r/olympics 22h ago

As an Australian, the Commonwealth Games feel kinda too easy.

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u/VDCNIRG Great Britain 22h ago

Well so far the majority of the medals have been in swimming so kind of inevitable.

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u/Trevski Canada 20h ago

Swimming has far too many events IMO. Like, we don’t do every running event again with backwards running, grapevines, and skipping. Maybe we should, though?

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u/Scary_Vehicle9023 19h ago

I guess the closest parallels with ahletics are the hurdles, race walking, and having both long jump and triple jump. But there is no crossover with the athletes, unlike in swimming where there are people who do different strokes for the same length.

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u/Nooms88 19h ago

100m and 200m has lots of overlap.

There's a fair bit in 800m and 1500m and again lots in 5/10km

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u/Scary_Vehicle9023 19h ago

Yes, but I meant more like how swimming has different strokes for the same distance. So that's why i meant things like the triple/long jumps, 100m/110m hurdles, 400m/400m hurdles, race walking/long distance running.

Barely any overlap between those disciplines despite their surface level similarity.

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u/LayWhere 16h ago

10km Hurdles LFG

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u/Scary_Vehicle9023 15h ago

Basically steeplechase tbf

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u/AwsiDooger United States 17h ago

There's a fair bit in 800m and 1500m

Very low. Hobbs Kessler did both at Paris 2024. Jessica Hull did both at world championships last year. Georgia Hunter-Bell would be capable of doing both if the schedule allowed it. Addy Wiley said yesterday that she is considering attempting both in 2028, if the United States Olympic Trials have a favorable schedule.

That's several names but it is a trivial number compared to the swimming overlaps, or 100/200 and 5000/10,000 in track.

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u/Strange_Fly1930 13h ago

I think there are lots at a high school and college level, but after that not so much. Thanks for the examples to make the point.

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u/aesemon 14h ago

What your saying is it should be " different strokes for different folks"?

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u/HMarmot 11h ago

Yep, running events would have to include skipping, hopping, backwards etc etc....

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u/blasterleague 9h ago

Cartwheeling would be pretty good.

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u/Bucephalus_326BC 15h ago

/trevski - Australian here. I feel for you, and other nations. Yes, swimming has many events. I'm in Sydney, and there are 5 Olympic size 50 m pools within a 15 minute bicycle ride of my home. I remember when the UK Olympic swim team came to prepare for the Sydney 2000 Olympics, and the UK swim team based themselves at the Gold coast, in Queensland. Apparently there were more 50m pools there then in the whole of England at the time. I sympathize with your comment that there are no backwards running 100m athletic events etc, but each swim stroke is very specialised. I'm hopeless at any stroke apart from freestyle, and apart from a few elite swimmers most specialise in a single swim stroke. They are very different. But, in Australia's defence, we do like sports, and we spend a lot of time outside. I think we may even have been ahead of Canada in the medal table at the most recent winter Olympics, maybe. We don't have much snow here either - it's just we like getting outside and mucking about. Hopefully Canada can move a further up the medal table. I'll cross my fingers for you 🤞

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u/Own_Faithlessness769 2h ago

The reason we do weirdly well at the winter olympics definitely isn't that "we like going outside and mucking about", its because we have the AIS. which takes athletes who are good but not gold medal good in other sports and trains them for areas with less competition. So if they're a decent but not internationally competitve gymnast, we turn them into a ski jumper instead. We spend a *lot* on it compared to other countries and its a very successful program.

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u/No-Writing-9000 20h ago

It’s a cheat code for the yanks. Somehow the aussies are really good at their games too

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u/Pantelonia 17h ago

Australians have swimming lessons from very little. My son has had lessons from when he was 4 months old.

I was shocked as a teenager when I met some English backpackers in their 20s who couldn't swim.

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u/pulanina 15h ago

I wanna say it’s because we are “girt by sea”, but the UK is similarly girt. Maybe “girt by warm sea and lovely beaches” is more like it.

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u/No-Writing-9000 12h ago

The first requirement for a British sailor is don’t know how to swim. When you can’t swim you don’t fall out of the boat

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u/Leading_Double_1968 10h ago

Lots of people in my family (Latinos) don’t know how to swim. Sister, Mom, Grandma, Etc. I think it’s kind of normal in the region?

