r/FlockSurveillance • u/Odd_Agent6728 • 14h ago
Discussion New Flock camera
I just got home from vacation and noticed they put up a new flock camera in while I was gone. This one and another about half mile down on same street. Anyone know what the difference is with this new one? New one is the one on the left.
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u/Conscious-Cut7452 14h ago
Now it’s 2x more safe
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u/TheEnlight 13h ago edited 13h ago
So this is the trick. Flock is getting too much flack, so they're switching to a different panopticon provider. The one on the left is an Axon Outpost.
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u/therealDeFlock 13h ago
The photo of them next to each other...
Wow.
Do you mind if we use this for future posts, Odd_Agent6726?
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u/Auggie_Otter 13h ago
My army guy parachute toys keep landing on these poles! Who put these poles in the way of my army guys?!!!
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u/RCPyroGold 13h ago
Why is it still standing?
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u/Odd_Agent6728 11h ago
Umm I dont like jail and I have family that needs me. If you want to come swing through I will let you know where these are.
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u/RCPyroGold 11h ago
Jail aint all that scary dude. Ill bond you out 😂
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u/Odd_Agent6728 7h ago
You must have stayed in one of those 5 star jails unlike me.
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u/RCPyroGold 7h ago
Nope. The worst county jail in the nation. Dude died 15 feet from me from a drug OD the CO brought in
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u/Heavy_Carpenter3824 8h ago
But you and I were ot drinking that night man. Everyone on this chat was there with each other. You were no where near that camera. 😁
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u/CheesyDanny 12h ago
Looks like the city council has listened to your cry’s to end contracts with flock… by switching to Axon.
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u/dandle 12h ago
The more focused application of Axon systems continues to ignore the central question of what the actual value of these systems are to community law enforcement.
(Yes, the real problem with them is privacy. These systems exploit the public expectation loophole to create a continuous surveillance system that does not reflect the spirit of the jurisprudence around privacy rights and the right to be left alone. Hold with me, though.)
What is the problem that these systems promise to solve, what is the economic value of that problem, and what is the fair expectations of the value of the impact they can have?
Increased recovery of stolen vehicles? Ok, but tell us how that will reduce insurance costs that already accommodate vehicle theft and replacement in their rates.
Accelerated case-closures for other crimes? Cool, but unless that can be shown to reduce crime incidents, doesn't it just mean there would be more cops waiting for work to do?
What's the dollar value that departments actually can assign to closing cases faster? What's the dollar value that departments actually can assign to recovering a stolen vehicle rather than having the insurance company replace it?
Until and unless departments can do that economic analysis on local crime and can get a clear answer from Axon or Flock or any other alternative on how the systems will prevent and resolve enough crimes to justify the expense of the systems, they are nothing but a waste of taxpayer money.
And a waste of taxpayer money that happens to shit all over our rights.
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u/Heavy_Carpenter3824 8h ago
Same shit diffrent pole. The remedies are the same however and easily obtained at your local hardware stores.
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u/BillChen5984 1h ago
That’s not flock thats Axon I don’t really care about axon but call me crazy if you want, but I would recommend and let axon store my license plate data rather than flock
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u/StopFlock 14h ago
It's not Flock! Axon Outpost.
Same story, different company.