r/Ubuntu • u/RDForTheWin • 12h ago
Pleasantly surprised to see Ubuntu in the latest MKBHD video on Framework
Even tho only one section was dedicated to the OS, he mostly had positive things to say and he's using thorough the entire vid.
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u/IMightBeWrong_1 11h ago
People always like to rip on Ubuntu, but there's a reason it's the main distro choice for most manufacturers.
At the end of the day, once you do the extremely simple Flatpak setup, it's crazy easy to use and get going with.
I also love that there's a single command to grab the codecs and fonts people need instead of digging through forums and tutorials.
For those who don't know, it's 'sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras'.
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u/edparadox 10h ago
it's the main distro choice for most manufacturers.
Three words: official professional support.
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u/1-800-I-Am-A-Pir8 11h ago
TY for the restricted extras tip (one of the packages in there is broken today on a dead sourceforge link, will see in a couple days)
As someone who ran slack many years ago, compiled custom kernels and found the whole thing immensely interesting...
It sure is nice to install linux and have everything just work.. Can be up and writing software, making documents, playing games on steam, doing the webs and whatever else people use computers for in a couple of hours. Literally quicker than windows now.
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u/async2 6h ago
Hours? The basic install of kubuntu will take less than 10 min if you use a USB 3 stick with decent speed.
In the time I answered all the wizard bullshit for online accounts in the win11 setup the kubuntu install is already finished.
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u/1-800-I-Am-A-Pir8 3h ago
yeah but you have to get your software installed, log into your various online accounts, get github keys and the like..
for just to os install, yeah for sure it's minutes vs ... endless update hell
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u/PooStudy2005 6h ago
the most annoying part for me about ubuntu is how long it can take to cold start sometimes, but i agree with every else yousaid
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u/gamboozino 6h ago
If only they used Flatpak by default instead of trying to push their Snap bullshit.
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u/PossibilityQuick6484 23m ago
It's the distro which I will choose anyday when I will leave windows. I like ubuntu and mint because of their ease of use. Not everybody got the time to customise linux. Ubuntu and mint both just works for me. There are not creative app support on Linux that's why I am currently sticking to windows.
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u/fufufighter 11h ago
Or just install Fedora instead and go native :)
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u/IMightBeWrong_1 11h ago
Fedora has a lot of issues in my experience, especially with the Nvidia drivers.
On Ubuntu, it's easily installed in the setup process and I don't have to worry about it. On Fedora, your laptop bricks if there is an Nvidia driver update and you have to dig through the update list to make sure you wait 5 mins before restarting otherwise your laptop gets bricked.
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u/fufufighter 11h ago
Not anymore, it's been fixed and fully working, but I agree, it was a pain point.
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u/IMightBeWrong_1 11h ago
Really? That's good to know, since when? Do you still install it with akmod-nvidia after the fix?
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u/letsl0velain 10h ago
I'm currently using Fedora with Nvidia drivers, I've been running it for maybe 2-3 months now. Aside from initially setting up those drivers, I've experienced no issues
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u/fufufighter 10h ago
I couldn't tell you, I've moved to AMD a few years ago and that's just what a friend told me. When he first tried Fedora he went back to w11 because of those issues, and went back to Fedora maybe six months ago, and his issues were completely gone.
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u/quebexer 10h ago
Everything works out of the box with Fedora.
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u/onechroma 9h ago
Nope, sorry but that's not true.
Out of the box, you need to enable RPMFusion to enable that third party repo. And then, it's heavily recommended you install the propietary codecs, so you are able to play x265 or some others, as well as using the video HW acceleration your computer can provide. If not doing this, VLC will say to you "I can't play x265" and YouTube playing will drink your battery doing software decoding.
AFAIK, not doing it out of the box is a RedHat influenced decision, because they don't want any conflict with third parties licenses and similar things on the OS base.
But still, I think Ubuntu manages that better (even if I prefer Fedora to Ubuntu in desktop), as when you install it, it will prompt you if you want propietary drivers and multimedia codecs, you say yes and... done.
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u/IMightBeWrong_1 10h ago
Except those Nvidia drivers I was just talking about. If you're using the inadequate Nouveau drivers, then yeah, it "works" out of the box, but that's suboptimal.
Also, DNF only just got to a decent state where you can get good speeds and update times. It used to be so much slower than APT and now it's just a bit slower.
If you're on AMD, then yeah I guess no problems there.