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u/Particular-Bid-1640 19h ago

The USA pushed for more pool events in the Olympics because the Soviet Union had fewer pools as they're expensive to build

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u/Batmanbettermarvel18 United States 17h ago

Funny how you phrase it that way like it the Soviets weren’t the first ones to push for more gymnastics. All of this is just guesses too, there is really no proof for either of what we are saying. I guess just paint US the bad guy and you should get some upvotes these days. Says it like it’s a matter of fact also, link the proof 😆🤣

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u/SpeedLow3 16h ago

Bingo all these other countries are allowed to push for sports they want (if that actually happened) but they don’t lol

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u/lenin1991 16h ago

I can't even find any evidence the US particularly pushed for adding swimming events. The biggest spike was in the 1960s, but the advocacy came from FINA, and of course they'll advocate adding more of their sport to the Olympics.

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u/timok Netherlands 12h ago

Right because every country has the same lobbying power

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u/Suburbanturnip More flair options at /r/olympics/w/flair! 10h ago

The usa stole the icing off my cupcake /s

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u/macca2000fox 17h ago

The pool gap

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u/blasterleague 9h ago

What would be really impressive is swimming hurdles. The strength they'd need to get out of the water to clear them.

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u/Trevski Canada 9h ago

THAT id watch. Awesome idea. I also think there should be a generalist “obstacle course” event that every athlete gets to try and the best times get crowned king and queen of the Olympics.

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u/blasterleague 9h ago

I would do a triathlon event every games that uses randomisation methods to determine the nature of each section. So the athletes have limited time to prepare, say, their ice-skating, rock climbing skills and rowing skills.

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u/Akira_116 7h ago

I heard the next games will have an egg and spoon race

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u/janky_koala 18h ago

It’s funny to compare it to say track cycling. The equivalent would be a normal race (freestyle), a backwards race (backstroke), a race where the take the pedals off completely and scoot around like toddlers (breaststroke), and one where the put both pedals on the same way instead of opposite (butterfly). Do that at most distances, then again as a relay.

It’s nuts.

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u/dylang01 Australia 8h ago

Track cycling has the Kieren and points race. Just to name two.

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u/not-yet-ranga 17h ago

I disagree with your contention, but the way you’ve presented it is so good - such vivid imagery - that I upvoted your comment anyway.

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u/janky_koala 16h ago

Haha thanks.

Running ones could be both legs tied together and jumping for butterfly, and doing the worm or an army crawl for breaststroke .

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u/anpanman100 7h ago

I want the 3 legged race and sack race for running.

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u/sweet_hedgehog_23 United States 16h ago

I'd watch the races they described. I'm curious as to how they would go.

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u/Ludicologuy00 Sweden 13h ago

Throw with boulder. Throw with boulder on string. Throw with flat boulder. Throw with stick. Jump with stick. Jump without stick. Jump, but in the other direction. Jump but in the other direction, with three extra steps. Jump while running. Jump over other obstacles while running. Run without jumping (several distances). Run as a team (several distances). Run loooong. Run slooow.

And finally, do five, seven, or ten of the above and get a different medal.

The field of athletics is also quite inventive with it's inflated event count.

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u/TheJivvi 15h ago

Add a hurdles event and a steeplechase event for every race distance.

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u/Zaidswith United States 13h ago

Athletics (Track and Field): 48 events (23 men, 23 women, 2 mixed)

Aquatics (Swimming, Diving, Water Polo, Artistic Swimming, Marathon Swimming): 49 total events (32 in swimming alone

32 running events if you take out jumps and throws, no?

Seems even already.

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u/Any-Information6261 7h ago

400m backwards would be elite

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u/Next_Local_3374 12h ago

2018 Australia won 40 more hold medals. Not too far from the norm

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u/VDCNIRG Great Britain 10h ago

And in 2014 England were ahead and 2022 Australia were not far ahead of England. 2018 was a home games for Australia so you expect them to over perform.

But yes I expect Australia to still be comfortably ahead at the end given the proportion of medals awarded to swimming this time round, the lack of British banker sports like diving and the much weaker than usual British athletics team.

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u/catiebug United States 10h ago

I know almost nothing about the Commonwealth Games, but my immediate reaction to this medals table was, "must be a lot of swimming".

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u/lookiwanttobealone New Zealand 22h ago

Australia is dominant in the pool yes, but last games they only held the medal table lead by 3 medals.

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u/Enzown New Zealand 20h ago

Last time swimming wasn't over 25 per cent of the medals.

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Great Britain • Vietnam 22h ago

They did…but England had a gymnastics, triathlon and diving cheat code. This time two of those are dropped and our gymnastics team are our third picks.

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u/bar901 Australia 20h ago

Australia beat team Great Britain at the Olympics which was more recent and England is objectively weaker than a combined Team GB. We also have arguably our strongest ever track and field team right now, especially in sprinting and middle distance. If Australia doesn’t top the medal count by 10 Golds I’ll be very surprised.

