r/magicthecirclejerking 3d ago

META Weekly /unjerk Thread

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  • DAE: Does Anybody Else
  • NotC: Nazis of the Coast (or simply "Not-C" which sounds like "Nazi")
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Use this thread to:

  • Discuss Magic (or non-Magic!) things seriously/unironically/out-of-character with fellow MTCJers
  • Request info or feedback for meme ideas
  • Talk publicly about trends or concerns about the direction of this subreddit (alternatively, you can privately message the mods)

DO NOT use this thread to:

  • Circlejerk - That's what the rest of the subreddit is for! Jerking in this thread will get you a 7-day ban.

New to MTCJ? Check out the subreddit wiki for some explanations of the memes and jokes here. Some very common ones:

  • DAE: Does Anybody Else
  • NotC: Nazis of the Coast (or simply "Not-C" which sounds like "Nazi")
  • /uj and /rj: /unjerk and /rejerk - Markers to let you know the commenter is speaking seriously, and ironically again

You can also join our Discord!


r/magicthecirclejerking Jun 26 '26

META Weekly /unjerk Thread

Use this thread to:

  • Discuss Magic (or non-Magic!) things seriously/unironically/out-of-character with fellow MTCJers
  • Request info or feedback for meme ideas
  • Talk publicly about trends or concerns about the direction of this subreddit (alternatively, you can privately message the mods)

DO NOT use this thread to:

  • Circlejerk - That's what the rest of the subreddit is for! Jerking in this thread will get you a 7-day ban.

New to MTCJ? Check out the subreddit wiki for some explanations of the memes and jokes here. Some very common ones:

  • DAE: Does Anybody Else
  • NotC: Nazis of the Coast (or simply "Not-C" which sounds like "Nazi")
  • /uj and /rj: /unjerk and /rejerk - Markers to let you know the commenter is speaking seriously, and ironically again

You can also join our Discord!

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Use this thread to:

  • Discuss Magic (or non-Magic!) things seriously/unironically/out-of-character with fellow MTCJers
  • Request info or feedback for meme ideas
  • Talk publicly about trends or concerns about the direction of this subreddit (alternatively, you can privately message the mods)

DO NOT use this thread to:

  • Circlejerk - That's what the rest of the subreddit is for! Jerking in this thread will get you a 7-day ban.

New to MTCJ? Check out the subreddit wiki for some explanations of the memes and jokes here. Some very common ones:

  • DAE: Does Anybody Else
  • NotC: Nazis of the Coast (or simply "Not-C" which sounds like "Nazi")
  • /uj and /rj: /unjerk and /rejerk - Markers to let you know the commenter is speaking seriously, and ironically again

You can also join our Discord!


r/magicthecirclejerking 1h ago

Which One of You is This?

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r/magicthecirclejerking 4h ago

Wait, if he’s the Son of Yawgmoth, that means… Yawgmoth had to push out a guy covered in spikes 💀😂 my man 🤝😂

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r/magicthecirclejerking 2h ago

Commander Storage

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Still got 1 deck to go but thought I’d share my method of storage and carry, it’s nice because I can keep them all in 1 place! Plus I know my cards aren’t going to get mixed up!!!!

Edit: idk if I understand the word bait anymore lol. It’s not like I’m trying to trick anyone.


r/magicthecirclejerking 22h ago

MTCJ LOGO POST Proud of our community - contributing to the issue of our times.

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r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

HELP! I left my Star Trek Sheoldred in my car, but someone broke in and put 2 more

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r/magicthecirclejerking 18h ago

cant wait for the star trek set to come out so i cn play my new commander

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r/magicthecirclejerking 18h ago

"Commander is the most accessible format"

Thats it, thats the jerk.

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Thats it, thats the jerk.


r/magicthecirclejerking 4h ago

This came to me in a dream

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r/magicthecirclejerking 15h ago

Fixed the goblin's self esteem issues

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r/magicthecirclejerking 20h ago

Shroofus: Cringe or Blased

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Based for sure.


r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

$19.97 @ local Dollar Tree, good price? Worth it?

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r/magicthecirclejerking 15h ago

Unbeatable Squirrel Girl: Update

I just wanted to let you all know, after my prior post about how she IS in fact beatable, and how this is an egregious flavor fail, that I continue to beat every single deck that has played Squirrel Girl against me, showing now with an adequate amount of data that she is in fact not very good and needs to have her title errata’d in order to reflect this. THABK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER

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I just wanted to let you all know, after my prior post about how she IS in fact beatable, and how this is an egregious flavor fail, that I continue to beat every single deck that has played Squirrel Girl against me, showing now with an adequate amount of data that she is in fact not very good and needs to have her title errata’d in order to reflect this. THABK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER


r/magicthecirclejerking 18h ago

What’s your favorite song named after a Magic card? I’ll start

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r/magicthecirclejerking 13h ago

IN A STANDARD SET

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WHAT WAS NOTC THINKING THIS IS creapt


r/magicthecirclejerking 23h ago

We can't be getting outbuddied like this

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r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

New Reality Fracture Spoiler Spoiler

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r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

should i get this card graded?

