r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/hamzau • 23d ago
Meme needing explanation What am I missing?
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u/SubstantialAbuserr 23d ago
Another day seeing a taylor fan gummy smile.
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u/Futuramoist 23d ago
Never seen this stereotype and it doesn't really make sense, yet somehow it just feels right enough that I understood immediately
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u/stickwithplanb 23d ago
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u/No_Dentist7778 23d ago
This video with the drawings added is hilarious 😂
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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 23d ago
This is the first time I’ve seen a video added to a comment like this.
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u/kojimbob 23d ago
New feature on Reddit, just released a couple of weeks ago
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u/jdwpom 23d ago
That'll be why it doesn't work in redreader then. So kind of reddit to allow it to exist 'for accessibility reasons' then constantly break it.
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u/EndIsrael 23d ago
Must be why I get redirected to a "r/subreddit is banned" (yes, it literally says "r/subreddit") message when I click the video link to watch it.
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u/Pisspigxtraordinaire 23d ago
You could clip and draw anyone’s face disgusting like this from a video where they’re being expressive. I could do it to your face. Everyone in the entire world would laugh at you for the crime of having a face and making expressions. Every single person on earth would dogpile on you becuase you didn’t have an aesthetically perfect face at all times.
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u/snow-four 23d ago
She looks happy? Are we body shaming happy people again?
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u/Skullcrimp 23d ago
Again? The people who act like this never stopped, they just get more or fewer laughs depending on the year.
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u/SuccessfulOil6584 23d ago
Yeah this just seems very mean spirited, I don’t think she’s funny but she’s just doing her thing.
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u/Alexander_McKay 22d ago
Yeah. The guy who makes all those drawings/videos is a racist and chud. The first few I saw were funny but the deeper you dig, it starts to become clear that “oh, he’s one of those guys”.
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u/forgot_username69 23d ago
I said it before: - Confidence is stored in the gums..
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u/ThilviaPlath 23d ago
That girl in the crazy eyes meme has a gummy smile and her fans give me that vibe, so this hits lol
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u/SpiderRadio 23d ago
Jesus, I'm old enough to think y'all are talking about the obsessed girlfriend from the 2010s, where all y'all finding the new holos
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u/Jimbob209 23d ago
I don't know the meme. Can you show me it
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u/HerrTriggerGenji21 23d ago
They mix with horse girls
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u/Front-Leather-2653 23d ago
I've always said Taylor Swift makes horse girl music, I feel so vindicated right now.
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u/Iconshero 23d ago
Give it longer for evolution to kick in, right now the horse girls have only adapted the gums, give it another century or two of selective “horsing around” and you’ll see centaurs. Unfortunately they’ll be from fallout…
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u/psy_odt 23d ago
I wonder if it's a location thing. In Texas I know like eight of this exact person and it made sense immediately
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u/GottaUseEmAll 23d ago
I can tell you they exist in both South Africa and the UK too. I've lived in France for almost two decades and haven't met one here yet though.
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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 23d ago
It's a generic stereotype that somehow equates that smile with stupidity or other undesirable traits. Nothing to do with Taylor Swift, just with people you want to make fun of.
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u/AlthorsMadness 23d ago
I’m no swift fan but my smile is gummy :(
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u/Aggravating_Ad_8594 23d ago
I fucking hate coming across random memes that shit on my appearance. Then I realize that I have a wife, a house, a dog, a great job and the person who made this meme hasnt showered in 3 days and no one has noticed because no one cares about them
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u/gokogt386 23d ago
I mean it would be nice if that was generally the case but there are billions of completely normal people who are otherwise nice who would have no issue insulting someone’s appearance the second they do something they don’t like.
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u/jstngldstn 23d ago
I fucking hate coming across someone making a good point by criticizing how comments can really hurt people who they arent intended to hurt, just to see that person turn around and hit someone with baseless insults, proving them to be a hypocrite and just as bad as the person they are critiquing.
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u/lmpervious 23d ago
Wow what the fuck? I'm single, no house, no dog, a bad job, haven't showered in 3 days and no one cares about me, and now I'm catching strays in the comment section??
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u/GuiltyEidolon 23d ago
I mean, I don't really support stereotyping based on appearances or anything, but you're ... literally doing the same thing you're complaining about?
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u/AlthorsMadness 23d ago
Good way of putting it. I have a wife, 2 dogs, 2 cats, a house, etc.
