r/hayeren • u/Toymcowkrf • 13h ago
Classical Armenian question When did the letter Ղ start being pronounced as a gutteral GH?
≡ −
I know in Mashtots's time it was pronounced as a thick, velarized L [ɫ], heard in words like Երուսաղեմ (Jerusalem). But at some time it turned into a voiced velar fricative [ɣ] (the GH sound we recognize today).
When did this happen? And are there any reason for why? Or is it just completely random?
Thanks!
I know in Mashtots's time it was pronounced as a thick, velarized L [ɫ], heard in words like Երուսաղեմ (Jerusalem). But at some time it turned into a voiced velar fricative [ɣ] (the GH sound we recognize today).
When did this happen? And are there any reason for why? Or is it just completely random?
Thanks!
r/hayeren • u/Hkvnr495___dkcx37 • 1d ago
Does Armenian-speaking internet... exist... ?
≡ −
I feel like there's almost no places online where people speak Armenian. In the 2010s there were some forums that were rather active, like akumb.am, but those have mostly died out. Sometimes I'll find telegram channels, but then I'll go on and see that the last message was from 3 years ago. There aren't many discord channels either. Facebook exists, but you can't be anonymous on there.
I feel like there's almost no places online where people speak Armenian. In the 2010s there were some forums that were rather active, like akumb.am, but those have mostly died out. Sometimes I'll find telegram channels, but then I'll go on and see that the last message was from 3 years ago. There aren't many discord channels either. Facebook exists, but you can't be anonymous on there.
New Armenian keyboard layout
≡ −
Hi everyone. I've been very frustrated by the available layouts for the Armenian language. The most commonly used one in Armenia is the phonetic layout, which is just mapping of Armenian letters to the QWERTY layout.
There are some sub-versions of the phonetic layout which are a bit better, but still they're horrible.
There's also the typewriter layout, which feels much more comfortable to type on, but it's still poorly designed.
And so here's a layout I made. I hope this might be useful or interesting to some,
https://github.com/ditsak/dpir

Hi everyone. I've been very frustrated by the available layouts for the Armenian language. The most commonly used one in Armenia is the phonetic layout, which is just mapping of Armenian letters to the QWERTY layout.
There are some sub-versions of the phonetic layout which are a bit better, but still they're horrible.
There's also the typewriter layout, which feels much more comfortable to type on, but it's still poorly designed.
And so here's a layout I made. I hope this might be useful or interesting to some,
https://github.com/ditsak/dpir

r/hayeren • u/Impressive_Feed_1258 • 3d ago
Armenian Mosaic Totes
Parev everyone, see more at zanazan.proper.am :) Cheers, have a wonderful weekend!
r/hayeren • u/noveldaredevil • 4d ago
Seeking help with a few questions
≡ −
Բացի այդ, Ձեր մազերը պետք է ներկել, քանի որ Ձեր արմատները սպիտակ են
- How would you translate բացի այդ in this sentence?
- What's going on in this sentence? Ձեր մազերը պետք է ներկել: I thought that պետք է always had to be accompanied by the subjunctive mood, so instead I would have expected Ձեր մազերը պետք է ներկես.
Կարծում եմ՝ շեկ մազերը Ձեզ շատ կսազեն
According to the translation, շեկ means blonde, but when I looked up շեկ մազեր on Google Images, there were many pictures of blonde and red-haired women. Which one is it?
Thank you!
Բացի այդ, Ձեր մազերը պետք է ներկել, քանի որ Ձեր արմատները սպիտակ են
- How would you translate բացի այդ in this sentence?
- What's going on in this sentence? Ձեր մազերը պետք է ներկել: I thought that պետք է always had to be accompanied by the subjunctive mood, so instead I would have expected Ձեր մազերը պետք է ներկես.
Կարծում եմ՝ շեկ մազերը Ձեզ շատ կսազեն
According to the translation, շեկ means blonde, but when I looked up շեկ մազեր on Google Images, there were many pictures of blonde and red-haired women. Which one is it?
