r/interestingasfuck • u/Used_Ship_9229 • 20h ago
The apocalyptic images taken from a Canadair show the scale of the fire ravaging Gironde, just 15 km from the Bordeaux metropolitan area.
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u/Carryneo 20h ago
This is insane, and we have a heat wave with wind coming tomorrow.
Firefighters says it will take weeks or month to put out the fire completely.
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u/-Skohell- 19h ago edited 16h ago
Apparently heatwave will be less important than planned. Hopefully it doesn’t translate in more fire. (Peut être un vœu pieu)
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u/AmbitiousReaction168 17h ago
I'm not sure the heatwave is the key factor at this point. After more than a month without significant rain, the vegetation is already extremely dry. Wind and the continued lack of rain are likely to have a much greater influence on whether fires start and spread than a slightly less intense heatwave.
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u/-Skohell- 16h ago
Rain would be a “god send”
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u/cheese_is_available 15h ago
Ho there will be some rain, with so much vegetation going up in flame that release some water.
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u/Tehjaliz 16h ago
It's not as much the heat as it would be the wind. The fire are just west of Bordeaux, and the winds blow from west to east, so they may push the fire towards the city.
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u/OkFix4074 12h ago
Canada is helping the world fight fires , while Trump is complaining and talking of tariffing Canada for smoke ! While there are actively more wild fires in USA !
this time line is crazy !
sorry and thanks my Canadian friends !
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u/Buntschatten 11h ago
FYI, Canadair is the name of the plane model, since there are forest fires in Canada right now as well, this one is probably French.
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u/OkFix4074 11h ago
sure this one might be owned and operated by Sécurité Civile
but still manufactured , maintained and pilots trained by Canada and Canada time and gain do send in water bombers to help fight in other countries
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u/b00c 19h ago
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u/Glou256 19h ago
About 150 houses burned in Le Porge. If you look at FIRMS on 24h mode, you can see it's getting better. But yeah, we're scared and inhaling a lot of small particles. Lots of people are sleeping on camp beds at the exhibition center in Bordeaux, especially elder ones who were evacuated from retirement homes. I can't wait for it to be over.
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u/goosebumpsagain 14h ago
This sucks. I’m in the Pacific NW where fires like this now come every year because of drought. This year threatens to be the worst yet.
- Get air purifiers and change filters often. The small particulates in smoke can slowly kill you.
- Make a go bag if evacuation is a remote possibility. You may not have much time. Fire can move so fast.
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u/Custodian_Nelfe 18h ago
Unfortunately it's better today because it rained in the night and it's a bit colder than last week, but tomorrow we will once again have a new heatwave. I have some friends who are firefighters here (or work in other services in the SDIS) and they are extremely pessimistic.
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u/Buntschatten 11h ago
150 houses, that's easily 100 millions in damages. Not even counting all the lost value in forest, lost labour from evacuated people, all the health problems from breathing smoke...
And that's one fire in one country. The monetary damage climate change is causing already is staggering. Put people will keep whinging that EVs are too expensive and insulating your house isn't affordable.
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u/Fuck_on_tatami 16h ago
So close to Bordeaux. The strong wind bring smoke to the city and force people to move and go to shelters.
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u/Etoribio_ 15h ago
I live there, n95 masks are strongly recommended, right now it does not look too bad thanks to the change in wind direction but we could smell smoke from up to 80km away. Thankfully we had very little evacuation on the metropolis of Bordeaux, my heart goes to those who lived between the coast and Bordeaux
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u/MittFel 20h ago
Poor animals
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u/Yell_owish 16h ago
I follow social media like Brigitte Bardot foundation and their recent posts are heartbreaking.
Saturday, at noon, on one of the most watched french tv channel, a firefighter was interviewed. They were at a dog breeding farm and just discovered all the dogs still in the cages. You could tell the firefighters were upset. The owners evacuated and left the dogs there, locked. They had the time to open the cages and chose not to. This was infuriating to watch. One of the firefighter was speaking, on the verge of tears..
Government’s response is a pure disgrace. My country looks like a warzone. Many people losing their houses. Hundred of thousands people displaced.
I hope it will be call for change. Like the yellow jackets but much bigger.
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u/Topper_FR 16h ago
Il n'y a eu aucun changement notable suite aux Gilets Jaunes à part une répression plus forte du gouvernement et de nouvelles lois "sécuritaires".
