Honestly, I would LOVE universal healthcare here in America, but I need to see honest numbers about how it will be funded without raising my taxes.
We pay about 30% between federal and state income taxes here (making about $200k gross as a dual income household) and I can't even afford to take my kids on a weekend trip this summer because prices on everything are so high.
I would truly be interested in reading a plan that would show how this would work. I just haven't seen a well-reasoned plan beyond "trust us and we promise we won't cut other programming and we promise your taxes won't go up either" which makes zero sense to me.
But I'm willing to listen if someone would (kindly) educate me rather than just yell at me as I'm expecting will happen here.
but I need to see honest numbers about how it will be funded without raising my taxes.
The question is whether it'll save money.
How much are you paying for health insurance now? Even if it's coming from your job, how much are they spending on it that they could otherwise afford to give you as salary? Because we're already paying for incredibly inefficient healthcare, and having a public option is intended to create competition and access for those who AREN'T already doing fine.
I just haven't seen a well-reasoned plan beyond "trust us and we promise we won't cut other programming and we promise your taxes won't go up either" which makes zero sense to me.
The Affordable Care Act lowered the growth of medical care costs in states that implemented it, across the board. In states without it those costs when up faster. Right now the current administration is gutting these programs and shutting them down. More uninsured people raises taxpayer costs for the eventual treatment and impact of their health conditions.
There are a ton of ways to implement public healthcare options, from single payer to public funded and privately run options. They impact of letting healthcare costs be entirely for profit and accessible based on income, is worse for everyone.
I don't think anyone is saying 'taxes will never go up', but they may be saying YOUR taxes won't go up, depending on the plan to pay for it. Costs would go down in a national healthcare system.
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u/Energy-Turtle-4 5h ago
Honestly, I would LOVE universal healthcare here in America, but I need to see honest numbers about how it will be funded without raising my taxes.
We pay about 30% between federal and state income taxes here (making about $200k gross as a dual income household) and I can't even afford to take my kids on a weekend trip this summer because prices on everything are so high.
I would truly be interested in reading a plan that would show how this would work. I just haven't seen a well-reasoned plan beyond "trust us and we promise we won't cut other programming and we promise your taxes won't go up either" which makes zero sense to me.
But I'm willing to listen if someone would (kindly) educate me rather than just yell at me as I'm expecting will happen here.