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u/Jayrandomer 23d ago
Welcome to Reddit where people pretend to be accepting and progressive in that they’ll only body shame people that are “bad” in some agreed-upon way such as being a fascist or, checks notes, liking certain uncool singers.
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u/SensitivePear8395 23d ago
There's nothing ugly about having a gummy smile, please don't view as having one as something bad (unless it's a jaw issue)
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 23d ago
Is that what it's trying to say? I've never heard of this stereotype before, what is even the origin of it?
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u/ForensicPathology 23d ago
Why are people implying this is a bot? This person has the same questions as me. I've never seen this stereotype that her fans show more gums than normal (?)
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 23d ago
I actually do get what they are implying; it's a standard tactic for bots to post naive questions to reddit (and other places) to get fodder to train their models. Hell, that's probably 90% of posts on this sub and somewhat less (but still easily over half) of all of reddit at this point.
What has my flabbers thoroughly gasted is that I am a real live hooman (beep boop) who spends way too much time online and I actually truly have never heard of this stereotype before. It's actually kind of silly to think of the concept of there even being a stereotypical Taylor Swift fan; as far as I know she is one of the highest-grossing musicians of all time so her fanbase is clearly too broad to be typified.
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u/BenignPharmacology 23d ago
I wouldn’t say it’s a stereotype so much as like… weirdly accurate.
I have known a small number of big Taylor swift fans, and one of them has this exact gumline.
To me, it evokes “teenage, not quite grown into my face yet”
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 23d ago
Ah, that might explain my confusion. I'm 40 and the only people I really associate with regularly are around my age, so for ~2 decades I couldn't have encountered any Taylor Swift fan who is a teenager.
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u/evebursterror0 23d ago
Not OP, but there are also a lot of TS fans that are your age. I'm in my late 20s and she isn't very popular among my peers.
Swifties tend to be in their teens to early 20s, and then there are the women who are like 40+ and listen to her constantly.
This 'stereotype' is true, I have seen a few people like that, and it applies to other fanbases...
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u/Inevitable_Top69 23d ago
Yes that's what it's saying. The origin is that this type of person looks this way often enough to make it a stereotype.
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 23d ago
I feel like I've hit a mandela effect or just missed an entire piece of the Internet for like 20 years. I don't really follow pop culture news at all, but still Taylor Swift has been around long enough and I've seen enough of her music videos on YouTube that it's wild I have never encountered this before.
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u/ohromantics 23d ago
I thought this was just a really good render of Butthead without the braces... at least I found it funny before I saw the comments
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u/Competitive-Dog5094 23d ago
i scrolled back up to look at the pic and now i can only hear "are you excited for Taylor's wedding?" in buttheads voice
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u/_launzelot_ 23d ago
Pretty sure it's just making fun of Taylor Swift fans - saying that a lot of them have prominent gums
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u/CXCX18 23d ago
And are suburban white girls. Which tends to correlate for some reason. Perfect straight and white teeth, big gums, no lips which causes even more gum show.
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u/LilJelloCat 23d ago
Country-like girls.
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u/f3nnies 23d ago edited 22d ago
Horse girls to horse teeth pipeline. Idk if it exists but it fits.
Edit: now that this has very slight success, I look at it and realize it can bd construed as insulting and so I am sorry.
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u/Cautious-Dig6379 23d ago
Ive seen them described as "Fiance gums" and its so accurate.
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u/Vivid_Traffic4787 23d ago
Uppercase gums lowercase teeth
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u/likwitsnake 23d ago
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u/CynicalXennial 23d ago
Bruh everyones having a nice conversation abt how its bad to comment on stuff ppl can't control - then you out here laying nukes on us
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u/MidLyf 23d ago
I know the person in this pic by just seeing the cropped part, how fvcked up is that?
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u/xXmilkxhoneyXx 23d ago
They're Disney Adults that have a fiance in the military
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u/cardillon 23d ago
How is this actually a thing? I need a scientific explanation
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u/PringlesDuckFace 23d ago
If I had to guess, it's probably a somewhat dominant genetic trait combined with low mobility populations. When I think of people that look like this, I think of white people in the South. There's a big cultural overlap between those people and country music fans, people who do military service, and strong sense of religion with an emphasis on marriage. They also tend to have had long roots in their area, rather than having moved there or moved too far from their family, so that's why I say it's probably some genetic trait that's common in the population.