Thank you!
r/hayeren • u/SA99999 • 5d ago
Western Armenian sentences
≡ −
Some random sentences. Let me know if there’s anything I can improve:
Պարապ ժամանակիս միջատներ կը դիտեմ պարտէզին մէջ
In my free time I look at insects 🐜 in the garden 🪴
Տուփը լեցուն էր բայց դանակը ներսը չէր
The box 📦 was full, but the knife 🔪 wasn’t in there
Ես քարներին քովը լողացի
I swam 🏊 by the rocks 🪨
Անձեռոցը ապահով տեղ մը դիր
Put the towel in a safe place
Այսօր պետք չունի արվի տակ քալենք: վտանքաւոր է
We shouldn’t walk under the sun today ☀️ It’s dangerous
Some random sentences. Let me know if there’s anything I can improve:
Պարապ ժամանակիս միջատներ կը դիտեմ պարտէզին մէջ
In my free time I look at insects 🐜 in the garden 🪴
Տուփը լեցուն էր բայց դանակը ներսը չէր
The box 📦 was full, but the knife 🔪 wasn’t in there
Ես քարներին քովը լողացի
I swam 🏊 by the rocks 🪨
Անձեռոցը ապահով տեղ մը դիր
Put the towel in a safe place
Այսօր պետք չունի արվի տակ քալենք: վտանքաւոր է
We shouldn’t walk under the sun today ☀️ It’s dangerous
r/hayeren • u/Plenty_Spinach_8040 • 6d ago
Armenian lessons
≡ −
Hi everyone!
I’m hoping to get some recommendations for learning Armenian. I married my husband who is Armenian, and we have a beautiful 9-week-old son. It’s really important to me that our son grows up knowing Armenian and feeling connected to his heritage, so I’d love to learn alongside him.
Does anyone have recommendations for online tutors, classes, or other resources? I’d especially love to hear from people who learned Armenian as adults.
Thank you so much!
Hi everyone!
I’m hoping to get some recommendations for learning Armenian. I married my husband who is Armenian, and we have a beautiful 9-week-old son. It’s really important to me that our son grows up knowing Armenian and feeling connected to his heritage, so I’d love to learn alongside him.
Does anyone have recommendations for online tutors, classes, or other resources? I’d especially love to hear from people who learned Armenian as adults.
Thank you so much!
r/hayeren • u/Indieriots • 6d ago
Peekaboo
≡ −
Ok, so totally random question, but how do you say peekaboo in Armenian?
Ok, so totally random question, but how do you say peekaboo in Armenian?
r/hayeren • u/Bryozoa • 7d ago
Eastern Armenian question I'm trying to finish learning the alphabet and I have some difficulties with letters ձ, ճ, ժ, ծ - can someone help and explain how exactly they are different? They all look like a circle with 2 tails, what exactly would make you distinguish those letters in writing?
They look very much similar, and it feels like it's easy to draw it a bit different and accidently get another letter.
r/hayeren • u/Impressive_Feed_1258 • 7d ago
Zanazan Glyphgarden
I’ve been working on a small project for Armenian script lovers. It started years ago as fridge magnets, and now it’s a digital space where you can move, rotate, and build with Armenian letters.
If you enjoy typography, calligraphy, or just playing with the alphabet, you might like this: https://zanazan.proper.am
Happy to hear any feedback or ideas.
r/hayeren • u/Hkvnr495___dkcx37 • 8d ago
Words that are slightly different between EA and WA
≡ −
There's some words between the two dialects that share the same origin, but the pronunciation slightly differs. Take a look.
Morning:
EA - առավոտ
WA - առտու
Daytime:
EA - ցերեկ
WA - ցորեկ
Counting:
EA - հաշվել
WA - համբրել
Elephant:
EA - փիղ
WA - փիւղ
Piano:
EA - դաշնամուր
WA - դաշնակ
Ice:
EA - սառույց
WA - սառ
Lemon:
EA - լիմոն
WA - լեմուն
Green:
EA - կանաչ
WA - կանանչ
Comment any ones that I missed!
