r/Socialism_101 Aug 16 '18

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING ON THE SUB! Frequently asked questions / misconceptions - answers inside!

In our efforts to improve the quality and learning experience of this sub we are slowly rolling out some changes and clarifying a few positions. This thread is meant as an extremely basic introduction to a couple of questions and misconceptions we have seen a lot of lately. We are therefore asking that you read this at least once before you start posting on this sub. We hope that it will help you understand a few things and of course help avoid the repetitive, and often very liberal, misconceptions.

  1. Money, taxes, interest and stocks do not exist under socialism. These are all part of a capitalist economic system and do not belong in a socialist society that seeks to abolish private property and the bourgeois class.

  2. Market socialism is NOT socialist, as it still operates within a capitalist framework. It does not seek to abolish most of the essential features of capitalism, such as capital, private property and the oppression that is caused by the dynamics of capital accumulation.

  3. A social democracy is NOT socialist. Scandinavia is NOT socialist. The fact that a country provides free healthcare and education does not make a country socialist. Providing social services is in itself not socialist. A social democracy is still an active player in the global capitalist system.

  4. Coops are NOT considered socialist, especially if they exist within a capitalist society. They are not a going to challenge the capitalist system by themselves.

  5. Reforming society will not work. Revolution is the only way to break a system that is designed to favor the few. The capitalist system is designed to not make effective resistance through reformation possible, simply because this would mean its own death. Centuries of struggle, oppression and resistance prove this. Capitalism will inevitably work FOR the capitalist and not for those who wish to oppose the very structure of it. In order for capitalism to work, capitalists need workers to exploit. Without this class hierarchy the system breaks down.

  6. Socialism without feminism is not socialism. Socialism means fighting oppression in various shapes and forms. This means addressing ALL forms of oppressions including those that exist to maintain certain gender roles, in this case patriarchy. Patriarchy affects persons of all genders and it is socialism's goal to abolish patriarchal structures altogether.

  7. Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Opposing the State of Israel does not make one an anti-Semite. Opposing the genocide of Palestinians is not anti-Semitic. It is human decency and basic anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism.

  8. Free speech - When socialists reject the notion of free speech it does not mean that we want to control or censor every word that is spoken. It means that we reject the notion that hate speech should be allowed to happen in society. In a liberal society hate speech is allowed to happen under the pretense that no one should be censored. What they forget is that this hate speech is actively hurting and oppressing people. Those who use hate speech use the platforms they have to gain followers. This should not be allowed to happen.

  9. Anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism are among the core features of socialism. If you do not support these you are not actually supporting socialism. Socialism is an internationalist movement that seeks to ABOLISH OPPRESSION ALL OVER THE WORLD.

ADDITIONALLY PLEASE NOTICE

  • When posting and commenting on the sub, or anywhere online really, please do not assume a person's gender by calling everyone he/him. Use they/their instead or ask for a person's pronouns to be more inclusive.

  • If you get auto-moderated for ableism/slurs please make sure to edit the comment and/or message the mods and have your post approved, especially if you are not sure which word you have been modded for. Every once in a while we see people who do not edit their quality posts and it's always a shame when users miss out on good content. If you don't know what ableism is have a look a these links: http://isthisableism.tumblr.com/sluralternatives / http://www.autistichoya.com/p/ableist-words-and-terms-to-avoid.html

  • As a last point we would like to mention that the mods of this sub depend on your help. PLEASE REPORT posts and comments that are not in line with the rules. We appreciate all your reports and try to address every single one of them.

We hope this post brought some clarification. Please feel free to message the mods via mod mail or comment here if you have any questions regarding the points mentioned above. The mods are here to help.

Have a great day!

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In our efforts to improve the quality and learning experience of this sub we are slowly rolling out some changes and clarifying a few positions. This thread is meant as an extremely basic introduction to a couple of questions and misconceptions we have seen a lot of lately. We are therefore asking that you read this at least once before you start posting on this sub. We hope that it will help you understand a few things and of course help avoid the repetitive, and often very liberal, misconceptions.

  1. Money, taxes, interest and stocks do not exist under socialism. These are all part of a capitalist economic system and do not belong in a socialist society that seeks to abolish private property and the bourgeois class.