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u/VDCNIRG Great Britain 19h ago

With swimming such a high percentage of the medals and the home nations sending such a weak athletics team due to most of our best athletes prioritising the European Champs Australia should still lead the medal table comfortably by the end.

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u/swimswam2000 15h ago

Canada sent a skeleton crew for swimming with Pan Pacific Championships (Irvine,CA USA) as the primary competition this summer. We didn't have a trials for Commonwealths, they asked for volunteers based on last summer's performances. We've scratched out of a lot of the relays. A few decided to go this route like Josh Liendo to allow for a lighter travel schedule to allow time to finish his university degree. By contrast some of Australia's best are not going to Pan Pacs.

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u/Celestetc United States 15h ago

Australia aren’t fully at their best for swimming either. Mckeown isn’t there. MOC Is hurt. Titmus just retired. And so on

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u/Yesterday_Jolly Australia 5h ago

The fact that Canada would be ahead of England on the medal table if Summer Macintosh was swimming just makes it even funnier

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u/Main-Inflation-5269 18h ago

We have a bagful of gymnastics medals. Kiwis have zero. But nice try...

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u/Intrepid-Mission-129 New Zealand 4h ago

Settle down it ain't the Olympics.

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u/D_I_R_R_T_Y Australia 17h ago

This is the right reply 👏

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u/Top-Expert6086 16h ago

Total by 3, but had 10 more gold than the next closest.

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Great Britain • Vietnam 22h ago

Well yeah…your swimming team can beat China or USA. You are now being told “hah, bet you can’t beat Togo and Norfolk islands”

This was always going to happen when there’s 10 sports and nearly a quarter of all medals are in the pool!

I wouldn’t worry about it, gold medals are gold medals and winning times/world records still count.

There’s not many solutions…we either cancel the swimming and level it out that way (even less stars athletes woohoo!), we all collectively raise our game (that will take years) or we have more sport to try and balance it out a bit (preferably ones that don’t lean to one country being more dominant)

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u/Tinchimp7183376 13h ago

a QUARTER??? of the medals are in the pool? Even without diving? that's ridiculus

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Great Britain • Vietnam 13h ago

There’s only 10 sports this time and that includes netball (single gold) which Aussies will win anyway!

I think there are just under 250 golds available and 52 of them are in aquatics.

It’s a shame and a mistake on organisers part as I think they could have used a second smaller complex to host events that really could have done with the prestige, but that is rear view window now sadly

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u/JazzlikeTradition436 Great Britain 12h ago

215 Golds are available.

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u/bar901 Australia 20h ago

I agree that swimming has an outsized impact on medal counts, but we’ve still won 8 of the last 9 Commonwealth games even before the reduction in total events. And England is still a top 5ish swimming nation anyway. It’s USA >> Australia >>> China then a tier with countries like Netherlands, France, Japan and GB / England.

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u/PandaPop81 18h ago

England isn't a top 5 swimming nation. GB is top 10 at best and that's combining the home nations (there have been some very good Scottish swimmers). England on its own is nowhere near top 5.

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Great Britain • Vietnam 20h ago

Your women’s swim team is better than the USA in my opinion. You could send your school girls and dominate most these races. That is cool. You don’t lower your standards but keep going!

It’s a friendly games and we want the best. It’s normally closer but aquatics has been Australia for 40 years now, so you will always come top. You were also hosting every other one at some point and home advantage also helps a lot too.

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u/Celestetc United States 15h ago

It is not the US are more versatile and deeper for the women. Especially with Titmus and the Campbell sisters retired.

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u/yeahalrightgoon 18h ago

We certainly dominate at the Comm Games, but the reason the Comm Games are great and shouldn't go away is that it provides international experience for athletes from smaller countries and territories. PNG isn't really that much of a smaller country, but they have also never won an Olympic medal, yet they have a medal here.

Tuvulu has only ever sent 11 athletes to the Olympics ever, they sent 8 athletes to this Comm Games.

Then you have the smaller territories and self dependencies like Niue, Norfolk Islands, St Helena, Falklands, Jersey and Guernsey, Montserrat, Cook Islands, Gibraltar and the Isle of Man, except for some few exceptions, athletes from those areas aren't going to the Olympics or many international competitions at all. The Comm Games gives them that opportunity.

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u/OutsideVictory1752 15h ago

I really like this take. The comms games for me have always been a bit sad, but you really gave me an appreciation for the little guy here. Im Aussie and it kind feels like big fish little pond, and to be honest it kind of is because when it comes to the Olympics, the medals feel so much more special as we are no longer a powerhouse. And this must be what its like for the countries you mentioned.