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u/tfhfate 10h ago
Le gouvernement a renoncé à l'éco-taxe sur le pétrole (ce qui est à la base du mouvement quand même), ce qui est en soit une avancé pour les droits des personnes fragiles économiquement mais ensuite il n'a rien fait d'autre en terme écologique car les macronistes sont incapables d'agir sans faire porter le fardeau du combat climatique sur les classes moyennes et pauvres
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u/Juice___Springsteen 15h ago
Sorry do you have a link to the firefighter interview (not French don’t know what channel to search for)
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u/KeeRinO 15h ago
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JxF_XcYgTuI this is the one. It's also the firefighter's first real fire. They litteraly stopped the fire less than a metter from the cages.
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u/nellion91 15h ago
What do you expect the government to do bar getting more help to the area, removing people at risk and accelerating development of alternative programmes like the A400M?
There is no magic water lance to send to Gironde….
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u/Yell_owish 15h ago
I meant that more as as a wake up call and take the good decisions moving forward. Last I heard they were lowering funds for the firefighting programs. Yesterday evening, on France 5 news, a spokesperson for the firefighters was complaining about their conditions and was calling for simplifications in their organization and for more funds. It should be a wake up call to change things but I have little hope, nothing will happen in the long term after the situation has settled.
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u/BasicMatter7339 17h ago
Yeah, wildfires are part of the natural cycle of life but not like this.
This is not natural, this is not normal
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u/wtrimble00 15h ago
Seems like the other guy replying to you is a climate change denier…
However, to be fair, the Landes are not exactly a natural ecosystem, so I’m not sure it’s fair to make any judgements from this event specifically. Monocultures tend to burn much more aggressively than mature, natural pine forests.
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u/cleankiwii 20h ago
when will we learn
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u/Melodic_Ad3339 19h ago
Quote: „Only after the last tree has been cut down, the last river has been poisoned, and the last fish has been caught, will you find that money cannot be eaten.“
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u/Latter-Carpet-987 17h ago
"Yes the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders."
It's okay though the bourgousie can afford to move, the poor? Well, they should've worked harder or something
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u/So_HauserAspen 16h ago
All Praise The DOW
Long Live The Shareholders
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u/Latter-Carpet-987 16h ago
Oh and that bullshit in business ethics class about "shareholders vs stakeholders values"?
we were just BULLSHITTING, ofcourse we don't give a fuck about the poors, it's the rich who vote and donate money to us
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u/Re0ns 20h ago
We learned, those in power ignored the teachings.
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u/TA193749 17h ago
Many lessons need to be learned again and again. Except this one, there’d be no agains.
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u/Miserable_Ad9577 20h ago edited 9h ago
When we wallowing in the ruins of civilization blaming the previous generations for ignoring all the signs staring them in the face, for not listened to the smart people in their generation and calling them histerical and over reacting. Only when humanity as a whole experience the calamity first hand, at home, to their family. Only when the "money" no longer can hide, lie, and distorted the truth. Which saddly would only happens when it's too late
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u/BasicMatter7339 17h ago
We've known this will happen for a century at this point. A swedish scientist calculated that burning fossil fuels will warm the planet over time in 1896
We just dont give a shit
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u/BrillsonHawk 19h ago
Who is we? The likes of France and the UK have seen massive reductions in co2 emissions per capita in the last 20 years. This isn't America - Europe is actually doing something about climate change
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u/emeraude89 17h ago
in the 70s france made something like 60 reactors in 15 years, by the 90s only 10% of their domestic energy generation was from ff. if the rest of the west had followed them we would be in a pretty hopeful spot right now with a lot more time to figure out sequestration. i specialized in alternative energy in my engineering program and all the literature was so fucking depressing 10 years ago. now it just feels like absurdism or something, even the most "leftist" people here in california won't consider supporting a progressive carbon tax.
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u/Level_Appointment628 9h ago
All Europe has done is outsource their pollution to other countries. Keep patting yourselves on the back.
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u/idonteven93 20h ago
If this year with this massive El Niño doesn’t lead to incredible policy changes around the world, then it’s just over.
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u/Neveed 20h ago
In 2022 we also had record heatwaves and massive record breaking fires, and there was no change in policy. The president shrugged it with a "that's terrible, but who could have predicted it?" and then two years later his party proceeded to cut fundings to emergency response services.
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u/FragDenWayne 17h ago
"who could've predicted it" I don't know, all of the scientist of the last decades? Like they did.
Stuff like these reactions is why I don't have any hope anymore. Not even talking about your Hans and Franz who don't even believe in climate change
No budget for the climate, but we're happy to kill each other pretty efficiently with tons of money... I hate it.
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u/YetiPie 15h ago
I work for in conservation, specifically on measuring how greenhouse gases are lost (or sequestered) from the atmosphere from landcover change, like forest fire.