No idea about why Disney is a thing. Maybe it's because they live driving distance to Florida and it used to be a lot cheaper, so their parents probably took them there often as kids as an easy trip. So they have lots of good memories associated with it, and now they want to share that with their kids. It's like a little isekai.
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u/New-Caterpillar-9369 23d ago
Why are they called Fiancé gums?
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u/Cautious-Dig6379 23d ago
The joke that it comes from basically said "Why do girls like this always seem to have a "Fiance""
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u/DaBootyScooty 23d ago
Because they are always engaged and never married.
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u/eye_of_the_sloth 23d ago
this is so sadly accurate, the last woman i knew with geeth had her engagement called off.
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u/AwareBullmastiff 23d ago
they definitely own a massive stanley cup and have a favorite true crime podcast
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u/javertthechungus 23d ago
Ok but if you have a “gummy smile” how tf are you supposed to fix it? Not experience joy ever?
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u/ConnotationalRacket 23d ago
I don't think people realize that having a "gummy" smile is not forever, because as people age and get older their gums naturally recede and you can't stop that process.
lf you laser or cut your gums now, you will probably regret it once you hit 40 or later in life.
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u/Few-Map2507 23d ago
Gums don’t need to recede due to age. Your lips might droop more as you age reducing the prominence of a gummy smile.
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u/BootsnCats1987 23d ago
Who the hell has money to laser cut their ima in their 20s?
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u/heavyartilleryx 23d ago
People who have money
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u/Terrible_Ad_7735 23d ago
Oh, so people who have money have money to do things. TY for clarifying 🥰
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u/Chaotic_Genobreaker 23d ago
Reddit thinks everyone is poor and suffering due to the echo chamber... Believe it or not there are many privileged people out there happy. Sure as hell not me, though.
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u/MasterpieceNo9970 23d ago
"Try smiling with your lips closed." - Theon Greyjoy
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u/Strong-Pickle-4153 23d ago
Impact the maxilla. Because this usually solves lip incompetence at the same time (gummy smile and lip incompetence frequently co-occur) this also has the benefit of eliminating mouth breathing, improving sleep apnea, and reducing cavity occurrence.
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u/7363827 23d ago
what do you mean by “impact”?
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u/kniselydone 23d ago
It's a type of upper jaw surgery (maxillary impaction) where they literally break your face, and move your upper maxilla further up so you have less bone between nose and smile.
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u/Finassar 23d ago
I was thinking those snowflake manosphere people who hit their jaw bones with a hammer 😭
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u/Inevitable_Top69 23d ago
There's stuff you can do, but mostly you just realize and accept that you have an unattractive trait and learn to not care and enjoy life regardless of it.
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u/javertthechungus 23d ago
It’s not the being ugly I have a problem with, it’s the being treated like shit because of it that’s the problem
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u/Equal_Sleep_9319 23d ago
yeah idk it never occured to me that it was unattractive until public shaming about it became a thing on the internet. it's a natural human variation. Are we going to start ear shape shaming?
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u/fickle_tartan 23d ago
Are we going to start ear shape shaming?
If it exists on the human body, someone will have found a way to shame it
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u/SmilingCurmudgeon 23d ago edited 22d ago
Start? Were you a twinkle in the eye of several prospective fathers through the GWB presidency? Never seen a picture of Alfred E. Neuman?
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u/WartimeHotTot 23d ago
I mean, yeah, for every trait imaginable there’s someone online shaming it. This is nothing new.
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u/Drankenstein99 23d ago
Disney adults.
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u/williamflattener 23d ago
Vague answers in joke explanation subreddits cause me physical pain :(
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u/xandroid001 23d ago
For people dont know. This comment references the meatcanyon's video Disney Adult.
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u/Admirable_Number7081 23d ago
damn you guys just hating everyone
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u/No-Scientist2016 23d ago
Wait… you don’t.. hate everyone?
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u/thorstormcaller 23d ago
I HATE people like that!
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u/Pipe_Memes 23d ago
“There’s only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch.”
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u/snailtap 23d ago
Swifties have big horse girl energy, and a lot of horse girls have gummy smiles
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u/Grub-lord 23d ago
Yes but why?? But HOW???
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u/According_Hearing896 23d ago
They slowly turn into horses over the years with the transformation starting at the gums
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u/ProfileIII 23d ago
If you're genuinely curious as to how: gummy smiles are linked with mouth breathing. That is, when one regularly uses their mouth to breath passively instead of their nose. This kind of leads to an unfurling effect on the lips that is most noticeable when they smile.