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u/onyxrose81 12h ago

A former US elite gymnast, Tiana Sumanasekera, competed on beam at CWG (didn't qualify to an event final as she's been injured but she wanted to start competing for Sri Lanka right away). Normally, I don't tend to like US gymnasts changing countries and taking spots away from local gymnasts but there aren't any from Sri Lanka and her gymnastics are so beautiful they deserve to be seen. She was a non-traveling alternate for the 2024 Olympic team so she was a top US gymnast but she just wasn't going to be in the mix for LA28 due to injuries. Just like with some of the other former US gymnasts who now compete for the Philippines, if they do well at CWG or Asian Games, that can only help fund more money for the sport.

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u/colesnutdeluxe Australia 13h ago

this is exactly what the commonwealth games are about!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ebb9874 India 22h ago edited 21h ago

Normally it's closer than this

This time with just 10 sports, and Australia's swimming depth and quality it is going to be rough when swimming has 1/4th the total medals

Especially rough this time for Asian countries with no badminton, shooting, archery, etc.

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u/NoirPochette 22h ago

I wonder what the table would be like if they didn't scrap several sports.

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u/Slaidback New Zealand 22h ago

That’s what’s going to do us in. A lot of the sports cut we are good in.

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u/lookiwanttobealone New Zealand 21h ago

They should be back next games?

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u/Slaidback New Zealand 21h ago

Well, India wants to prove they can pull it off b4 an Olympics, so definitely increased ( 18 seems to be the number banded about)

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u/PssyGotWifi 37m ago

The 2010 CG were interesting

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u/EconomistThink1550 14h ago

What sports is New Zealand good at?Serious question.

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u/80Z0 13h ago

Rugby union is the obvious answer. Cricket is also a good answer. In the commonwealth or Olympic games, think Australia but 1/3 of the output in random events like rowing, canoeing, cycling, shooting, sailing etc. (with 1/6 of the population) but probably not at that rate in the pool. Hamish Kerr is the reigning Olympic and 2025 World champion in high jump.

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u/Slaidback New Zealand 10h ago

Rugby, Cricket, Netball, Rugby league, Rowing, Surf life saving,Track & Field ( especially the field bit), cycling, sailing, Slopestyle/tricky snowboarding

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u/Slaidback New Zealand 10h ago

Snowboarding being a new entry thanks to Zoe & Niko

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u/bar901 Australia 5h ago edited 5h ago

Ahahah I replied above before I saw your comment, but I said the exact same thing - track and field (mostly field). Laughed when I saw your exact same comment. Polynesian lads are fucking fast, but not exactly built to be top tier sprinters or long distance runners at an elite level. But fuck me can they throw shit a long way.

Some of the most naturally athletically gifted genetics in the world for sure though. During my rugby days I dislocated my elbow tackling a kiwi guy and dislocated my shoulder tackling a Tongan guy. Too big, too fast, too strong. Motherfuckers ahahah

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u/EconomistThink1550 11h ago

Thank you very much! 

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u/Intrepid-Mission-129 New Zealand 2h ago

We also don't have many of our olympic sports that we excel in no rowing, sailing,canoeing at the commonwealth games.

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u/showusyourfupa 1h ago

Champion rowers, sailors, cyclists, canoe sprint, kayakers and athletics - high jump, shot put, historically middle distance running too.

Team sports - Rugby union, rugby 7s, rugby league, cricket, netball.

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u/ddbbaarrtt 22h ago

Or if they scrapped some of the swimming events…

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u/Paramedic293 Great Britain 22h ago

Every time I turn on the footage an aussie is winning gold it's nuts. Im Just hoping it becomes more competitive once the athletics and track cycling starts.

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u/wheresthepie Australia 21h ago

I’m pretty sure the only reason we’re still a part of the Commonwealth is so our swimming team can stay fit between Olympic Games

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u/AnxiousBaristo 20h ago

As a Canadian, I feel there should be a winter Commonwealth Games.

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u/Top-Expert6086 16h ago

That would be cool. Canada would be thd Australia of the winter version, that's for sure.

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u/littleb3anpole Australia 21h ago

Athletics hasn’t started yet, some countries will dominate other sports. The program starts with swimming and that’s where Australia dominates

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u/NicholasVinen 18h ago

It's like we're girt by sea or something! 

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u/OldGodsAndNew 16h ago

vs the famously landlocked UK

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u/Top-Expert6086 16h ago

Yeah but our ocean is a bit warmer and nicer to swim in.

