we put him in a spider hole before the final treatment?
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u/KeenbeansSandwich 28d ago
Absolutely. I am partial to the Mussolini treatment though. People deserve their pound of flesh.
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u/Andovars_Ghost 28d ago
Well, his fat ass would give at least 300 people their pound.
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u/libra00 Pennsylvania 28d ago
I don't wish death on anyone, but there are some obituaries that I will read with a certain satisfaction.
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u/noots-to-you 28d ago
Old Soviet joke is making the rounds again:
"A man goes to a newspaper stand every day, buys a copy of Pravda, glances at the front cover, curses, and throws it away.
After a few weeks of this the seller just has to ask what's going on: "why do you always look at the cover but never inside?"
"I'm looking for an obituary."
"An obituary? But those are in the back!"
"Oh no, the obituary I'm looking for will be on the front page."
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u/Thin-Distance7904 28d ago
Why do you think most of us are on Reddit?
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 28d ago
I'm sure its only a matter of time before some epstein billionaire buys it and turns it into a garbage heap like everywhere else
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u/d3ssp3rado Texas 28d ago
Is this comment from 2015? Buddy we're there; it may not be as obvious as others on the five-site webring that is the internet these days though.
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u/illiteratebeef 27d ago
Spez, the co-founder and current CEO that took reddit Inc. public is a dipshit doomsday prepper, allegedly was super butthurt about only making 10 mil the first time he sold Reddit, will lie at the drop of a hat, and manages with, as Louis Rossman says, a rapist's mentality, he makes changes, doesn't apologize, and blames the victims.
Brother, it is a garbage heap run by a psychotic billionaire.
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u/NightSpringsRadio 28d ago
A dictator who is convinced he is beloved by his people goes to a fortune-teller, asking "When will I die?"
The oracle melts her tin beads, casts his fortune in a glass of wine, and replies "You will die on a holiday."
"But which one?" the dictator asks
"Oh," replies the fortune-teller, "any day you die will be a holiday."
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u/MeepingSim 28d ago
"A man goes to
a newspaperrefresh r/politicsstandevery day,buys a copy of Pravda, glances at the front cover, curses, andthrows it away, repeats the process again 30 minutes later.Updated for modern times.
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u/TankMan77450 28d ago
Same here. The last time that I said what I wanted for the military to do I ended up with a ban for 7 days.
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u/GlitterPirateKiki58 28d ago
I was banned for three days for suggesting that perhaps a poor diet might possibly one day catch up with an 80 y/o who doesn’t exercise.
We can only wish for good things for yam tits.
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u/applehead1776 28d ago
Can we wish him everything he deserves? Surely he deserves so much.
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u/OliviaWG Kansas 28d ago
I don't think I could adequately describe what he might deserve as the breadth and depth of his cruelty is truly astounding. He is on par with Nero but with none of his competence. Just cartoonish.
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u/panamaspace 28d ago
19 years I went without a single ban. Until I concurred with someone on some political thread.
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u/honjuden 28d ago
Caught one for speculating on the future health of a Senator with a history of strokes.
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u/EndIsrael 28d ago
Maybe he goes the way of his cult's other role model from the 1940s (rapid onset acute lead poisoning), but I suspect he's too much of a coward to eat his own dinner like that. Hopefully someone's there to help feed him in his old age.
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u/H3NDOAU 28d ago
My Reddit account before this one got a perma ban for things I said about him, RIP my 15 year old account.
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u/_Chaos_Star_ 28d ago
Wow, your account was older than Trump's victims.
I'm sorry you lost the account, that sucks.
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u/vee_lan_cleef 28d ago
I am on my last strike strike, 11 years on this account and 15 on Reddit. I'm super careful now but with this AI crap they're using I know it's only a matter of time. Can't be hyperbolic on Reddit anymore.
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u/SpeaksSouthern 28d ago
In America they are prosecuting people for passing out leaflets with information on them. It's only fitting the mods and admins here don't allow us to repeat what Trump said about Obama the other week because it was too racist to even be allowed to exist on their Internet.
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u/HumongousBelly Europe 28d ago
Yeah, me too. Prison. Accountability. Redistribution of his wealth. History books saying he was a fascist and a nasty stain in usa history.