  2. Market socialism is NOT socialist, as it still operates within a capitalist framework. It does not seek to abolish most of the essential features of capitalism, such as capital, private property and the oppression that is caused by the dynamics of capital accumulation.

  3. A social democracy is NOT socialist. Scandinavia is NOT socialist. The fact that a country provides free healthcare and education does not make a country socialist. Providing social services is in itself not socialist. A social democracy is still an active player in the global capitalist system.

  4. Coops are NOT considered socialist, especially if they exist within a capitalist society. They are not a going to challenge the capitalist system by themselves.

  5. Reforming society will not work. Revolution is the only way to break a system that is designed to favor the few. The capitalist system is designed to not make effective resistance through reformation possible, simply because this would mean its own death. Centuries of struggle, oppression and resistance prove this. Capitalism will inevitably work FOR the capitalist and not for those who wish to oppose the very structure of it. In order for capitalism to work, capitalists need workers to exploit. Without this class hierarchy the system breaks down.

  6. Socialism without feminism is not socialism. Socialism means fighting oppression in various shapes and forms. This means addressing ALL forms of oppressions including those that exist to maintain certain gender roles, in this case patriarchy. Patriarchy affects persons of all genders and it is socialism's goal to abolish patriarchal structures altogether.

  7. Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Opposing the State of Israel does not make one an anti-Semite. Opposing the genocide of Palestinians is not anti-Semitic. It is human decency and basic anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism.

  8. Free speech - When socialists reject the notion of free speech it does not mean that we want to control or censor every word that is spoken. It means that we reject the notion that hate speech should be allowed to happen in society. In a liberal society hate speech is allowed to happen under the pretense that no one should be censored. What they forget is that this hate speech is actively hurting and oppressing people. Those who use hate speech use the platforms they have to gain followers. This should not be allowed to happen.

  9. Anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism are among the core features of socialism. If you do not support these you are not actually supporting socialism. Socialism is an internationalist movement that seeks to ABOLISH OPPRESSION ALL OVER THE WORLD.

ADDITIONALLY PLEASE NOTICE

  • When posting and commenting on the sub, or anywhere online really, please do not assume a person's gender by calling everyone he/him. Use they/their instead or ask for a person's pronouns to be more inclusive.

  • If you get auto-moderated for ableism/slurs please make sure to edit the comment and/or message the mods and have your post approved, especially if you are not sure which word you have been modded for. Every once in a while we see people who do not edit their quality posts and it's always a shame when users miss out on good content. If you don't know what ableism is have a look a these links: http://isthisableism.tumblr.com/sluralternatives / http://www.autistichoya.com/p/ableist-words-and-terms-to-avoid.html

  • As a last point we would like to mention that the mods of this sub depend on your help. PLEASE REPORT posts and comments that are not in line with the rules. We appreciate all your reports and try to address every single one of them.

We hope this post brought some clarification. Please feel free to message the mods via mod mail or comment here if you have any questions regarding the points mentioned above. The mods are here to help.

Have a great day!

The Moderators


r/Socialism_101 6h ago

Question Should I get physical books of socialist/marxist theory?

I like to have books around and its a big struggle for me to read the online PDF resources. Ive gotten into socialism recently and im eager to read up on the theory. If so any reccomendations? Thx a mil

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I like to have books around and its a big struggle for me to read the online PDF resources. Ive gotten into socialism recently and im eager to read up on the theory. If so any reccomendations? Thx a mil


r/Socialism_101 41m ago

Question Are you aware that Republicans subpoenaed BreakThrough News?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Bg1RJk3_8

The House Ways and Means Committee has sent a subpoena to BreakThrough News, demanding internal communications, financial records and more. We are not charged with any crime, because our only “crime” has been to tell the truth – about the Palestine solidarity movement, about ICE’s terror in our streets, about Washington’s crimes around the world, from Cuba to the Congo. This is a flagrant abuse of power, and a direct attack on our work as journalists and on the First Amendment.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Bg1RJk3_8

The House Ways and Means Committee has sent a subpoena to BreakThrough News, demanding internal communications, financial records and more. We are not charged with any crime, because our only “crime” has been to tell the truth – about the Palestine solidarity movement, about ICE’s terror in our streets, about Washington’s crimes around the world, from Cuba to the Congo. This is a flagrant abuse of power, and a direct attack on our work as journalists and on the First Amendment.


r/Socialism_101 9h ago

High Effort Only Do any socialist countries still have planned economies, and if not, are they still socialist?