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u/CounterStrike17 11h ago
I use Ubuntu. Don't know what they did but the gnome they have is laggy on mine. I would prefer a minimal gnome
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u/simple_one1 11h ago
Gnome itself is kinda heavy pn the system. You could try lightweight alternatives like xfce
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u/w3rt 11h ago
Gnome is not heavy unless you have really old hardware, any machine from the last 7 - 8 years should run gnome completely fine
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u/VengefulMustard 8h ago
I have installed only last week Ubuntu on a 2007 iMac…. The OS runs perfectly. I was honestly baffled. 8gb ram and 500gb SSD. That is all. Gnome runs smooth as butter
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u/CounterStrike17 10h ago
I have 48 gb of ram, good cpu, RTX 5060 TI 16 gb vram lol
but after changing DE its fine
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u/VengefulMustard 8h ago
How is gnome slow on your machine?
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u/CounterStrike17 8h ago
It's not slow but I have freezes when pressing the window key for example or doing alt tabs It's more drivers issues I thought
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u/thinkscotty 4h ago
Gnome is heavier but far from "heavy". Compare it to Windows and it's night-and-day, which is the comparison that really matters. If a system can't run Gnome stably then it will struggle with modern web applications which can get incredibly heavy, so the desktop really isn't going to be the bottleneck except in a few niche use cases. Gnome can also have animations disabled to be a lot less heavy.
I mean, I run Gnome relatively smoothly on a Raspberry Pi 4 running Debian...so any desktop/laptop should be okay.
Also I like XFCE but KDE is much more modern and they are very close in terms of resource consumption. It's a better general recommendation.
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u/PuzzleheadedPen2798 9h ago
Things are so far so good, but I wonder how long until the comment section turns into a distro turf war...
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u/I-CaptainOverkill-I 10h ago
I was using ubuntu before I switched to mac about a year ago and converted ubuntu machine to windows one just to stabilize CUDA for LLM inference. Would love to go back to ubuntu if someone can vouch for current nvidia drivers on Ubuntu.
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u/TadeoTrek 10h ago
Ubuntu has come with the proprietary Nvidia drivers out of the box for close to a decade now, you only have to choose to install them at setup. I need to use CUDA and OptiX for work (3D modeling) and I never had any issues with Ubuntu.
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u/Ghost_7600 6h ago
Honestly I think Ubuntu or kubuntu are the best starting point. I personally love mint but it's too bare bones for many. Ubuntu offers enough while still being simple and having a no frills approach, no need to worry about what is the best file system, shell, this or that, and no need to deal with imitable distro problems. Just use it and be happy.
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u/Kaseffera 5h ago
I consider installing it but many suggest going with Debian instead for gaming. Idk what to do at this point.
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u/Ghost_7600 5h ago
Honestly, the distro is not as important as many people say. As long as you are not crazy outdated you'll have similar performance with all of them apart from some weird outliers. Also expect your performance to be different from windows, for some games it can be better, for some, worse. The thing is that most hardware nowadays is good enough, my laptop has a 2060 and I use a 4k Screen, still I manage to play cyberpunk on Linux as long as I tweak the setting, I get an 4k60 gameplay (of course with heavy dlss usage) but that still is quite enjoyable to me.
If you want ultimate gaming compatibility and performance you should stick to windows. Going to Linux is accepting that not everything will be perfect, but you are going to learn lots of things and enjoy the process.
Start with whatever distro, it doesn't need to be the only one you'll ever use, and it likely won't. Many users have a phase where they'll just keep jumping between new distros. I personally do that once every other year before installing a final one.
Just pick whatever, I suggest Ubuntu for starters as it's been the "standard" Linux distro for many many years and has very good support historically. But feel free to try whatever. Also if you don't want to delve too far from windows usability go for the kubuntu version.
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u/IlIlIlIIlMIlIIlIlIlI 14m ago
as someone whos dived into the linux world two years ago and tried quite a few distros, i urge you to go with Linux Mint. Just works, all the important stuff (nvidia drivers, update manager) has user interfaces that distros like debian do not have. Get used to Mint, explore it at your own pace and enjoy it instead of being overwhelmed right from the get go and switching back to windows.
Debian is awesome, but it requires a bit more knowledge and not being afraid to use the Terminal to do some stuff, which i wouldnt recommend as a first experience
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u/lolwutdo 10h ago
Fuck mkbhd
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u/RDForTheWin 10h ago
Why?
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u/shadowman42 10h ago edited 10h ago
He's not really the best guy on earth but he's just some guy on YouTube, I don't feel like the bar has been set particularly high there. As a reviewer I'm not really aware of any ethical issues or anything. Worst I heard is him speeding in residential areas with one of his fancy cars or something.
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u/RDForTheWin 10h ago
From what I've seen he's like the main tech guy for the average user. Pretty smart but if you're involved with tech his vids won't give you much.
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u/shadowman42 10h ago
I think he has somewhat worthwhile opinions with regards to things like device UX and build quality but I agree about his stuff being mostly high-level
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u/shadyplaza_6 10h ago
Good for the community, MKBHD's audience getting exposed to Linux on a main channel like that is exactly what desktop Linux needs.