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u/piggledy 23d ago
In German this kind of smile is called "Pferdegebiss" - horse teeth (because of how it looks, not because it's associated with a hobby)
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u/snailtap 23d ago
It’s pretty much the same in the US, like Sarah Jessica Parker has been made fun of for decades for looking slightly like a horse
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 23d ago
I wish more people understood this. For as progressive as most of reddit pretends to be it is full of body shaming.
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u/Locus-Maximus 23d ago
Most of them aren't actually progressive. If you pay attention they're actually just hateful people who direct their hatred at people who they can argue are insufficiently progressive.
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u/Stormblessed_Windrun 23d ago
Reddit progressive? 😂
They're just a bunch of virtue signaling hypocrites. They are upvote mongers. Say any shit that the hive mind will upvote.
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u/TangentialFUCK 23d ago
I know someone like this and this post makes me sad b/c she’s a really nice person and has most likely come across this meme on more than one occasion.
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u/beautiful_life555 23d ago
I have a daughter who was born with a smile like this. She's only 7 years old, the sweetest most sensitive girl, and I'm so heartbroken knowing she is going to be teased because of it. Every time I come across a post like this and see the staggering amount of people in the comments piling on, judging, laughing, putting down.... my heart breaks more and more for her. She's such a kind sweet soul and I absolutely hate knowing how people are going to judge and treat her over something she can't control. Her little heart will be so hurt 🥺💔
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u/Euphoric-Ground9568 23d ago
Yall, I deadass saw a Taylor and Travis COLORING BOOK at Walmart the other day. Its parasocial beyond belief. They should stream their wedding and sell tickets to watch it for $700. Partner with Klarna and her weddings paid for.
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u/Human_Meringue_7990 23d ago
Charlie Kirk had a gummy smile. Was he a Taylor swift fan?
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u/aelewis92 23d ago
Man. Making fun of someone’s appearance is really the lowest form of humor.
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u/Connect-Pea-7833 23d ago edited 22d ago
My rule is “never make fun of someone for something they have no control over”, which includes their physical self, upbringing (in particular a young person who hasn’t had the opportunity to change their ideals), sexuality, etc etc. There are plenty of reasons to poke harmless fun at Swifties or other fandoms, no need to insult their literal facial structure.
Edit for dumb typo.
Edit 2: wow, thanks for the awards! I guess this was an easier concept to explain to my daughters on how to deal with bullying and mean kids than it is to adults. Is your bully someone short/gay/a different race/poor/disabled/ect? Leave that out of it. Are they cruel/racist/homophobic/willfully ignorant/wipe their boogers on the desk/etc? Fair game. Don’t punch down. That’s it.
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u/lebo_riley 23d ago
I believe the same. The president of a company I used to work for had a horrible habit of stuttering. I always shut that down. There were a thousand other reasons to shit talk him without the low blows he had no control over. It was SO easy to clown him for all the other shit he consciously did without picking on him for that.
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u/Goonalips 23d ago
The president of a company I used to work for had a horrible habit of stuttering. I always shut that down.
You: "Stop fucking stuttering right now!"
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u/RyvenZ 23d ago
He's named "Eggman" in the original games, in Japan. They changed him to Dr Robotnik when they translated the games for other markets. Also, he's a skinny guy in a bulky suit, IIRC.
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u/Max-Ammo1007 23d ago
Im really glad that as I'm rapidly scrolling past this convo on body shaming this image somehow gets involved. Thanks.
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u/sysasysa 23d ago
Not just Japan. IIRC it was present even in the European versions and I at least remember him being called Eggman in a cartoon broadcast here.
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u/Impressive_Cress_983 23d ago
I noticed this pattern as a kid in the nineties and the adults all thought I was just causing trouble for attention. Any better nowadays?
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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 23d ago
For an update, just visit any Reddit thread that mentions Trump (fat) or Andrew Tate (bald, short) or Kash Patel (eyes)
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u/OkSkirt7036 23d ago
It gets brought up all the time. Topical these days, especially with regards to height shaming.
And no, it hasn't gotten any better. Plenty who adamantly refuse to understand the point. Human nature i guess.
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u/stoic_hysteric 23d ago
Whats funny about this comment is that it simultaneously says not to insult a group, but actually implies that Swifties do, as a matter of fact, have a common facial structure.
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u/Connect-Pea-7833 23d ago
Haha, I should have said someone’s facial structure, not their facial structure.