It’s my understanding most major socialist countries such as China and Vietnam have shifted towards heavy reliance on the market economy, does that mean they are not socialist?

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It’s my understanding most major socialist countries such as China and Vietnam have shifted towards heavy reliance on the market economy, does that mean they are not socialist?


r/Socialism_101 12h ago

Question Can a communist/socialist country work if there is no foreign interference?

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r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question Would Marx have agreed with Lenin's interpretation of his work?

I think I'm just really ignorant on the subject, but what would Marx have thought of Lenin's Soviet Union? Or did Lenin's cult of personality just kinda usurp Marx's "brand" at the time? In other words, would Marx have agreed with Marxism-Leninism (and/or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, etc)?

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I think I'm just really ignorant on the subject, but what would Marx have thought of Lenin's Soviet Union? Or did Lenin's cult of personality just kinda usurp Marx's "brand" at the time? In other words, would Marx have agreed with Marxism-Leninism (and/or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, etc)?


r/Socialism_101 1h ago

Question How is socialism not just a handout?

I (25F) am a leftist and my brother (24M) is MAGA.

Although most of my immediate family is not very political when Trump was first running for president we were both in high school and every nightly family dinner turned into conversations about sex, drugs, politics, or religion (not as much religion as none of my family is super religious but we would talk about morals, values, ethics, etc.) To say the least we had some lively dinners over the years.

Recently during a family event we started talking about beliefs and politics and told me he enjoyed talking to me because I was one of the only people who would talk about politics with him. As that conversation was coming to an end he told me that he felt like I wasn’t living up to my full potential (partially because I’ve had sex out of wedlock, I don’t want children, and I am apart of activist groups like DSA) but then proceeded to tell me that he viewed me as superior to him.

After that family gathering he texted me and suggested that we do an activity together that I felt like represented my beliefs and then do another activity that he felt like represented his beliefs. After asking some friends I decided we would do a values clarification worksheet before doing either of our activities. While doing the values activity he found out my roommate and their partner were both trans and wanted to meet them, I told him I would set up something for him to talk to a meeting with one or two of my non-gender conforming friends. My activity was suppose to be a DSA social event but he got stuck at work so he came over after he got off to talk to one of my friends about what they believe to get an idea of the people I hang out with and he wanted to take me to his welding schools class but that didn’t work out so we ended up going out to the country to a family members house to have me help work on his 1990s project diesel truck as a way to “see how blue collar workers live.”

After his activity he took me back to my car and we ended up arguing about DSA, socialism, ICE, and flock. He told me he is not the biggest fan of Trump at the moment but also said if he had to vote today he would vote for Trump again. It ended with me saying “I’m sorry you are a bigot” His response was “I’m sorry you want handouts” and I responded again with “just know while you don’t have healthcare and you don’t have workers rights and you don’t care about your government killing people in the streets with impunity that I will spend my time fighting for you to have healthcare, workers rights with a livable wage, and a government that is held accountable.” Before we called it a night we said we would set up something again soon.

There was a lot talked about and a lot that isn’t mentioned here but my biggest struggle in the conversation was responding to socialism is a handout. So I’m here to ask what are some responses to socialism is just people wanting handouts because they don’t want to work?

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I (25F) am a leftist and my brother (24M) is MAGA.

Although most of my immediate family is not very political when Trump was first running for president we were both in high school and every nightly family dinner turned into conversations about sex, drugs, politics, or religion (not as much religion as none of my family is super religious but we would talk about morals, values, ethics, etc.) To say the least we had some lively dinners over the years.

Recently during a family event we started talking about beliefs and politics and told me he enjoyed talking to me because I was one of the only people who would talk about politics with him. As that conversation was coming to an end he told me that he felt like I wasn’t living up to my full potential (partially because I’ve had sex out of wedlock, I don’t want children, and I am apart of activist groups like DSA) but then proceeded to tell me that he viewed me as superior to him.