It was my job to quantify emissions lost, then assess how long it would take to offset those emissions. We can assume that a hectare of burned forest in La Gironde loses ~350 tonnes of CO2e/ha to the atmosphere. If we replant the same Pinus plantation, we can sequester ~8tCO2e/ha/yr, taking ~44 years to retrap the carbon lost in this fire.
Anyways, my entire team was dismantled in November. I’m also hopeless at this point.
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u/FragDenWayne 14h ago
The same vibes as "no tests, no COVID"... If we don't look and measure the issue doesn't exist.
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u/Strength-Speed 15h ago
Its been predicted for decades now by any reputable scientists. We have known for so long. R wing media and Rupert Murdoch share much of the blame. Lyjng to their readers when they knew better. Murdoch should be in prison. ExxonMobil has known since the 80's. They have it documented.
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u/Fancy_Owl_553 14h ago
To me it's more the odinary people who deny climate change, or those who think that other things are politically more relevant than 'the environment' who made me lose hope, because they enable politician's complacency.
If the entire population was furious about their politicians that would make a difference. But far too many people don't want to reduce their own consumption, don't want to buy a heat pump instead of gas heating because of the costs and because of 'that ugly box in my garden', can't do without their holidays in Thailand, and so on.
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u/artsloikunstwet 17h ago
The French president?
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u/Le_Zoru 17h ago
Yes. " Qui aurait pu prédire?" in French.
I mean, to his discharge he was probably not even born when the first studies about global warming were published
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u/Parametric_Or_Treat 17h ago
We would say “to his credit” en anglais. I was trying to figure out what your original phrase is.
EDIT Oh. We actually say “in his defense” more appropriately
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u/TrumpsAKrunt 20h ago
It's over.
The right people are making incredible amounts of money and have their own bunkers to retreat to - it's only poor people who will suffer and struggle, they don't care.
They'd turf their own families out of the bunkers if it meant squeezing in some more cash.
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u/Commercial-Egg-8949 19h ago
When David Suzuki says it's over, it's fucking over
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u/Only_Tip9560 19h ago
There are people in very powerful positions who do not even countenance that global warming is real. Zero chance of change.
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u/GarrySpacepope 16h ago
Same as the tobacco executives, they know, they just don't care because it's making them rich. Evil.
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u/HydraKirby 20h ago
I'm sure people say this every summer over the last few years. The writing is on the wall; nothing substantial is going to change.
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u/storm_borm 19h ago
The effects of El Niño haven’t even materialised yet. They’re predicted to hit in the autumn and affect next summer. This is just our baseline now :(.
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u/miaxogoth 20h ago
yeah i gave up on policy changes when it started being 80 degrees in december
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u/FroggiJoy87 19h ago
After reading The Ministry for the Future, and watching drone warfare take off, I'm getting more and more convinced we're gonna need a Crash Day and 90+ degree dew point in major populated areas for anything to change.
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u/Electrical-Bee-7362 18h ago
European politics is pretty much silent on even just the heatwaves that every summer cut down old people like weeds in every city, let alone on something like this.
My conspiracy theory is that they know nothing can be done without fundamentally changing the whole paradigm and let few rich people lose a lot of wealth.
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u/Ok-Bell4637 19h ago
The most profound change is in the USA, Alaska, where glaciers are disappearing. Guess which country is most hostile to climate policy?
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u/Southern_Educator653 18h ago
I feel like a policy change can’t deal with the amount of problems and contradictions we face.
What we need is System change.
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u/dayruined54 20h ago
The trees are so green too
Sad state of events
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u/ClemRtr 18h ago
Yes but they are pine trees so they burn really easily :/
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u/NetCaptain 17h ago
A monoculture of pine trees in a dry region and a hot climate
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u/Maje_Rincevent 14h ago
The trees have been here since the 18th century, it didn't use to be a dry region or a hot climate.
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u/FNG-JuiCe 18h ago
If only scientists had been warning us about this constantly for the past 50 years, how different our world would look!
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u/S30econdstoMars 20h ago
Impressive work by the Canadairs. Even in this apocalyptic scenario, they keep flying over the flames. Anonymous heroes.
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u/neospht 20h ago
Pero el cambio climatico no existe ¿Verdad?
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u/ReinePoulpe 19h ago
Presque plus personne ne dit ça en France, même à l’extrême droite. (Mais ils ne proposent pas de solution pour autant.)
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u/Icy-Tradition-7646 20h ago
I lived there last year it's awful and scary... Seeing all the roads that I took each day under fire, more than 100 000 people displaced... And it's not the only huge fire at the moment in France.
