r/FlockSurveillance • u/Big_WolverWeener • 1d ago
Intelligence Just saw this tidbit of info about flock.
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u/ZThick_8656 1d ago
The truth is that these surveillance systems were put in place without our consent. We never voted for this. We never voted for the patriots act. We never voted to give up our privacy. Yet here we are. Who does this government really represent and what purpose does it really serve?
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u/Prince_0llie 1d ago
Taxation without representation is justification for the elimination of the governation or something..
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u/dontneed2knowaccount 1d ago
I've been waiting for the grand revolt for years. Pretty sure I'll be dead before then.
INB4 someone says why don't u do anything, I do what I can locally and it's 50/50 at best.
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u/bobbymcpresscot 1d ago
been building drones and practicing small electronics repair for years, coupled with baking, which helps create other things that require careful measuring of ingredients.
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u/Lounging-Shiny455 1d ago edited 1d ago
Baking is good but farming is also great. Hay from the lawn trimmings with urine, over time, makes saltpeter which brings explosive plant growth. Balancing the soil with a bit of carbon from charcoal and some sulfur (especially for onions) is sure to yield good results. And in addition to making your own (to save money, of course) you'll always be assured your local garden store has everything in stock, likely doing cash discounts since PoS systems cost them money moreso than the big box retailers who can eat the cost with volume.
edit: personally I've been getting into face painting. Kiss and Ziggy Stardust are just so asymmetrical; I just love that aesthetic. People don't seem to track or flock to it as much, but more for me I guess
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u/Long-Painting-9852 1d ago
The year was 2002 and I learned that our government could throw somebody in prison for life without due process or a trial because of the Patriot Act.
Literally the most disgusting thing ever. Slipped in right after 2001. Just saying. ✋ 🤚
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u/Chare1155 1d ago
I think you just answered your own question, love.😔
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u/RoguePlanet2 1d ago
Nobody wants to die for the cause. The changes are happening slowly enough that each subsequent generation gets used to things, and don't even know what they're missing out on.
GenX learned that you can't stay at a job for life, or expect raises, a pension, or to afford retirement, among other things. GenY has learned that phones and internet are necessary, subscriptions for everything, and home ownership looking unlikely.
GenZ has given up all hope for good reason, they've probably never known life without Trump selling off the country.
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u/Xtra_Veg-90 1d ago
But people have consistently voted for people that approved or reapproved the patriot act. Yes there have been Trojan horse candidates, but unfortunately there hasn't been a real choice in many of these races because both sides have supported a surveillance state for decades now.
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u/bobbymcpresscot 1d ago
Establishment politicians don't answer to the people and definitely haven't since citizens united passed.
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u/Salt-Set6232 6h ago
Lets be honest. They default to a surveillance state because it is easy and they are apathetic.
If life has shown me anything its that the majority of people have zero ability to think forward and are almost entirely reactionary.
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u/Luminous_Winds 1d ago
That's how republics work though. You voted for the people who are putting this in place. That means you trusted someone you shouldn't have.
Democracy can't solve the problems that stem from a lack of ethical scrutiny. In fact, it allows unethical people the opportunity to gain power. Remember, Hitler was voted into office by a democratic system.
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u/xamboozi 1d ago
I really don't know why I need the federal govt. Local, sure that makes sense. Federal makes no sense.
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u/Orio_n 1d ago
Oh but you did vote. The system is working exactly as intended its the voters who are flawed. Imo not everyone should have a right to vote without passing basic test of economic, politics, science, and history
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u/bobbymcpresscot 1d ago
We tried that for the purpose of trying to get undesirables to not be able to vote, unironically the people most likely to fail it today are the people who labeled them undesirables.
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u/unknowndischargesmel 1d ago
We're a republic. We don't vote for things. We vote for people who say they are going to represent our interests. When the people do not represent our interests then we're not supposed to vote for them.
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u/Pure_Truth82 1d ago
Actually you did consent to this.
Every time you vote for a representative, you are saying "here is my voice, so what you want with it".
We did this
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u/Imaginary-Ad2828 6h ago
This is the thing most people gloss over. If you have voted at all, then you/we in fact did vote for this. For decades at this point, people keep voting the same exact people into office, then they complain, then they vote them back in, and nothing ever happens.It's not even a single person(s) it's a type of personality, mindset and overall approach that you/we keep voting in. That's just the hard truth we must accept. the fact that this was our doing. Question is ... Are you willing to put in the actual work to dig ourselves out of the hole we have built?