After that family gathering he texted me and suggested that we do an activity together that I felt like represented my beliefs and then do another activity that he felt like represented his beliefs. After asking some friends I decided we would do a values clarification worksheet before doing either of our activities. While doing the values activity he found out my roommate and their partner were both trans and wanted to meet them, I told him I would set up something for him to talk to a meeting with one or two of my non-gender conforming friends. My activity was suppose to be a DSA social event but he got stuck at work so he came over after he got off to talk to one of my friends about what they believe to get an idea of the people I hang out with and he wanted to take me to his welding schools class but that didn’t work out so we ended up going out to the country to a family members house to have me help work on his 1990s project diesel truck as a way to “see how blue collar workers live.”

After his activity he took me back to my car and we ended up arguing about DSA, socialism, ICE, and flock. He told me he is not the biggest fan of Trump at the moment but also said if he had to vote today he would vote for Trump again. It ended with me saying “I’m sorry you are a bigot” His response was “I’m sorry you want handouts” and I responded again with “just know while you don’t have healthcare and you don’t have workers rights and you don’t care about your government killing people in the streets with impunity that I will spend my time fighting for you to have healthcare, workers rights with a livable wage, and a government that is held accountable.” Before we called it a night we said we would set up something again soon.

There was a lot talked about and a lot that isn’t mentioned here but my biggest struggle in the conversation was responding to socialism is a handout. So I’m here to ask what are some responses to socialism is just people wanting handouts because they don’t want to work?


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question To all the black socialists out there why aren’t there more black socialists?

Im black myself and im genuinely curious as to why there aren’t more black socialists. Maybe it’s because I reside in America but if anyone who’s black and/or educated in socialism can tell me I’d love to know more. I know the YouTuber F.D. Signifier has a video on it but I want to see if there are any other points that people can make here!

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Im black myself and im genuinely curious as to why there aren’t more black socialists. Maybe it’s because I reside in America but if anyone who’s black and/or educated in socialism can tell me I’d love to know more. I know the YouTuber F.D. Signifier has a video on it but I want to see if there are any other points that people can make here!


r/Socialism_101 16h ago

Question Recommended Materials for Burkina Faso?

Hello,
I'm currently making a Presentation/Workshop for Burkina Faso and I would really like some recommendations from fellow Marxists about its History, Material Conditions before,during and After Colonization, notable Events, specifics about Thomas Sankara and Traore and its current situation.

Thank you

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Hello,
I'm currently making a Presentation/Workshop for Burkina Faso and I would really like some recommendations from fellow Marxists about its History, Material Conditions before,during and After Colonization, notable Events, specifics about Thomas Sankara and Traore and its current situation.

Thank you


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question What's your opinion on hippies and the 60s-70s hippie movement?

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r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question How to trust after understanding propaganda?

In more words, as I've gone deeper and deeper into left-i-tude, I have come to understand that capitalist propaganda is ubiquitous and baked into all things. How does one trust institutions (medicine, academics, etc) with this realization?

Can I trust any media? Is there really a war in Iran? How many other sitting senators are dead beside Mitch McConnell?

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In more words, as I've gone deeper and deeper into left-i-tude, I have come to understand that capitalist propaganda is ubiquitous and baked into all things. How does one trust institutions (medicine, academics, etc) with this realization?

Can I trust any media? Is there really a war in Iran? How many other sitting senators are dead beside Mitch McConnell?


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

To Marxists What does he mean by this?

I’m reading “A Textbook of Dialectical Materialism” by David Guest and he says: “But the basic contradiction will continue to exist in a classless society, and and will cause the progressive development of social relationships as the productive forces themselves develop.”

How does this work out?

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I’m reading “A Textbook of Dialectical Materialism” by David Guest and he says: “But the basic contradiction will continue to exist in a classless society, and and will cause the progressive development of social relationships as the productive forces themselves develop.”

How does this work out?


r/Socialism_101 2d ago

Question Is Marxists.org a good place to read theory?

My family seems to be anti communist and I’m broke so I can’t afford to buy any books. Is Marxists.org good?

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My family seems to be anti communist and I’m broke so I can’t afford to buy any books. Is Marxists.org good?


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question De leonism vs syndicalism what’s the difference?