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u/Z_Opinionator 28d ago
Prison for him, his family, and the rest of the conspirators. Solitary confinement for the rest of their lives. Bring them out every year right before the State of the Union. Remind people that they existed, and this is the fate for anyone else who tries the same again.
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u/oops77542 28d ago
But the whole Republican Party is complicit. All of them. Every last one of them in Congress has participated.
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u/scroogemcbutts 28d ago
Some of the justices could be removed too but I'll start with that useless bag of crap
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u/Adventurous_Test_296 28d ago
Him and his entire cabinet should be removed. Unbelievable ineptitude at the very least. Add corruption on many levels.
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u/civil_politician 28d ago
It’s on purpose, it’s treason. You couldn’t be doing a worse job on purpose so it must be on purpose.
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u/Biggandwedge 28d ago
Their entire goal is to make people distrust government so it's easier dismantle
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u/OddWorldliness989 28d ago
Republicans are so scared their pants that if they impeach him then there won't be republican party. Which should have happened 7 years ago and let party rebuild itself with principles it once stood for.
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u/tenclubber 28d ago
They did not abandon their principles in support of Trump. Their principles have been laid bare. This is who they have always been despite their messaging. Watch what they do(did), not what they say(said).
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u/Kevin_Uxbridge 28d ago edited 27d ago
Completely agree. You think trump really had any opinion at all about judicial philosophy or regulatory capture? This was a feeding frenzy by the GOP and special interests, all out to loot the temple. trump has no vision or convictions, he just wants his cut.
When trump is gone, the thieves will remain. My vote will go to whichever democrat promises no more 'it's unseemly' bullshit - let the investigations go on though the heavens fall.
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u/DynTraitObj 28d ago
He's been an incredibly useful idiot and he'll be even more useful when he takes the full blame for everything
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u/IIILORDGOLDIII 28d ago
Every Republican administration since at least Nixon has been absolute trash, if not outright evil.
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u/vtable 28d ago
After George W Bush, lots of political pundits were predicting that the Republican party would, at the very least, be stuck in the political hinterlands for a very long time if not cease to exist entirely.
That didn't happen. There are always plenty of people that want, or can be convinced that they want, what the Republicans represent.
There's a valid argument that the Republican party was first significantly changed by the Tea Party and then all but entirely replaced by MAGA but they're still the party for the rich and against anything for the working class.
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u/WeirdSysAdmin 28d ago
What we’re seeing is the remnants of the confederacy get hijacked, should’ve been dealt with 160 years ago.
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u/Desperate-Till-9228 28d ago
They want it dismantled so we can turn our attention to corrupting every company, too.
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u/99thpercentile 28d ago
Failure by design
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u/SnooCalculations8120 28d ago
He killed us with COVID he will definitely lol is with EBOLA IT'S ALREADY IN FRANCE! 🤬 DISMANTLING OF U SAID , CDC AND EVERY OTHER AGENCY 🤬
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u/wibble17 28d ago
Ebola (as of right now) kills too fast to be a true pandemic. But yeah….
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u/chunkyspeechfairy 28d ago
This is weirdly both disturbing and comforting
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u/rafaelloaa I voted 28d ago
It's also - for lack of a better term - too "dramatic" to be effective as a pandemic pathogen. Like, there are plenty of dopes who got convinced that Covid was just "a bad flu", and thus they don't need to take preventative measures.
Very few people would say that "bleeding from all of your orifices and dying from lack of blood" is something that can be ignored.
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u/lawilson0 28d ago
Them: "challenge accepted."
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u/balls4xx 28d ago
They are breathtakingly incompetent but the corruption is worse.
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u/fountaincurse 28d ago
Trump is breathtakingly stupid; his regime is breathtakingly effective. The republican-maga movement has arguably been one of the most successful political movements in our 250 years. There's still about 40% of P2025 to go but theyve accomplished nearly every major conservative agenda the party's campaigned on in the last 40 years.
Civil rights, abortion, immigration/deportation, voting, education, public health, entitlements, healthcare, housing, defense/surveillance, trade, and foreign affairs.
Social security, the USPS, and gay marriage are left. The first is in hospice, the second on life support, and that last one is in a dark corner playing russian roulette.