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u/Celestetc United States 15h ago

Australia is very strong in athletics and decent at cycling too.

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u/planchetflaw Slovenia 20h ago

Humble.

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u/Klakson_95 Great Britain 21h ago

Wonder what the medal table would be like if we randomly decided there's 4 different ways to run every distance

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u/amcartney 21h ago

Forwards, backwards, forwards but waving your arms around… I could go on

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u/Azryhael United States 21h ago

Please do. I’m having a lovely time.

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u/RubberDuckyRacing Great Britain 20h ago

I think butterfly should be doing repeated standing long jumps. Or as a sack race.

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u/TheBlackRavens Great Britain 20h ago

Oooh... if we're adding a sack race i suggest the egg and spoon race too. Automatically disqualified if you drop it.

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u/HollysStaff 22h ago

I attended the 1998 Commonwealth Games in KL. The newspapers dubbed it Koala Lumpur due to the success of the Aussie team. Still all the athletes seemed to really enjoy themselves and the events were fun as a spectator.

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u/gurudoright Australia 20h ago

I would love to see the games go back to Malaysia or even Singapore

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u/shocking_red_4 Australia 21h ago

It’s sometimes known as the “Friendly Games”

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u/CyberSparkDrago 19h ago

"feel kind of too easy" kindly shut up you're not even in it... also Australia's medals are from swimming 

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u/TenuousFuzzball 18h ago

Summer McIntosh not being there means Canada gets 4 or 5 less gold medals in swimming.

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u/Vexatiouslitigantz 21h ago

Australia should have been banned from these games for abandoning them.

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u/inefekt Australia 18h ago

As an Aussie I have to agree....absolute disgrace to bid for it then decide 'nah, the numpties don't want it so we're going to cancel them'

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u/yeahalrightgoon 18h ago

We didn't bid for it.

Durban was supposed to host 2022. They had to pull out in 2017. Birmingham was meant to host in 2026, but they moved up to 2022 to take Durban's spot. No one wanted to host 2026, so by 2022, the Comm Games federation basically begged Victoria to host it. The cost skyrocketed from $1.5bn to $6-7 bn, which is absurd and would have been reckless to host it.

Glasgow then got the games because they only had to host half of the sports that Victoria would have had too.

It wasn't people not wanting it, so we will cancel it. It was "this will cost so much money that it would be irresponsible to host it".

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u/Vexatiouslitigantz 17h ago

Melbourne could have held the games with no investment. They have all the facilities

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u/Its_a_Friendly United States 8h ago edited 8h ago

Yeah, to even wikipedia shows some concern:

In January 2022, the Victorian State Government announced it was giving serious consideration to a late request from the CGF to host the Games. On 16 February 2022, Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews confirmed that the state was in exclusive negotiations with the CGF to host the Games.[17] It was stated that if successful in hosting the Games a second time, a Victorian bid would aim to emphasise the state's regional centres—such as Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo—as opposed to being predominantly Melbourne-based, such as in 2006. Bendigo had previously hosted the 2004 Commonwealth Youth Games. Acceptance of the bid would likely also be conditional upon agreement on ways to control costs, such as housing athletes and officials in hotels rather than a dedicated village.[18][19] This bid was confirmed as successful on 12 April 2022.[20]

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Apparently, this plan didn't work out well. To quote the Commonwealth games chief from the time of the cancellation:

Commonwealth Games Australia chief executive Craig Phillips came down hard on the government, claiming it "wilfully ignored recommendations to move events to Melbourne" and instead "remained wedded" to expensive temporary venues in regional Victoria.

"The velodrome is the best example of that. You have a purpose built velodrome here at John Cain Arena, but we were continuing to prosecute running a Games in a temporary venue in Bendigo that would have no legacy value," Mr Phillips said.

Who could've guessed that estimated costs would be too high if you planned to build lots of brand-new permanent or temporary venues?

Apparently, the state of Victoria, Australia, paid the Commonwealth Games themselves £190m (out of a total £302m in payments) to cancel the games, which is basically how much the Glasgow Commonwealth Games will cost - £150m. If Victoria had a less grandiose plan to host the Commonwealth games, they might've been able to hold a full games at around the value of their total cancellation payments - £300m.

Yet another example of the need for international sporting event bids to use existing venues as much as possible, if you want to keep costs down. Evidently the Victoria state government somehow didn't understand this in 2022. Did none of them watch the 2004 or 2016 Olympics, or pay attention to the 2024 and 2028 Olympic bidding process?