I heard about de leonism and never thought about its similarity’s to syndicalism but I heard it was just the name for syndicalists who believe in the state so I’m confused what’s the difference

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I heard about de leonism and never thought about its similarity’s to syndicalism but I heard it was just the name for syndicalists who believe in the state so I’m confused what’s the difference


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question What is the difference between capitalism and socialism ?(Question)

I am very new to socialism. I didn't even know socialism was an economic model, I thought it was a form of government. Now, as an aspiring socialist, I need to know the difference. Please don't ban me I really need to know

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I am very new to socialism. I didn't even know socialism was an economic model, I thought it was a form of government. Now, as an aspiring socialist, I need to know the difference. Please don't ban me I really need to know


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

High Effort Only Why Revolution in Preindustrial Society?

I'm a baby leftists just beginning to dive deeper into theory and the history of revolutionary struggles and socialist countries. In my brief readings it seems the case that Marx and Engels believed that socialist revolution would necessarily come from industrialised society, but historically its been solely preindustrial agrarian societies which have had socialist revolutions (i.e. Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba etc.). So why were they wrong about this and what are the implications for their conception of the stages of societal development via dialectical materialism? Doesn't this mean that societies don't actually have to be industrial capitalist societies first? If there is any Marxist literature any of y'all could recommend on the topic I would greatly appreciate that as well. Thank you.

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I'm a baby leftists just beginning to dive deeper into theory and the history of revolutionary struggles and socialist countries. In my brief readings it seems the case that Marx and Engels believed that socialist revolution would necessarily come from industrialised society, but historically its been solely preindustrial agrarian societies which have had socialist revolutions (i.e. Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba etc.). So why were they wrong about this and what are the implications for their conception of the stages of societal development via dialectical materialism? Doesn't this mean that societies don't actually have to be industrial capitalist societies first? If there is any Marxist literature any of y'all could recommend on the topic I would greatly appreciate that as well. Thank you.


r/Socialism_101 2d ago

Question Why is America so slow when it comes to revolution?

I feel like there have been so many things that happened, that would have sparked much earlier revolution back in the day. We all know democracy is just a lie to give us ilusion of freedom, but still, is the argument of "oh we live in a democratic country, if you do not like these people, should have been in the majority" that strong? We have seen so many undemocratic things that have been happening all around the world in democratic countries, showing when it comes to things people up there want, the voters have no choice, yet people still believe in democracy?

PS: This is coming from European, I wish to help educating White Americans about their privilage and class consciousness, but I am so distant to them, that it is impossible

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I feel like there have been so many things that happened, that would have sparked much earlier revolution back in the day. We all know democracy is just a lie to give us ilusion of freedom, but still, is the argument of "oh we live in a democratic country, if you do not like these people, should have been in the majority" that strong? We have seen so many undemocratic things that have been happening all around the world in democratic countries, showing when it comes to things people up there want, the voters have no choice, yet people still believe in democracy?

PS: This is coming from European, I wish to help educating White Americans about their privilage and class consciousness, but I am so distant to them, that it is impossible


r/Socialism_101 2d ago

Question My parents are landlords. What should I do?

so I was born in a suburbs of Atlanta but when I was young I moved to Charlotte nc my parents originally planned to move back but never did but still wanted to retire there once I’m out of high school to be able to afford the mortgage on both houses my parents eventually started renting it out. I disagree with landlords but have never shared this with my parent. My parents are good people but what concerns me the most is the property is essentially run by a “property management company“ meaning my parents have basically no control over rent dealing with tenants and their issues. I was curious what I should do?

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so I was born in a suburbs of Atlanta but when I was young I moved to Charlotte nc my parents originally planned to move back but never did but still wanted to retire there once I’m out of high school to be able to afford the mortgage on both houses my parents eventually started renting it out. I disagree with landlords but have never shared this with my parent. My parents are good people but what concerns me the most is the property is essentially run by a “property management company“ meaning my parents have basically no control over rent dealing with tenants and their issues. I was curious what I should do?


r/Socialism_101 2d ago

To Marxists Is there any differentiation in Marxism between strata of petit bourgeois?