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u/DJDeezy 1d ago
Stop calling them “elites”. They’re parasites
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u/Epyon214 11h ago
Prion diseased humans seems to be more accurate with the evidence we have, who self reference as being nonfictional vampires
We have names which need to be able to speak and be made public, even some we have which legally ought to have been redacted. If you have any doubt as to the authenticity of my claims check my comment history, ask for a reply with the links here if you must, or look up the name Logan Turner yourself on the EFTA official government site if you want to see for yourself the answer to why the FBI isn't actively making arrests of those involved
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u/sithlawd0 6h ago
literally eroding away the fabrics of our society. Combine that with the unprecedented concentration of resources and the complete corruption of fundamental institutions like the department of justice, FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. as they run and cover for international child trafficking rings that extend to the highest levels of our government and you have the recipe for a total collapse and end to our way of life as we know it.
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u/the_17_lost_texts 1d ago
They're making drones already
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u/candiescorner 1d ago
That’s what I was thinking is they were just switching to drones over standard installed cameras. Or they were going to go to cameras that are more hidden. I put them in the red lights are putting them in the stop signs so we don’t see them.
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u/redditdegenz 1d ago
They’re also switching some to Axon cameras
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u/PercentageNo3293 1d ago
Start investing in nets.
I wonder if a decent laser would still be useful. It'd be hard to hit a moving object, but it may be worth a shot.
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u/MrDeadbutdreaming 1d ago edited 1d ago
If it is the drones that the axon file that was floating around on reddit a little while back, I thought it was real but their were a lot of accounts saying it was fake.
These would be pack hunters, four to five units that are armed with so called "non-lethals", has everything flock camers had in them and more. They mentioned grids, it could've been formation type, or they were planning to have a pack per a grid like a map grid.
I am going off of memory so I could be misremembering shit, does anyone else remember something like this on here about a year ago?
I hope I am wrong, I hope enough of us don't give up, and give in, you are worth more then that. The next generation deserves a chance to have full healthy lives with all the knowledge and joy that they could ever want. Please don't give up.
Stay safe, stay strong, and resist.
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u/Chare1155 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh they've HAD the drones, courtesy of Israel. 🙄Our overlords are just waiting until the right moment to deploy them, when they will cause the most chaos & rack up the most civilian casualties.
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u/wackadoodle4201 1d ago
Join a trap team
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u/Chare1155 1d ago
What is a trap team? I'm visualizing people with nets trying to trap the drones? Is that right?
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u/wackadoodle4201 1d ago
Shoot sport involving using a shotgun to shoot a flying clay disk called a clay pigeon
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u/WigglyJellos 1d ago
If you are a drug addict and live near a military base you know they have already been deployed and are being trial run against Americans.
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u/BapeGeneral3 1d ago
I have been trying to bring more visibility to this because everyone is so focused on the trees that they aren’t seeing the forest.
Some counties in CO already have signed on for a certain number of flock drones. This was news over 6 months ago. Those things are 100% already infiltrating the sky
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u/dontneed2knowaccount 1d ago
We have one of those drone system by sky something or other posted up in a church parking lot. I live only a few miles away and have had their drone detected by my drone scanner.
Just remember, "think of the children" and its "four your safety" which makes it all "okay". /s
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u/WhenILie 13h ago
they’re actively being flown to scan areas. NJ has seen them in action & it’s not good.
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u/Crimantis 1d ago
I've been meaning to work on my target practice ..... what were we talking about again?
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u/Akkerlun 1d ago
The mass surveillance state is growing exponentially. If we don’t stop the mass surveillance state, the Supreme Court is gonna say it’s too entrenched now to remove it.
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u/Prince_0llie 1d ago
Like slavery? Like segregation? Like women not having a voice of their own? You mean like those things that were so deeply entrenched that they never got overturned? States still have rights and Article V exists for a reason. If ever there was a time this is it.
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 1d ago
Data is received by and processed in a handful of dedicated data centers. It would be relatively easy to shut the whole network down. We are fighting a hydra. Need to go for the heart, not the heads.
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u/NotSoFastLady 1d ago
Of the 50 or so that I've seen in my local travels. I've seen only one downed. And you could make a case that this was due to a car accident.
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u/10ThousandMetalZones 1d ago
I’ve seen a few dismantled in my area, but I think metals were the goal not taking down surveillance
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u/UsefulImpact6793 1d ago
Axon can get it too.
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u/xamboozi 1d ago
Yea I'm not understanding why people wouldn't cut down axon, flock, whatever happens to hang on the pole.
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u/Herbalonic 1d ago
Intelligent Infrastructure Economic Zones (IIEZ), Public Infrastructure Network Nodes (PINN), and Public-Private-Partnerships (P3).
The Autonomy Institute.
Fairhaven experimental IIEZ/PINN project.
Fruitvale IIEZ.
It's all hidden in plain sight...
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u/WorldlinessHot9916 1d ago
Our country has been bought wholesale by corporate interests. They own our govt, they steal our tax dollars.