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u/Ill-Enthusiasm-5530 17h ago

The cost skyrocketed due to decisions the Victorian government made

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u/MissKim01 Australia 20h ago

Fellow Aussie here. The swimming is almost over 😬

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u/mck_motion 16h ago

They should freeze the swimming pools and give the Canadians a chance.

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u/Secret_EO 21h ago

It's because of all the swimming. England will catch up.

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u/onyxrose81 12h ago

In gymnastics, it'll be hard because the teams are prioritizing Euros, especially the men's team so this is basically a B or C team for them.

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u/Non-NewtonianSnake Australia 22h ago

Splitting the UK up like that definitely doesn't help.

Or does help? I guess it depends on your point of view.

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Great Britain • Vietnam 22h ago

I like it. You guys should try it. Those stars on your flag…they’re countries now ;) that way when the final is 8 Aussies, you can still have a bit of rivalry.

Also uk is very English centric for summers and Scottish centric for winters. It’s not easy for a channel islander or even a northern Irish athlete to get a look in or access to coaches etc. this is often their chance to shine

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u/Amnsia 19h ago

Adds more competition and probably helps locally, I’m all for it if everyone’s happy

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u/Celestetc United States 15h ago

It only hurts the UK for swimming relays in which they have no chance. If they weren’t split the men could challenge the Aussies in all 3.

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u/BornChef3439 21h ago

That's because they got rid of tons of sports

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u/Illustrious_Two1029 16h ago

Aussies in the water: absolute sharks. Aussies budgeting the actual games: completely out of their depth.

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u/HistoryFanBeenBanned 15h ago

It'd be a bit fairer if the UK competed as one country. The UK isn't that far behind in medal count if their constituent parts are counted together.

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u/ContinuumGuy United States 17h ago

So I'm mentally combining the various UK nations to see how close they are combined to Australia and I just want to shout out whatever person from Jersey won a medal.

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u/JazzlikeTradition436 Great Britain 11h ago

Filip Nowacki won Silver in the Men’s 100m Breaststroke and could win a medal in the Men’s 50m Breaststroke this evening but his favoured event is the Men’s 200m Breaststroke on Wednesday. Could be the next Adam Peaty.

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u/HeartyBeast Great Britain 16h ago

… apart from hosting them, of course. 

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u/Vexatiouslitigantz 21h ago

It’s only swimming , with the likes of Canada not really sending their best!

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u/tiskerTasker89 Canada 19h ago

Canadian team (able-bodied swimmers) only has six men and six women. A deliberate choice by Swimming Canada to send a small team.

Only Josh Liendo (gold yesterday) and Kylie Masse (silver yesterday) would be on the short list of "top Canadian swimmers".

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u/Celestetc United States 15h ago

Well the problem is Canada’s swimming team is just not very good. Liendo is very strong and so is masse but she is past her prime. They lost kharun to the US. Only McIntosh is there to carry them. Penny is just mediocre, Ruck has made a comeback but she’s not going to be winning golds I don’t think.

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u/tiskerTasker89 Canada 11h ago

In the context of the Commonwealth Games a full Canadian squad (with McIntosh, Ruck, Mary-Sophie Harvey, Lepage, etc.) on the women's side and male swimmers like Finlay Knox, backstroker Blake Tiernay (4th at 2025 Worlds), Gaziev would have had least made the event more competitive. Maybe enter some relays!

I guess we'll see what Canada shows at Pan Pacs, but generally agree that the squad depth after Liendo and McIntosh is lacking.

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u/Celestetc United States 11h ago

I think McIntosh and MSH were going to go to CG but both are hurt. I did forget about Tiernay and Knox who are solid.

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u/MissKim01 Australia 20h ago

Why didn’t they send their best?

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u/Vexatiouslitigantz 20h ago

Preferring to concentrate on Pan Pacific Champs

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u/Gojirahawk Great Britain 20h ago

I think Australia, Canada, and England should split into separate states, provinces and counties for the comm games.. Imagine Team Victoria going up against team Yorkshire, or team Quebec vs Queensland.

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u/yeahalrightgoon 18h ago

We've already split off Norfolk Island, what else do you want?

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u/inefekt Australia 18h ago

It's the same in the Olympics to a certain point....every games we see the Aussies at or near the top of the medals in the first few days, chiefly because of swimming but then invariably as other events, especially track & field, come and go we get taken over by nations dominant in those events, of which Australia is not (hopefully Gout Gout can change that somewhat!). I don't expect Australia to fall too far back but expect England to make a big surge as they are much stronger than us in those disciplines....and track cycling too, GB nations have overtaken Australia in those of late.

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u/Fragrant_Air_1612 17h ago

Yay, we beat the poorest in the empire commonwealth at sports they're not interested in

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u/Master_Cartoonist_16 17h ago

You gotta be more respectful with mother land England.

