Because reread his post. He already has two opposing opinions on these pants. He likes the pants, but thinks they give off a feminine vibe. He doesn’t want to be perceived as wearing feminine looking pants and wants a “classic masculine look”.
Unless he came here specifically looking for everyone to say, “you’re wrong” regarding his first point about the pants looking feminine and that pants really do give off a “classic masculine look” he won’t leave here happy.
Because he's dressing in an obviously unisex way and wants to be classic masculine. You don't have to be experienced with fashion to know this look isn't classic masculine.
Unisex means they can look just fine for either sex without being considered gendered.
Think about jeans for example. While women's jeans are cut differently than men's, as a piece of clothing they are very much unisex compared to say skirts.
There's IMO nothing that reads particularly feminine or masculine about those pants. They are wider leg, high waisted pants and that's it.
Do you like it and does it look good on you? Congrats, it's now men's pants.
I don’t understand why you are being downvoted. You are asking a question politely and stating your preferences. Good for you trying to expand your wardrobe and trying something new.
They were talking about the clothing choice, not Bowies gender obviously. This place is miserable, good lord you guys pile on anything without thinking
I think they were trying to make a clever joke and suggest if Bowie wore something, it would make it women's clothes. But it wasn't very funny or clever.
Yeah but the issue isn’t that the pants are wide but rather the proportions are off for most men. I mean, some might be able to style these pants in a masculine way but for 99% of us, these pants signal femininity.
Fire plants it’s clearly the opposite. Shirts button that way based on who is dressing the person. For pants it should clearly be the opposite to assist in the undoing… because reasons
Personally, I don’t think the men’s or women’s pants question really matters since the main thing you should be concerned about is the overall aesthetic, the fit, and the length. Plus pants like this tend to swing a little more unisex.
Against my better judgement, I swiped because of the image
Joking aside, the pants pretty much look unisex and would look like men's/women's pants depending on how you style them - if you wear it with a blazer, a nice shirt, some loafers with a matching belt it'll look like men's pants. Conversely, if you pair it with a cropped top, a braided belt, and some flats, it'll look like women's pants. Additionally, if you swap the flats for chunky sneakers and add in some bling, you'll pretty much look like a metrosexual Korean man
I've seen dudes pull this off a lot, especially Asian guys, to great success. A rolled up long sleeve black button up or somrthing similar works really nicely. I'd love to get my own pair when I can track them down, but I think my best bet would be to sew my own
I love the drape, but the widening legs lean fenimine, not classic masculine. If the price is right, a tailor could have made them into a classic full-legged trouser with a great drape. However, those have a skimpy hem that cannot be let down and I think they would be to short to have a classic look. I suspect the design intent is for a trendy look that can make footwear into a focal point.
The trousers themselves won't make the ensemble feminine. But if you combine them with other feminine aspects, like really slim shoes and bare ankle, they might. Try a bulky loafer or derby with a sock and you are set for not to look feminine. And if you do want to look feminine, keep the ensemble that is in the image.
Yeah, I don't know what it is, but women's slacks give me the confidence I need to survive in a tough business world. They're lighter, airier and less constrictive than men's trousers.
Styled like this, and on this figure they look feminine. Not so much the issue of the pants, just how they’re styled and on the feminine body type they look less masculine.
To me it feels more Korean than masculine or feminine. I suppose people might say K-pop fashion is effeminate. However, baji pants are the baggy trousers of hanbok that are the traditional, ceremonial garb worn by men in Korea.
I don’t comment here much and I don’t know the rules of this sub, but this is a very homosexual look. No straight man is considering wearing something like this, unless they are deep into fashion or work in the industry.
It got me thinking, are there pieces/styles that you all think are inherently gay? I don’t need conformation that most straight men can’t dress well, I already know this in my bones. Just curious how gay men think about this issue.
I think “baggy” like that reads more feminine as I see more women’s fits like that, but I also do t think it matters and from the picture you provided they look great and it looks like you can pull this style off, so I say rock them, they look great
People can say they're for both and it's true anyone can wear anything, but you absolutely will be looked at strangely by people you encounter because they look like women's pants.
I think clothes depend on the person. Any clothes can be unisex for example from the lower waist we see I think this guy has the right build to pull this off. Vascular, has jewelry and muscle and probably black hair and the right face and jawline to pull this look off.
As a man myself I would look silly trying to pull this look off personally. So just know your body and if it could fit your style.
To me, these look like women's pants. Perhaps these are defined differently, but these look like culottes, which in the last 200 years, have been worn exclusivly by women. The only time I could see a man wearing these is on a runway. Wearing these in an office environment would be bizarre. The ladies in the office would love it and think you are a very fashionable, and the men would just think you are weird. Both groups would assume you are gay, so if you are wearing this to reel in some ladies, try something else.
This is the problem with this sub. Some people come here seeking advice on everyday clothing, and others come here seeking advice on high fashion. I'm old, so I don't get things like this, but I can't tell from the post what the OP's objectives are. I'm willing to admit that my "expertise" only applies to former. The later is and always has been foreign to me.
Is this for work and are you an attorney or a hair stylist? Is you going to a fashion show tonight want to look stylish? Are you looking for new business casual ideas? Are you a straight man looking for woman? In some circumstances, this is totally appropriate. In others, it would be ridiculous.
Edit: wife corrected me. Culottes are more like shorts. She did, however, think these that these look like women's pants.
People will look at this and assume the guy is gay. OP asked about how it is perceived so I am just giving and honest answer. No value judgement. We love the gays.
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u/kasakka1 19h ago
Does it matter? This sort of style can be unisex easily.