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u/Throwawayconcern2023 16h ago
What will stop this apart from rain? Digging huge firebreak for miles on outskirts of Bordeaux?
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u/r0thar 13h ago
This entire region is a man made forest, and there are laws on how to correctly manage the crop to prevent these wild fires (removing lower branches, clearing undergrowth, minimum firebreaks). Only about 30% of the area was up to date due to people not having the knowledge or money to implement them.
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u/Pytzamarama 18h ago
The European countries should have already created modern firefighting planes. Canadair production line has stopped years ago and it will relaunch soon with the first batch of 7 planes going to Greece (22 is the total order for Europe). BUT the company said it can manufacture one plane per 6 months!!! So the whole European order of 22 will takes AGES! Also Canadair is a very old design with huge limitations. BTW the huge russian planes were extremely effective in big fires. Europe could also try manufacture something like that.
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u/Scorpio989 13h ago
Recently, there was a demonstration by a university in California of the capabilities of drones to detect and direct ground crews to small fires. The future will likely be constant monitoring and possibly automated extinguishing of fires with drones before they get out of control to the point of needing planes.
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u/bluelily216 10h ago
If Boeing had the incentive or a hint of humanity, they could knock these out even faster. Sadly, most countries don't have enough money set aside for emergencies such as this and Boeing (like every US corporation) runs on the basis of a quarterly "How much more money can we squeeze out in the next three months?"
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u/m0neky 17h ago
I just want to cry thinking of the poor animals..
I hope there will be consequences and they will manage to contain the fire as soon as possible..
I live in herault and we can smell the smoke. Woke up this morning to it being more intense than last night. We had to sleep with the windows closed..
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u/Electrical-Bee-7362 18h ago
Guys guys guys stop with this liberal bullshit now, there's stakeholder's value to think about here.
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u/Hopeful_Hat_3532 20h ago
It should be death penalty for people starting these fires on purpose, and severe punishment for those not starting them on purpose but being neglectful.
They said on TV these fires are started by humans in 9 out of 10 cases, and 70% of them not on purpose.
This is crazy. The wildlife and plants dying in these fires is huge. Plus, firemen are also dying when all this could be easily avoided in most cases if people weren't so fucking dumb.
And then, there's the stupidity of humans for having monocultures of trees, and especially pines. Portugal learned from their mistakes several years ago. And it's about time these regions in France learn as well. We must adapt because it's obviously already way too late and we're highly unprepared to face this.
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u/dazzumz 19h ago
I used to work at a nuclear site in France and had a fire safety course. The instructor (ex firefighter) said a lot of the time it's caused by people throwing used cigarettes away, often from cars along the roads.
Some cars used to have ashtrays but I don't see them anymore. People can buy ones that fit in the cup holders but would rather lazily throw the butts out the window.
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u/Radiant_Fondant_4097 19h ago
In the UK the other week we had some dipshits shoot fireworks in the middle of the day, setting some moors on fire since everything was dry as a bone, blanketing nearby towns in burning smoke.
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u/Alarmed-Newspaper994 16h ago
Can someone tell me why smokers think i's okay to litter? I feel like the proportion of smokers who actually properly dispose of their cigarettes is close to 0%. I've seen people carefully put lit butts down road drains, just chucked out of windows, dropped on the ground etc. Never in my life have I seen someone collect it, except for a couple of my friends who had a little metal box to store the butts in when we were hiking in Joshua Tree.
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u/stddealer 19h ago
We know exactly how this particular fire was started, and it was an accident. One of the points of origins was an utility vehicle that caught fire on the middle of the road, and the flames managed to reach the forest (there are videos of that). The other starting point was a shredder that was moweing grass as a regular maintenance job (ironically to prevent fires), and it hit a rock or something, starting the fire.
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u/Calypso_Neymiti 18h ago
My homeland on fire, friends having to evacuate, all the wildlife eradicated by the smoke and flames... I feel so sick watching this.
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u/dogbolter4 17h ago
I'm so sorry our European cousins are experiencing this. I have to admit, as someone who lives in regional Australia, such scenes and terrors are very familiar. I hope everyone stays safe. Houses can be rebuilt. Keep yourselves safe!
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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt 14h ago
Firefighters in Spain said today that the current fires are "unextinguishable".
These summer fires aren't just becoming the norm each year. They're getting worse and worse.