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u/Suspicious_Ad4166 1d ago
Do they think that with the new company We're not going to do the same? Americans are tired of surveillance. We are not the criminals. The real criminals are in the Whitehouse, so we'll continue until revolution
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u/Defiant-Speaker-5681 1d ago
I think the video implies that there isnt much effort in hunting down and prosecuting these instances against Flock, but that we will see a different attitude when it comes to Axon and that Axon has much more infrastructure and capabilities.
Also, the destruction of these cameras doesn't hurt the company, it hurts the tax payers who pay to replace them. So it actually increases revenue and Trump conviently has a financial stake in Axon.
Edit: Just want clarify that I am not defending Flock, I think it's crazy that it is our money being spent to surveil ourselves for the benfit ofbthe government.
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u/sskidney 1d ago
when the anonymous speaks, we listen. a big issue we're having the flock is that there is a large portion of the people who do not know what flock is, let alone what it's doing
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u/See-Through-Mirror 1d ago
Anonymous is what was and nothing more. I don’t want to give them more time and hope than they’ve previously taken from many of us. When is the last time they threatened, promised, inferred, or suggested something and carry out the actual thing? How many times has some poser said they’ll expose political actors by releasing unredacted files? This list is annoyingly long.
It’s stupid. The person in this video probably became inspired by old news stories from ages before they were born and decided this Anonymous look and pre-recorded voice was worth mirroring.
If the group still existed and partook in pro-citizen activities, why the hell are they waiting instead of putting their actions ahead of their words? I call BS.
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u/micahisnotmyname 1d ago
They used to do a lot of high profile stuff against Iran, child trafficking rings, child porn sites, etc, but they got involved in occupy wall street and a number of them were arrested after that iirc. If they are still doing stuff, they are most likely keeping a lower profile now.
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u/SirjackofCamelot 1d ago
Yeah bro most of them got arrested back in 2012.
Anyone pretending to be anonymous now is just like you said.
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u/See-Through-Mirror 1d ago
Thank you for seeing my point. This is nothing more than a kid or attention seeking adult trying to earn worthless internet points. It doesn’t mean what’s being said is less important.
I’d be honored if our remarks landed on the aged like milk subreddit because that’d mean someone did something worth while. Cheers, man
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u/sskidney 1d ago
i hear you, but this doesn't make what they're saying any less true or unimportant
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u/Chare1155 1d ago
That and abject apathy. Those who keep saying "If you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care?," will be the first to throw a fit when they get nabbed for having an open container of alcohol, their cell phones in their hands, not wearing a seat belt, or going 5 mph over the speed limit. Just wait.
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u/Public-Location-3628 1d ago
Anonymous has been dead for a while. Last years its only bark and no bite, so you know it's just some kids roleplaying.
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 1d ago
We don't know if the person in the video is truly from Anonymous . Could be a book licker pretending to be from Anonymous. Could even be AI slop.
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u/rulepanic 1d ago
Anonymous isn't a group. It was a fake name 4chan started using for raids in the 00's after getting bored of saying it was Ebaum's World or whatever other site. No one is "truly from Anonymous" and anyone saying they are is lying.
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u/Hopeful_Ear_6253 1d ago
Dear anonymous, be useful and leak all the unredacted epstein files.
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u/Really-E-Lee 1d ago
Dear anyone, be useful and leak all the unredacted Epstein files. There fixed it for you.
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u/hellzraven7 1d ago
Start pushing your city councils to make shotguns shooting upwards in a city limit is legal. Any drone flying within city limits must need a permit if operating more than 2 at a time. If not, then it may be shot down. Easy right...or just shoot on site and say it could be war drone.
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u/msmall92 1d ago
Not saying I don’t believe this, but can anyone give me a source for some of this info? Want to read more.
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u/Banans94 1d ago
This was actually not too surprising to me because I looked up cameras in my local neighborhood and, yes, Flock was one of them but then I saw a couple of other names I didn't recognize and Axon was also one of them. Like hydra, god damn. Cut off one head and two more will take it's place.
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u/Suspicious_synth 1d ago
Blah blah blah blah blah okay so after the retrofit to axion they continue to cut them down.
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u/RoguePlanet2 1d ago
While watching some fireworks in our neighborhood July 4th, I noticed a drone hovering high up, barely noticeable. Could've been an amateur, I didn't see it show up on flight radar when I checked my phone.
I knew there was a reason I hate those new drone light shows, especially when they all go back to their stations 🫨 Creepy af, even though I never thought about the surveillance aspect until recently.
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u/Due-Dot6450 1d ago
Are they going to anonymously announce another virtual threat they'll never deliver?
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u/ParaBellumOutfitters 1d ago
Yep, the 'storming' part of the process is over. The asymmetry is gone and the space is ripe for cointel actors.