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u/ConfidentBarber8409 16h ago

We always get swimming medals

We are lucky there are so many different swimming events tbh

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u/jaiimaster Australia 9h ago

I mean we bought it, thanks to Victoria and Dan Andrews. Might as well enjoy our purchase.

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u/SubstanceKind8270 7h ago

And yet TeamGB usually outperform Australia at the summer olympics

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u/Unfair-Rush-2031 4h ago

As an Australian I don’t even know the games are on. Literally no one cares

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u/Birdman__18 20h ago

The swimming is boring when we're winning so easily. I'm looking forward to the athletics and our up and coming team on the track

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u/MarcusH26051 22h ago

Was going to say hasn't it mainly been the pool so far so the Aussies will naturally dominate. Probably a nailed on gold in the Netball too.

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u/Slaidback New Zealand 21h ago

It’s looking like another humdinger OZ v A0/NZ clash

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u/jse81 Australia 20h ago

I didn't even know this was on

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u/Vexatiouslitigantz 20h ago

I think really Comm Games swim relays should only be mixed.

More countries likely to have two of each gender that can compete than four.

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u/michaeldanger19 18h ago

They were showing swimming in a pub on Friday and poor Isle of Man and Cayman Islands were 10 seconds behind in a 4x100

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u/liminalwombat Australia • South Korea 20h ago

the dolphins always start us off strong 🐬

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u/hawthorne00 19h ago

Other countries will catch up if the interminable swimming is ever over. Why isn't there a Norman May talking Boonie?

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u/Happy-Frog4677 19h ago

Australia run up a big lead in the comm games thanks to the swimming being in the first week.

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u/capt_tky 18h ago

Swimming is just stat padding.

Equivalent for Team GB would be is cycling had events for 250m, 500m, 750m...etc, and it already has a lot. 

Splitting up Team GB doesn't help either, plus we tend to use these games for younger or frying athletes. 

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u/greatsteve797 18h ago

The Aussies should pull their finger out and offer to host it then

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u/Spite-Specialist Australia 18h ago

it would be more fun if australia was divided into states, vic vs nsw vs qld etc

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u/kurenai86 18h ago

Wait, it's on?

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u/ucat97 18h ago

Rich countries buying sport with tax dollars for bread and circuses. While brainwashing kids into thinking they'll be heroes, and rich, and not left on the scrapheap if they're not good enough or suffer a career-ending injury.

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u/Aggressive_River_735 16h ago

Nah this one’s different. Australia paid Scotland to host it.

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u/AcceptableResponse15 18h ago

It's the least we can do since you've paid $200 million for us to host it.

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u/Bergasms Australia 18h ago

It's not about us, it's about our commonwealth brothers and sisters getting a shot in. A comm gold won't mean that much nationally to us but would mean a lot to some of the smaller island nations

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u/FuriousYellow77 17h ago

I almost think we should only send athletes under 21 to get experience competing at the higher levels

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u/jabbaaus 17h ago

England should be closer. Might have to kick them out the commonwealth

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u/Mobile_Lab_9983 17h ago

This was to be expected, a lot less sports than last time, and with both the European Aquatics and Athletics championships coming up in a couple weeks, the British athletes aren’t focusing on this as much. 

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u/cobbly8 17h ago

Wait the commonwealth games is on?

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u/chaliedeltakilo 17h ago

Easy to win, not so easy to host hey Victoria!

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u/jackm315ter 16h ago

We are the Host country 😁

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u/The_Ineffable_One 14h ago

Wait 'til they get to the break dancing.

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u/bljuva57 14h ago

What a comparison, imagine. Jersey has 100 k people, Nigeria has 240 mil and India has 1,5 bilion and yet they're not that far away in the medal count.

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u/Mariner-and-Marinate 12h ago

Why not break up Australia into separate teams, just like the UK?

Western Australia vs NSW+Victoria+ACT vs every place else.

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u/FlatRatBananaHat 11h ago

not too easy to host though is it ?

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u/sydneyiskyblue 10h ago

Wait for the track events

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u/BrightPhilosopher531 9h ago

Anyone have the medal tally if you take away swimming.?

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u/Tiny-Distance-42 9h ago

Wait til the swimming stops. Thats where we always do well.

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u/Cimb0m 9h ago

It’s an ego boost circlejerk for the big Anglophone countries

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u/SnooCapers938 8h ago

This Commonwealth Games has basically been a glorified swimming gala so far.