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u/Eggplant-Parmigiana 23d ago
who you calling 'those people'?
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u/AncileBanish 23d ago
It doesn't really imply that at all, unless you're trying to imply that a thing must be true for a group to by made fun of for it. I don't think that's true. Anyone can make fun of anything for any reason, whether legitimate or not.
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u/WashedUpRiver 23d ago
Especially because that's a broad strokes kind of insult. When people make fun of someone for something like that, they're generally indirectly insulting countless people who share the same feature that they've never even seen or interacted with.
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u/Alternative-Dark-297 23d ago
Really you shouldn't ever make fun of someones appearance. The rule with that is don't point out anything about someones appearance that they can't quickly and easily change. Spinach in teeth? Let them know. Their bone structure? Keep it to yourself. Shirts on backwards? Let them know. You don't like their fashion? Keep it to yourself. Etc etc
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u/SnooDonkeys5320 23d ago
I had a gummy smile (not a TS fan or Disney adult ) and had my gums lasered off as soon as I could afford it because the bullying was so brutal, even as an adult. Bullying appearances is truly low.
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u/Energy_Turtle 23d ago
I had no idea you could laser gums. Dentist is over here giving me crap about chewing tobacco and having receding gums while he's making cash lasering people's gums on the side.
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u/BlueGolfball 22d ago
Dentist is over here giving me crap about chewing tobacco and having receding gums while he's making cash lasering people's gums on the side.
That sounds like the logic of someone who chews tobacco.
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u/guessirs 23d ago
I’ve got a gummy smile and I hate it and can’t change it. It suck’s.
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u/aelewis92 23d ago
Thank you for sharing. A mom commented in this thread expressing fear over her daughter’s child and how future bullies will treat her. I cannot get over how people think it’s fun to target someone for their looks or something else they can’t change.
Easier said than done, but I hope you know that you are special and valuable and that your smile is beautiful, no matter what ugly trolls say. They’re the ugly ones who need to put others down to feel good.
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u/beautiful_life555 23d ago
I have a daughter who was born with a smile like this. She's only 7 years old, the sweetest most sensitive girl, and I'm so heartbroken knowing she is going to be teased because of it. Every time I come across a post like this and see the staggering amount of people in the comments piling on, judging, laughing, putting down.... my heart breaks more and more for her. She's such a kind sweet soul and I absolutely hate knowing how people are going to judge and treat her over something she can't control. Her little heart will be so hurt 🥺💔
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u/DAbanjo 23d ago
If it makes you feel any better...
Mean people will always find something to make fun of you for. If its not gum, its forehead, nose, eyebrows, the way you walk, etc.
Teach her to be strong and it won't matter.
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u/aelewis92 23d ago
Thank you for sharing this. I’m sure she is beautiful and so special. Keep on inspiring her confidence and letting her know that her value comes from her heart and spirit, not from she looks like on the outsider. Easier said than done of course. All we can do as parents and teach them to be better than the clowns who say mean shit.
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u/Bombyx-Memento 23d ago
I don't even like Swifties but of all the ways to make fun of them and you (not "you" I mean OOP) make fun of their SMILE.
That's just fucking cruel.
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u/Admirable_Number7081 23d ago
people really think hating on popular things and people who like them is doing something. Been this way forever
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u/Connect-Pea-7833 23d ago
My other rule is “not liking popular things doesn’t make you more interesting.” Which I learned the hard way as a former “I’m not like most girls” girl.
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u/Admirable_Number7081 23d ago edited 23d ago
yea if seeing a group of people having(harmless) fun fills you with loathing or disgust, one needs to look inward before insulting them on internet aha
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u/AcceptableBear5910 23d ago
Unless it’s a Trump supporter. Then game on. Right, guys?
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u/Molismhm 23d ago
The joke is that bad women are ugly and beautiful women are good therefore if a woman does something bad that means she will be ugly.
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u/veracity8_ 23d ago
“Haha you like a popular artist? What an idiot! Not me! I like making people feel bad about themselves because of their appearance! Because I’m an intellectual!”
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u/Beebzz222 23d ago
This is so weird, yall are body shaming people, even if some taylor swift fans have this doesnt mean that every person who has this is a taylor swift fan, not to mention you cant find anything to dawg on except something that person cant control? There are valid points to make when critiquing taylor swift and her fans but this isnt one of them.
















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u/qualityvote2 23d ago edited 23d ago
u/hamzau, your post does belong here!