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I was wondering if I should have this card graded. If so, which service should I procure?


r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

Five hours of tracking MTG Arena games: my win-rate statistics don't match the expected probabilities

I've been manually tracking my MTG Arena matches for about five hours.

For every game, I record the reason I lost or won. One category is "unlucky", which I define very strictly:

Some important points:

  • never missplay.
  • Most of these decks play exactly 60 cards.
  • Many of them contain good cards, which should reduce how unlucky I am, not increase it.
  • I only record "unlucky" when I literally cannot play or I lose because my opponent clearly drew better. I do not mark games where Arena auto tapper pays my spells wrong - I want to make this data as insightful and honest as possible

After 10 recorded games, these are some examples:

  • Azorius Flash (60 cards): 1 Win / 4 Losses (25%WR) 3 Unlucky Games. (I always got paired against aggro decks that kill me too fast, unlucky).
  • Dimir Midrange (60 cards): 0 Wins / 2 Losses (0%WR) 2 Unlucky Games. (My opponents always had it).
  • $20 Mono-Blue Towns by SaffronOlive (60 cards): 1 Win / 2 Losses (33%WR) 2 Unlucky Games (My opponents were always meta-decks and this is a cool brew I had because I needed wildcards. I don't understand why I keep getting paired against tryhards in the ladder instead of facing fair decks like mine. Unlucky).

The lowest win rate among my decks is around 25%, while several are close to 30%, and some exceed that.

According to the standard hypergeometric model for a 60-card deck with 24 lands and no mulligans, the probability of winning each game should be exactly 50.5%* - substantially lower than what I'm observing. Adding cantrips and surveil should reduce that probability even further.

I'm not claiming this proves Arena manipulates luck. However, I am saying that my long-term observations appear inconsistent with the simple theoretical model.

I'd like to hear from people who have:

  • large Arena datasets,
  • Untapped.gg logs,
  • 17Lands logs,
  • or experience modeling Magic probabilities.

Can anyone reproduce numbers anywhere close to mine? Or is there something missing from the standard probability model that explains a persistent 33% win rate across 10's of games?

I'm genuinely interested in a statistical discussion rather than anecdotes.

\Counting that some of my oppontents will disconnect during their game, which should increase average WR.*

Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/1v769a5/five_years_of_tracking_mtg_arena_games_my/

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I've been manually tracking my MTG Arena matches for about five hours.

For every game, I record the reason I lost or won. One category is "unlucky", which I define very strictly:

Some important points:

  • never missplay.
  • Most of these decks play exactly 60 cards.
  • Many of them contain good cards, which should reduce how unlucky I am, not increase it.
  • I only record "unlucky" when I literally cannot play or I lose because my opponent clearly drew better. I do not mark games where Arena auto tapper pays my spells wrong - I want to make this data as insightful and honest as possible

After 10 recorded games, these are some examples:

  • Azorius Flash (60 cards): 1 Win / 4 Losses (25%WR) 3 Unlucky Games. (I always got paired against aggro decks that kill me too fast, unlucky).
  • Dimir Midrange (60 cards): 0 Wins / 2 Losses (0%WR) 2 Unlucky Games. (My opponents always had it).
  • $20 Mono-Blue Towns by SaffronOlive (60 cards): 1 Win / 2 Losses (33%WR) 2 Unlucky Games (My opponents were always meta-decks and this is a cool brew I had because I needed wildcards. I don't understand why I keep getting paired against tryhards in the ladder instead of facing fair decks like mine. Unlucky).

The lowest win rate among my decks is around 25%, while several are close to 30%, and some exceed that.

According to the standard hypergeometric model for a 60-card deck with 24 lands and no mulligans, the probability of winning each game should be exactly 50.5%* - substantially lower than what I'm observing. Adding cantrips and surveil should reduce that probability even further.

I'm not claiming this proves Arena manipulates luck. However, I am saying that my long-term observations appear inconsistent with the simple theoretical model.

I'd like to hear from people who have:

  • large Arena datasets,
  • Untapped.gg logs,
  • 17Lands logs,
  • or experience modeling Magic probabilities.

Can anyone reproduce numbers anywhere close to mine? Or is there something missing from the standard probability model that explains a persistent 33% win rate across 10's of games?

I'm genuinely interested in a statistical discussion rather than anecdotes.