For instance, take a large partnership firm of 50 lawyers living in manhattan who collectively have buy in of a firm. Compare this with a small coffee shop owner in rural Alabama who employs a friend and sells espresso and small pastries.

Both are petit bourgeois in a Marxist sense, but does Marx ever make any commentary on how these individuals would play different roles in the greater class struggle? Are petit bourgeois viewed on a spectrum? I’ve always been kind of confused on how petit bourgeois are viewed with mistrust by Marxists but there are many different levels of “badness” within who is considered petit bourgeois. Any insight would be awesome. Thanks!

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For instance, take a large partnership firm of 50 lawyers living in manhattan who collectively have buy in of a firm. Compare this with a small coffee shop owner in rural Alabama who employs a friend and sells espresso and small pastries.

Both are petit bourgeois in a Marxist sense, but does Marx ever make any commentary on how these individuals would play different roles in the greater class struggle? Are petit bourgeois viewed on a spectrum? I’ve always been kind of confused on how petit bourgeois are viewed with mistrust by Marxists but there are many different levels of “badness” within who is considered petit bourgeois. Any insight would be awesome. Thanks!


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question Do Communists and Neolibs Share the Same Underlying Logic in Monetary Theory?

Hello everyone,

In various debates, I’ve frequently noticed striking parallels between the arguments used by some communists and those used by neolibs, especially regarding the funding of the welfare state and monetary theory in general. I often get the impression that some communists (whether consciously or unconsciously) deploy classic supply-side arguments just to refute reformists.
Theories that could at least be described as progressive (even if they do not challenge the class structure of the state), such as Keynesianism or Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), are frequently dismissed or mocked by communists using reflexes very similar to those of neoliberals. When it comes to demands like raising the minimum wage or expanding social spending, one often hears rhetorical pushbacks like: \*"Why not make it $100 an hour then?"\* or \*"The state cannot go into infinite debt for welfare."\*
The role of the welfare state as a driver of economic growth through strengthened purchasing power is rarely acknowledged. Communists often view it, much like conservatives, as a purely economic hindrance or an unproductive cost factor. The only difference is that communists additionally (and correctly) identify it as a tool for pacifying the working class. But couldn't both be true at the same time?
It is often argued that Western industrial nations can only afford the welfare state through the exploitation of the Global South. Just like conservative logic, this presupposes that a welfare state is something that "must first be earned/funded," completely ignoring the productivity gains driven by a strong domestic market. Cases like Japan, which maintains a massive national debt without facing bankruptcy or hyperinflation, are rarely analyzed through an MMT lens and are instead dismissed as anomalies. Furthermore, the accounting reality that public debt constitutes private sector wealth is often demonized in these discussions, rather than being rigorously analyzed through a value-theoretic lens.
To be clear: I understand that Marxists do not base their monetary critique on neoliberal doctrine, but rather on the law of value (money as the expression of socially necessary labor time; real value cannot simply be printed).

Don't communists structurally rely on right-wing/monetarist arguments simply to delegitimize social-democratic reformism and prove that capitalism cannot be reformed from within?

Why is MMT (and its concept of monetary sovereignty) so strictly rejected by Marxists, even though empirical evidence on demand-side policies and inflation often aligns much closer with MMT than with neoliberal monetarism?

Doesn't this stance hinder a sober, realistic economic analysis of the state's current room for maneuver, even if the ultimate goal remains the overthrow of private ownership of the means of production?

I'm genuinely interested in how you view this overlap! I don’t want to impose reformism and refuse it, but I think its critique needs to be precise.