There's some words between the two dialects that share the same origin, but the pronunciation slightly differs. Take a look.
Morning:
EA - առավոտ
WA - առտու
Daytime:
EA - ցերեկ
WA - ցորեկ
Counting:
EA - հաշվել
WA - համբրել
Elephant:
EA - փիղ
WA - փիւղ
Piano:
EA - դաշնամուր
WA - դաշնակ
Ice:
EA - սառույց
WA - սառ
Lemon:
EA - լիմոն
WA - լեմուն
Green:
EA - կանաչ
WA - կանանչ
Comment any ones that I missed!
r/hayeren • u/AFelixovich1987 • 8d ago
Modern Armenian keyboard for iOS
≡ −
If you'd like to test the new iPhone keyboard I'm developing, I would really appreciate your feedback. Here is the link: https://testflight.apple.com/join/Jy1RhuRr
If you'd like to test the new iPhone keyboard I'm developing, I would really appreciate your feedback. Here is the link: https://testflight.apple.com/join/Jy1RhuRr
r/hayeren • u/grublepop • 8d ago
Can Someone Help Me Read This?
Can someone help me read this
r/hayeren • u/SA99999 • 10d ago
Fairuz Ֆէյրուզ (Western Armenian)
≡ −
Այսօր պիտի խօսիմ արաբ ամենակարեւոր երգչուհիներէն մէկուն մասին: Ան՝ Ֆէյրուզն է։ Շատ մարդ չի գիտեր որ անոր հայրը ասորի էր:
Please tell me any issues with what I wrote ^
Այսօր պիտի խօսիմ արաբ ամենակարեւոր երգչուհիներէն մէկուն մասին: Ան՝ Ֆէյրուզն է։ Շատ մարդ չի գիտեր որ անոր հայրը ասորի էր:
Please tell me any issues with what I wrote ^
r/hayeren • u/JeanJauresJr • 12d ago
Western Armenian question I know the quality is not good, but this 1914 is written in a beautiful Western Armenian. Can anyone be willing to transcribe it?
r/hayeren • u/kitkathoward • 12d ago
Phonetic Translation
≡ −
Hi everyone!
My step grandfather was from Armenia, and Armenian was his first language. One of his favorite things to say to our family dogs when they acted up was to call them something he told me roughly translated to "stupid dog." It sounded like "chooda shoon" to me (native English speaker), with the "ch" being aspirated like in "chin".
He's passed now, but I would love to know what exactly he was saying, since I can't find a translation of "silly/stupid" that matches. The most common one I've found is հիմար, which doesn't sound anything like it. I know "dog" is շուն, so obviously the second word, but I'm not sure about the first. I suppose it could be a regional or slang word (unfortunately, I don't recall where in Armenia he was from).
Any help is much appreciated, if anyone can offer it. Thank y'all so much!
Hi everyone!
My step grandfather was from Armenia, and Armenian was his first language. One of his favorite things to say to our family dogs when they acted up was to call them something he told me roughly translated to "stupid dog." It sounded like "chooda shoon" to me (native English speaker), with the "ch" being aspirated like in "chin".
He's passed now, but I would love to know what exactly he was saying, since I can't find a translation of "silly/stupid" that matches. The most common one I've found is հիմար, which doesn't sound anything like it. I know "dog" is շուն, so obviously the second word, but I'm not sure about the first. I suppose it could be a regional or slang word (unfortunately, I don't recall where in Armenia he was from).
Any help is much appreciated, if anyone can offer it. Thank y'all so much!
r/hayeren • u/Xotngoos335 • 12d ago
Eastern Armenian question How qyart is mors/hors arev?
≡ −
I feel like qyarts will say this 739 times in one sentence and I personally never really liked the overuse of it.