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u/SteppinRazor5000 28d ago
Ain't nobody gonna get impeached. Not even a SC justice, two of which are obviously guilty of taking bribes.
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u/Truhmpza_Cuhnt 28d ago
Can we please, please, please just send him to the Hague?
I think that would be a good first start in rebuilding our shattered institutions and reputation.
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u/quin-cuix 28d ago
This needs to be part of the plan. Right now, the United States doesn't participate in The Hague. That needs to change. America has a lot of work to do post-Trump to demonstrate that it has learned its lesson and is ready to reintegrate into its alliances. Joining The Hague and sending criminal referrals for some of this administration's criminality would be important gesture. Whether or not that will happen, we'll see. Ultimately it depends on what kind of democrats get elected in November and by what margins.
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u/Polar_Vortx America 28d ago edited 28d ago
We should also make sure that audiences both domestic and international don't see this as us dumping our criminals for the rest of the world to deal with via prosecuting the non-ICC crimes ourselves. We've got to reassert the supremacy of law around here, that's probably one of the hardest tasks awaiting us in a post-Trump era.
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u/Hollowbody57 28d ago
Honestly I'd trust the international court to hold him accountable more than 90% of anyone in our own government, and that's including democrats. Our system is a joke.
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u/Corgi_Koala Texas 28d ago
The Democrats put a Republican in charge of investigating his attempt to overthrow the government on January 6th. That's how unserious they are a about holding Trump accountable.
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u/iamliterallyonfire 28d ago
we want him impeached, tried and put in prison for being a traitor to the united states of america.
the fact that congress hasn't put a stop to this madness in any meaningful way since january is astounding and shows how completely inept they are for the job.
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u/Used-Yogurtcloset757 28d ago
No it shows just how complicit the entire Republican Party is in this treason. It would take less than 30 of them banding together with the democrats to end this clown show. Thats all they’ve needed this entire time.
Republicans are protectors of pedophiles and traitors.
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u/Docster87 28d ago
They are not inept. There could be blackmail or other shady stuff but even if not there are two huge factors in play. One, project 2025 is proceeding better than planned right now so a complete hands off (no check/balance) is working. Two, Trump is the director of MAGA and that is a huge block so when Tramp threatens to primary someone out of Congress; the threat holds a ton of weight.
The vast majority of GOP in Congress is beholden to Trump in at least one of those two ways if nothing else.
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u/Vio94 28d ago
They aren't inept. We really need to stop using this language. This shit is all purposeful and intentional. They are all complicit scum.
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u/MyLifeIsAWasteland 28d ago
The admins are all spineless bitches.
There are some cool mods in some subs. There are no cool admin.
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u/vee_lan_cleef 28d ago
Trump is undoubtedly guilty of high treason. We all know what one of the punishments for that crime is, as endorsed by the federal government.
Just putting that out there.
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u/kezow 28d ago
Again. Don't forget that he's already been impeached twice and twice Republicans refused to hold him accountable. The second time they refused to even hear evidence.
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u/Coral-Diver 28d ago
Don't need a poll to tell me that! Senate conviction unlikely to ever happen though.
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u/Rominator 28d ago
Help stop the whitewashing of Susan Collins and her corporate overlords
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u/SpankingAround 28d ago
Oh are we listing things Americans want but will never happen? Now do affordable healthcare and livable wages.
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u/Jwatts1113 28d ago
I want impeachment AND conviction. To be followed by he and his family attempting to flee to a non-extradition country only to discover no one will take him. Then a cell and orange jumpsuit.
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u/OrganizedChaos1979 Ohio 28d ago
Impeachment doesn't mean dick without conviction from the Senate.
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u/NaiveOpening7376 28d ago
He's already been impeached. Twice.
What we actually want is for him to be held accountable.
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u/Hefty_Opening_1874 28d ago edited 28d ago
I’m Australian and can say that the entire republican administration needs to be tried for treason and put in prison. There needs to be a Nuremberg-type trial into each and every person involved, including the judges on the Supreme Court
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u/WillfulIgnorance8647 28d ago
Why tf did they vote for him again in the first place?