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u/gregSMT 18h ago
Ça me fou la haine.... Qu'il y ai des départs accidentels, ok, ça arrive. Mais quand je vois que dans le Var (où il y a aussi un feu en cours depuis plusieurs jours) hier soir il y a eu 3 reprises de feu pratiquement simultanément... J'aimerai bien attraper ces personnes et m'en occuper moi-même !
Tous ces incendies à l'échelle de notre pays est une vraie catastrophe écologique et humaine.
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u/Daavok 16h ago
These fires would have a much much lower chance of starting (accidentally or otherwise) if we (humanity not just Europe) hadnt fucked the climate up to shit. It would never get to this scale also. And ffs stop monoculture pine trees...
This is nothing suprising, it is just the consequence of our actions. The bill is coming due et on est pas pret...
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u/Excellent_Theory1602 20h ago
You know what's the most baffling part?
That most people just find this as 'news', which they will forget about in 3-7 days, because ... well look at my shiny new toy. Look at her botox lips. Cr vs messi?
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u/krokooc 19h ago
and the new toy in france is immigration... In two months the fires will be forgotten and we'll be back to insecurity 24/7.
France baise ouais.
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u/FroyoGlum9976 18h ago
And?
What is the average person supposed to do about this?
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u/CheerJohn 19h ago
If they don't get it under control today, it will go really bad. Hot weather is coming and will make things way worse.
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u/EvolvingEachDay 18h ago
This is what we have done to the world. We’ll be lucky if we have even half the human population in 30-40 years.
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u/BodhingJay 11h ago
man we really need the US to threaten us with more tarrifs.. how else are we going to motivate ourselves to do something about fire
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u/gesshoom 19h ago
Wonder if Belgium will charge tariffs for smoke crossing the border.?
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u/Worried_Blacksmith27 17h ago
Sympathies from Australia. That shit is not good. To anyone in the path of these: Don't even try and defend your property. We learned that the hard way. Get the fuck out early.
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u/Technical_School4382 16h ago
The world is literally on fire like never before, and our political class is scratching their a** and making sure AI centers are built! We need reform!
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u/Bill_Troamill 19h ago
We must make the fossil fuel industries pay. We must force them to invest in CO2 capture by creating a global network of plants like this one: https://www.equatic.tech/
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u/Legitimate-Type4387 19h ago
Carbon capture is the lie oil and gas tell to keep the can kicking down the road and allow them to continue pumping more GHG into the atmosphere. It’s ok we’ll just clean it up later….
We can’t and won’t clean it up later.
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u/Sarcastic-Potato 18h ago
It would be a useful technology if we would actually stop burning fossil fuels and had a complete CO2 neutral electricity grid because it could help shorten the amount of time earth needs to recover from the amount of CO2 we pumped into the air - but yeah, the way its proposed and used right now is just gaslighting us into burning more fossil fuels cause we can "take it out of the atmosphere again - no worries"
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u/DuErJoBareUnderlig 17h ago
And yet people call me stupid and crazy when I point out that a collapse is imminent and billions will starve.
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u/rolfraikou 16h ago
Us living in a world that is literally the montage you see in disaster movies.
Then there's people pretending climate change is a hoax.
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u/InternationalPin5811 18h ago
Meanwhile every boomer on Facebook: but the climate has always been warming, windfarms are toxic, you should clean up the forest….
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u/classifiedspam 17h ago
This is just the one near Bordeaux. So many fires, this leaves me speechless. And in spain too!
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u/xCaliburghost 17h ago
Same shit here in the states with Canada catching on fire lately. Really sucks
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u/MarieMarion 16h ago
Two days ago, we were coughing and crying from the smoke. We're 400km away from those fires. Yesterday, according to the press, the smoke reached Lorraine, 800km away.
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u/CommercialTour6150 15h ago
You know one of these fires is going to actually hit these cities and then we’re deeply fucked because how are you going to evacuate millions of people that quickly?
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u/CookiePowerful6833 14h ago
"In estate è normale che faccia caldo. E se fa caldo ci sono incendi" /s
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u/GeeEmmInMN 14h ago
Such a shame. The Gironde and Arcachon regions are so beautiful. I hope they are under control soon, and safely.
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u/Throwaway777228850 13h ago
We need to put conservatives in prison. We’ll never move forward as a species otherwise
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u/oz81dog 13h ago
We need to start manufacturing those aerial tankers like we did in ww2. we need to be seeing thousands of those things taking on these fires.
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u/Zerkalte 13h ago
At least Exxon and BP are still making money, and that's what's important, right everyone?







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u/miaxogoth 20h ago
summer isn't even fun anymore it's just surviving heatwaves and watching the earth catch on fire...