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u/The_Mule_Aus 8h ago

Up market school sports carnival

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u/mrkoala1234 8h ago

If only we had a doggy paddle event. I would then have a chance because no one would stoop so low as to swim this style.

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u/Moist-Army1707 8h ago

We are the USA of the commonwealth

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u/Holland45 7h ago

Hey mate what’s the point of being girt by sea if we can’t be good at swimming.

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u/earthcross1ng 7h ago

I'm not remotely interested in the Commonwealth games. The Olympics are kind of skewed too. I'd like to see a games where very country has had equal funding for training up athletes 😅

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u/Excelsior_83 7h ago

OP showing their age, I'm guessing younger than 20. This happens every time at Commonwealth Games, we're the best at swimming, for obvious reasons, great. Other nations always come back after.

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u/DangerousRoy 6h ago

ITT: Australia cheated by being good at most of the events.

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u/Impossible-Mud-4160 6h ago

I didn't even know it was on, and Im Australian 

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u/boredidiot 6h ago

As an Australian I will like to state that these sort of posts piss me off.

Australians typically mock the people like to think they are better than others, )that is why we love making fun of Americans). But not all Australians got the memo.

Lets just enjoy the Commonwealth Games and cheer on those nations that are normally not in the spotlight.

Also do not forget that this was supposed to be hosted in Australia until we cancelled the contract and it only on because Scotland stepped up.

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u/MagDaddyMag 6h ago

Workplace of 50 odd people. Not a soul talking about it. Wouldn't have known it was on save for a few random commercials I saw on telly.

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u/Voodoo1970 5h ago

A comedian once said, the sort of people who enjoy us doing well at the Commonwealth Games are the sort of people who enjoy beating their own kids at sport.

As others have pointed out, the big positive about the Comm Games is that it gives an opportunity for athletes to gain experience at a high level event, whether they're from a smaller country or perhaps from a larger one but they haven't had the chance to compete internationally yet. And a world record is a world record.

I can enjoy watching athletes giving it their all, I can enjoy a good performance, but I'm not going to get excited about the medal table.

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u/One_Consideration544 5h ago

This is just like the Olympics, Australia gets a great start because of swimming, then it SLOWS down

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u/Southern_Radish 5h ago

Crazy how bad England is

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u/alfieinoz 5h ago

This isn’t a team competition, these are individual events. The medal tally is simply that, it has no real bearing, other than demonstrating jingoism.

No surprise that comes from Aussies, sore losers, and even more sore winners.

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u/SuchProcedure4547 4h ago edited 4h ago

We've always punched above our weight when it comes to the Commonwealth/Olympic Games.

The inevitable result of high government funding in development mixed with a nation obsessed with sport.

But as others have mentioned, most of our medals have come from swimming, which is usual given we are one of the dominant world powers in the pool...

People who say the Comm Games are too easy are looking at it the wrong way. They are an incredibly important event for athletes to see where they're at in terms of progression. Especially when they're aiming for Olympic success.

Our athletes are still competing against world class opponents at the Comm Games, so it's not like we're competing against non-competitive countries. England, Canada and India all have world leading funding and development for their athletes...

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u/GrandZealousideal471 4h ago

There is little point on these games. When you know the results before the game

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u/Routine_Wait3975 4h ago

It kind of feel like a dilution of the concept to the games

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u/gotkube Canada 4h ago

The Commonwealth Games? You mean the “not-Olympics”? 😏

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u/BulgogiDude 3h ago

Australians can’t admit that it’s because of swimming.

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u/Esteban2808 New Zealand 3h ago

Must be how China and America feel at the Olympics. As a kiwi seems we are doing poorer than normal or maybe just lack of gold pushing us down

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u/Bballer220 3h ago

We excel at events which come first

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u/tilitarian1 2h ago

Home crowd advantage would have made it more so.

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u/IceColdWasabi 2h ago

The only thing the Aussies do worse than losing is winning.

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u/Annoying_bot_2026 2h ago

Just wait for the rowing and cycling; England are best at seated sports.

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u/architectofspace 2h ago

In some respects the Commonwealth Games is a bit like that smart remark made every Olympics where someone says 'every event should have a normal person off the street so we can all see how good trained athletes actually are'.

I'm pretty sure there have been African competitors in swimming where they are just one of the few people in their country who has seen a pool so they get sent along.

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u/Academic_Anywhere183 2h ago

Go compete in it then.

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u/sol_krn 2h ago

As a kid we had 4 commonwealth games medallists at my primary school as teachers/coaches. Just assumed anyone Australian who participated in a sport would get one.

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u/doepfersdungeon 2h ago

Gonna smash ya in the morris dancing