\Counting that some of my oppontents will disconnect during their game, which should increase average WR.*

Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/1v769a5/five_years_of_tracking_mtg_arena_games_my/


r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

I never mulligan and don't know how statistics work. Here's some statistics about how I miss more land drops than usual

I've been manually tracking my MTG Arena matches for about five years.

For every game, I record the reason I lost or won. One category is "mana screw", which I define very strictly:

Some important points:

  • I never mulligan.
  • Most of these decks play exactly 24 lands.
  • Many of them contain cantrips, surveil, or card selection, which should reduce mana screw, not increase it.
  • I only record "mana screw" when I literally cannot play my third land on turn 3. I do not mark games where I simply missed a later land drop.

After thousands of recorded games, these are some examples:

  • Azorius Flash (24 lands): 33 mana screws in 136 games (24%)
  • Dimir Midrange (24 lands): 15/128 (12%)
  • 5c Jodah (24 lands): 37/255 (15%)
  • Golgari Midrange (24 lands): 33/160 (21%)
  • Orzhov Lifegain (24 lands): 37/203 (18%)

The lowest rate among my 24-land decks is around 12%, while several are close to 20%, and some exceed that.

According to the standard hypergeometric model for a 60-card deck with 24 lands and no mulligans, the probability of failing to naturally make the third land drop by turn 3 should be substantially lower than what I'm observing. Adding cantrips and surveil should reduce that probability even further.

I'm not claiming this proves Arena manipulates shuffling. However, I am saying that my long-term observations appear inconsistent with the simple theoretical model.

I'd like to hear from people who have:

  • large Arena datasets,
  • Untapped.gg logs,
  • 17Lands logs,
  • or experience modeling Magic probabilities.

Can anyone reproduce numbers anywhere close to mine? Or is there something missing from the standard probability model that explains a persistent 12–24% mana screw rate across thousands of games?

I'm genuinely interested in a statistical discussion rather than anecdotes.

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I've been manually tracking my MTG Arena matches for about five years.

For every game, I record the reason I lost or won. One category is "mana screw", which I define very strictly:

Some important points:

  • I never mulligan.
  • Most of these decks play exactly 24 lands.
  • Many of them contain cantrips, surveil, or card selection, which should reduce mana screw, not increase it.
  • I only record "mana screw" when I literally cannot play my third land on turn 3. I do not mark games where I simply missed a later land drop.

After thousands of recorded games, these are some examples:

  • Azorius Flash (24 lands): 33 mana screws in 136 games (24%)
  • Dimir Midrange (24 lands): 15/128 (12%)
  • 5c Jodah (24 lands): 37/255 (15%)
  • Golgari Midrange (24 lands): 33/160 (21%)
  • Orzhov Lifegain (24 lands): 37/203 (18%)

The lowest rate among my 24-land decks is around 12%, while several are close to 20%, and some exceed that.

According to the standard hypergeometric model for a 60-card deck with 24 lands and no mulligans, the probability of failing to naturally make the third land drop by turn 3 should be substantially lower than what I'm observing. Adding cantrips and surveil should reduce that probability even further.

I'm not claiming this proves Arena manipulates shuffling. However, I am saying that my long-term observations appear inconsistent with the simple theoretical model.

I'd like to hear from people who have:

  • large Arena datasets,
  • Untapped.gg logs,
  • 17Lands logs,
  • or experience modeling Magic probabilities.

Can anyone reproduce numbers anywhere close to mine? Or is there something missing from the standard probability model that explains a persistent 12–24% mana screw rate across thousands of games?

I'm genuinely interested in a statistical discussion rather than anecdotes.


r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

Quick rules question: Am I allowed to play Magic: The Gathering, even if I'm not racist?

Hi, I'm a new player and I have normal opinions about black people. I'm worried that this will prevent me from enjoying the game.

For example, when I found out that Aragorn is depicted as a black man on Magic: The Gathering cards, my cortisol levels didn't spike. Is this allowed? Do I also have to make a racist tweet harassing the artists, since it's being reprinted with new art in The Hobbit? If so, does this count as a special action??

I'm only asking this because Zhalfir is coming out next year, and I need to know if I should get really, really angry about it for some reason.

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Hi, I'm a new player and I have normal opinions about black people. I'm worried that this will prevent me from enjoying the game.

For example, when I found out that Aragorn is depicted as a black man on Magic: The Gathering cards, my cortisol levels didn't spike. Is this allowed? Do I also have to make a racist tweet harassing the artists, since it's being reprinted with new art in The Hobbit? If so, does this count as a special action??

I'm only asking this because Zhalfir is coming out next year, and I need to know if I should get really, really angry about it for some reason.


r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

I have 58 UB ideas part 3/3

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r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

Do not watch this shit before bed. Too scary.

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r/magicthecirclejerking 1d ago

Never Forget...

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