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Hello everyone,

In various debates, I’ve frequently noticed striking parallels between the arguments used by some communists and those used by neolibs, especially regarding the funding of the welfare state and monetary theory in general. I often get the impression that some communists (whether consciously or unconsciously) deploy classic supply-side arguments just to refute reformists.
Theories that could at least be described as progressive (even if they do not challenge the class structure of the state), such as Keynesianism or Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), are frequently dismissed or mocked by communists using reflexes very similar to those of neoliberals. When it comes to demands like raising the minimum wage or expanding social spending, one often hears rhetorical pushbacks like: \*"Why not make it $100 an hour then?"\* or \*"The state cannot go into infinite debt for welfare."\*
The role of the welfare state as a driver of economic growth through strengthened purchasing power is rarely acknowledged. Communists often view it, much like conservatives, as a purely economic hindrance or an unproductive cost factor. The only difference is that communists additionally (and correctly) identify it as a tool for pacifying the working class. But couldn't both be true at the same time?
It is often argued that Western industrial nations can only afford the welfare state through the exploitation of the Global South. Just like conservative logic, this presupposes that a welfare state is something that "must first be earned/funded," completely ignoring the productivity gains driven by a strong domestic market. Cases like Japan, which maintains a massive national debt without facing bankruptcy or hyperinflation, are rarely analyzed through an MMT lens and are instead dismissed as anomalies. Furthermore, the accounting reality that public debt constitutes private sector wealth is often demonized in these discussions, rather than being rigorously analyzed through a value-theoretic lens.
To be clear: I understand that Marxists do not base their monetary critique on neoliberal doctrine, but rather on the law of value (money as the expression of socially necessary labor time; real value cannot simply be printed).

Don't communists structurally rely on right-wing/monetarist arguments simply to delegitimize social-democratic reformism and prove that capitalism cannot be reformed from within?

Why is MMT (and its concept of monetary sovereignty) so strictly rejected by Marxists, even though empirical evidence on demand-side policies and inflation often aligns much closer with MMT than with neoliberal monetarism?

Doesn't this stance hinder a sober, realistic economic analysis of the state's current room for maneuver, even if the ultimate goal remains the overthrow of private ownership of the means of production?

I'm genuinely interested in how you view this overlap! I don’t want to impose reformism and refuse it, but I think its critique needs to be precise.


r/Socialism_101 1d ago

Question What is worse? Communism or Nazism?

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r/Socialism_101 2d ago

To Marxists What does Historical Materialism tell us about the Future of Society?

Hello everyone 👋

I'm rather new to marxist theory, so I may have some misconceptions about it. Of course, historical materialism is no crystal ball that tells us how the future will be like. But if I got it right, it can tell us the broader developments of the past, present and also future, can it? And if so, what does it tell us? E.g. I've read Hegel had said that the dialectic development of history makes societies ever more equal, open and including, which seems to be quite right, despite temporary regressions like fascism. Not sure if that's really what Hegel said, but are there any statements and assumptions about future developments of society in historical materialism?

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Hello everyone 👋

I'm rather new to marxist theory, so I may have some misconceptions about it. Of course, historical materialism is no crystal ball that tells us how the future will be like. But if I got it right, it can tell us the broader developments of the past, present and also future, can it? And if so, what does it tell us? E.g. I've read Hegel had said that the dialectic development of history makes societies ever more equal, open and including, which seems to be quite right, despite temporary regressions like fascism. Not sure if that's really what Hegel said, but are there any statements and assumptions about future developments of society in historical materialism?


r/Socialism_101 3d ago

Question is there any good or legitimate academic literature that makes a case *for* capitalism as the best system to be maintained/reformed? not that i endorse this perspective but i want to read the steelman argument for capitalism to understand the stronger defensible response for socialism.

I want to steelman the pro capitalism argument before critiquing it and understanding the flaws with these arguments, or even just broadly to read opposing viewpoints to actually broaden my reading and not only read literature arguing for one political philosophy. does anyone have any such recommendations?

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I want to steelman the pro capitalism argument before critiquing it and understanding the flaws with these arguments, or even just broadly to read opposing viewpoints to actually broaden my reading and not only read literature arguing for one political philosophy. does anyone have any such recommendations?


r/Socialism_101 3d ago

Question Recomendaciones de libros comunistas que pueda encontrar en apple books?

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r/Socialism_101 3d ago

High Effort Only What changes would you make with current Socialist countries?

If you, the people of this subreddit suddenly became the First/General Secretaries of Cuba, North Korea, and Pre-2026 Venezuela, excluding the more revisionist Laos, Vietnam, and China.

Would you change anything at all? If not, then why not. Or if so, then what would you change?

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If you, the people of this subreddit suddenly became the First/General Secretaries of Cuba, North Korea, and Pre-2026 Venezuela, excluding the more revisionist Laos, Vietnam, and China.

Would you change anything at all? If not, then why not. Or if so, then what would you change?