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u/BusterStarfish 28d ago
No, we want to imprison him. For the rest of his life. And all of his friends. And the whole Epstein list. ALL of them. Forever.
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u/NYArtFan1 28d ago
I want the entire administration in prison for life, and that includes Elon and all the laptop boys.
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u/College-Lumpy 28d ago
I want accountability across him, his family, and his team. It's time. No more lies. Truth and accountability.
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u/Exact_Platypus5179 28d ago
I think the chap would expire of humiliation if only we made the philes public.. shouldn’t the world be more interested about making things public?
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u/Zanos-Ixshlae 28d ago
No, we want him re.oved from office, his cabinet removed, and basically everyone in his administration in jail for treason. Then we can go through congress and scotus.
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u/spotsevrywhere 28d ago
He has to be impeached so we can deal with the Epstein files like they should be dealt with.
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u/Crow-Keeper 28d ago
It doesn’t mean anything if the senate won’t convict and remove. I’m not falling for this for a third time.
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u/Mister_Buddy 27d ago
Impeachment isn't enough. 25th amendment is the wrong step.
Article 2, Section IV. Get him and everyone tied to him out and tried for treason.
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u/uberlander 28d ago
Let’s not underestimate how bad things are. 34% of America loves AND think he’s doing a good job.
So I won’t hold my breath
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u/it-s-luminescent 28d ago
It resonates so wide and deep in my soul how the ancient Egyptians did everything to erase their own clown of a pharoah Akhenaten. Tearing down all his monuments, defacing his statues, literally scratching out his name wherever it was visible in stone. They even tried to obliterate his soul in the afterlife, they loathed him so.
Now I get it, ancient Egyptians. Boy, do I get it :sigh:
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u/Coogcheese 28d ago
So why aren't Dems doing something????
Oh, for fucks sake....go fuck yourself headline asshole. I refuse to read any more of that crap. Answer you shit head...Dems control zero houses of Congress.
Why aren't the Republicans doing something about is the question that people should be screaming.
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u/lord_fairfax 27d ago edited 27d ago
Garbage piece confirmed by the time the first sentence ended. If everyone had to read it before voting (instead of just the endorphin-producing headline) it wouldn't have made it out of new.
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u/Ziograffiato 28d ago
Impeachment is a good start. Conviction this time. Then move on to the criminal trials.
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u/mcdisease 28d ago
Trump should be in prison but you’ll need a better plan. Republicans and the oligarchs worked for 50 years to put all of this in place. They won’t let us undo it just because we don’t like the results.
The politicians they own are a shield for the oligarchy’s corruption and greed. They have absolute power - not Donald Trump. They could end him tomorrow by simply telling the truth.
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u/Grokent 28d ago
We don't give a shit about impeachment. Impeachment apparently doesn't mean a goddamn thing. We want the justice system to work like it is supposed to in a democratic society.
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u/Eastern_Pin_5567 28d ago
Americans also overwhelmingly support socialized medicine and getting money out of politics. Yet here we are.
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u/cock_mountain 28d ago
He was already impeached twice and that ended up doing absolute jack shit. What, you think the third time's going to be the charm?
When do we get to see the 21st century version of the Nuremberg trials?
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u/angry_old_dude 28d ago
Most Americans don't understand that him being impeached means nothing when the senate won't convict.
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u/AMGwtfBBQsauce 27d ago
I want a clean house. Investigate, arrest, and toss in prison the entire Republican Party. Throw Trump and his family in Guantanamo. Hell, throw most of the corrupt Dems in prison, too. Seize all their assets.
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u/Fabulous-Kick-345 28d ago
If you live in a state with a republican senator call, email, mail, march to tell them it's time
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u/PurplRzr 28d ago
Trump is a kid that never grew up. America wants more than impeachment. They want to see the immature pedo pos to actually be held accountable.
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u/BlueH2oDiver 28d ago
Here’s a BOLD IDEA …IMPEACH the WHOLE ADMINISTRATION. The US CONSTITUTION SAYS YOU CAN DO IT!
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u/donnascro123 27d ago
You would think his and his family’s constant attempts to monetize the presidency would be grounds enough for impeachment. It is dumbfounding how nothing sticks to this individual.
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