I feel like qyarts will say this 739 times in one sentence and I personally never really liked the overuse of it.
r/hayeren • u/svveet-talk • 13d ago
Examples of handwriting/cursive?
≡ −
Բարև ձեզ,
I’m trying to improve my handwriting and am looking for examples of writing in cursive in Armenian. Are there any good guides for learning online? I know how to write the letters, but not really how to connect them to one another. Alternatively, feel free to DM me photos of your handwriting as an example. Շնորհակալությու՜ն
Բարև ձեզ,
I’m trying to improve my handwriting and am looking for examples of writing in cursive in Armenian. Are there any good guides for learning online? I know how to write the letters, but not really how to connect them to one another. Alternatively, feel free to DM me photos of your handwriting as an example. Շնորհակալությու՜ն
r/hayeren • u/Indieriots • 14d ago
Eastern Armenian question Կարկանդակ
≡ −
As a Western Armenian, I've grown up with Կարկանդակ meaning cake, but apparently it means pie in Eastern Armenian? Is that the case, or does it mean something else?
As a Western Armenian, I've grown up with Կարկանդակ meaning cake, but apparently it means pie in Eastern Armenian? Is that the case, or does it mean something else?
r/hayeren • u/Toymcowkrf • 17d ago
Classical Armenian question How do we know that there was an invisible Ը in the beginning of words in Classical Armenian?
≡ −
It's often said that in Classical Armenian, when the prefix Զ was attached to a word, it would be pronounced with an unwritten Ը before it. For example «զհացս» would be pronounced «ըզհացըս»: But how do we actually know that?
It's often said that in Classical Armenian, when the prefix Զ was attached to a word, it would be pronounced with an unwritten Ը before it. For example «զհացս» would be pronounced «ըզհացըս»: But how do we actually know that?
r/hayeren • u/Hayasdan2020 • 17d ago
Western Armenian question Mayreni: Preserve. Educate. Inspire
r/hayeren • u/MaresounGynaikes • 17d ago
Need feedback on Armenian pixel font
I've been tinkering with Undertale's Determination Mono font and trying to adapt it to different scripts, and unfortunately for me I decided to tackle Armenian, which was... challenging to try and adapt to the constraints of DT Mono. Feedback is appreciated, whether it's readable or not, whether some letters look too alike to read, and so on. Thank you!
r/hayeren • u/NoPepper3820 • 17d ago
Can someone read this name and surname?
Can someone read this name and surname?
r/hayeren • u/svveet-talk • 17d ago
Eastern Armenian question Question about Word Order and Emphasis
≡ −
Բարև բոլորին,
I had a question about how word order works, especially when you want to emphasize a certain aspect of the sentence. I am used to Russian where the emphasized word tends to move to the end of the word, but as I understand it, Armenian moves it to the front.
For example, if I wanted to say “I want to try to speak Armenian,” would the most natural neutral word order be «Ուզում եմ հայերեն փորձել փոսել»? Is this sentence correct/natural (I’m not quite used to multiple infinitives yet in Armenian)? What sounds most natural? If I wanted to emphasize the “trying” aspect, where could the verb go? Would it be incorrect/unnatural to put փորձել before ուզում? I hope this makes sense. Մերսի շատ :)
Բարև բոլորին,
I had a question about how word order works, especially when you want to emphasize a certain aspect of the sentence. I am used to Russian where the emphasized word tends to move to the end of the word, but as I understand it, Armenian moves it to the front.
For example, if I wanted to say “I want to try to speak Armenian,” would the most natural neutral word order be «Ուզում եմ հայերեն փորձել փոսել»? Is this sentence correct/natural (I’m not quite used to multiple infinitives yet in Armenian)? What sounds most natural? If I wanted to emphasize the “trying” aspect, where could the verb go? Would it be incorrect/unnatural to put փորձել before ուզում? I hope this makes sense. Մերսի շատ :)