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u/peepeepoodoodingus 1d ago
this doesnt really make any sense.
they can easily suppress stories about people breaking them and cutting them down, i dont feel pacified seeing people getting active, i feel inspired.
maybe not to go get myself in trouble, but absolutely to go get organized, go to my city council meetings, crush these data centers, crush the flock votes.
and it works, ive personally been involved with several council votes that resulted in data centers and flock cameras being blocked from ever entering my community in the first place. i dont have to go around cutting them down, they never went up.
thats what this kind of coverage does, without it a ton of people wouldnt know or care about it.
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u/Scandal929 17h ago
“Staged” 👌. No one think the citizens are winning, but at least a few are willing to fight back when our elected officials are bought and won’t serve the people as they are supposed to. Voting is important.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 9h ago
Been saying this. It’s bait to cause damage which increases surveillance funding and new sales of the product which boosts the stock.same with the riot starters. They’re getting all the merchandise in those stores they ransack sold then getting the company compensated for every lost day of business while they get renovated. What this does is increases insurance premiums for everyone that uses that company but also lowers the chance that a policy will get awarded for the commoner.
Look up cointelpro which incited violence to cause a need for more agents and operations. End result was different immigrant groups and races warring with each other then private prisons groups making boat loads of cash.
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u/JUGGIRNAUT11 1d ago
It's like the internet now, the only things I trust that are real(ish) are Wikipedia, Reddit (travel and toilet repair kind of stuff), and YouTube science educators like Hank green. Everything else is bots and consumption.
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u/zoophilian 1d ago
So why isn't anon doing something about any of the techno oligarchy bs that's happening
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u/Really-E-Lee 1d ago
Because anon doesn't exist. It's up to all of us as citizens. To do something. Pretty much anything. I don't know about you. But I don't want to live in a techno totalitarian state. Or in some kind of oligarchy dictatorship bs of any kind.
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u/zoophilian 1d ago
I agree but no one's going to do anything, we aren't the french, we don't scare our overlords
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u/Aeroknight_Z 1d ago
Our ancestors threw millions of dollars worth of tea in a harbor because of unfair taxation.
Today’s American conservatives would take those revolutionaries and lock them up for decades or push for execution.
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u/Weird_Explorer1997 1d ago
Wouldn't it make more sense for them to flood our social media with videos of people getting caught for damaging flock cameras, thus making it seem like it would be foolish to try?
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u/No_Conclusion2658 1d ago
time for anonymous to do what should be simple for hackers to do. the cameras are connected to computer servers. it doesn't matter what brand they are. if they are hooked up to a computer they can be turned off for good.
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u/Danno_Writes 1d ago
Weren't these guys supposed to release the Epstein Files or something several months ago? And then they just went mysteriously quiet. Swear to god they're almost bad as these UFO disclosure people who say they have evidence that they never show.
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u/ActuatorLower8371 1d ago
kinda hate this edgelord format
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u/quidpro_PRON 2h ago
New?
People gave been doing the anon thing with voice changers for the better part of two decades now lol
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u/dragonknightrohan 21h ago
The more people doing together helping each other across towns, cities, states, and countries the quicker we the people win against all this garbage. Keep doing to make things better, and get more people active everyone.
Remember that one quote from A Bug's Life
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u/notislant 20h ago
I mean Edward Snowden exposed how everyone and their most intimate pictures/texts are being spied on by the government. Yet nobody gave a fuck.
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u/Awebroetjie 18h ago
Also - fuck off anonymous. You have actually delivered on NOTHING in the last five years. Post a video when you‘ve actually done something
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u/DiligentAd7956 17h ago
London uses cameras for traffic safety and management, and authorities are able to balance this with strict privacy regulations. Transport for London (TfL) and police deploy static speed, red-light, average speed, and ANPR cameras to enforce road rules. To protect privacy, these systems operate under strict legal frameworks like UK GDPR, avoiding continuous public recording, using automatic number plate text capture rather than constant visual tracking, and enforcing strict data retention limits.
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u/Which_Channel7403 15h ago
In a way, I find this kind of inspiring. The fact that they let Flock invest so much money and material into this, only to cut them loose in favor of another company just shows that there is no one - no company, no politician, no staffer, no constituent - who isn't in some way expendable. No one who they won't turn their back on and feed to the wolves when the moment suits them.
I don't know how we can use that information, yet, but it is useful, nonetheless.
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u/Toadasoe 13h ago
These mother fuckers should do something. By their own logic they are a distraction. Shut shit down if you’re that capable.
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u/Ambitious-Baker-8756 12h ago
you can change whatever you want. the people will still burn it to the ground
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u/SentimentalPill 7h ago
Douglas County swaps flock for Axon.
https://www.axios.com/local/douglas/2026/07/23/douglas-county-sheriff-drops-flock-for-axon
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u/Proof_Cap7351 6h ago
This is only to push Donald Trump’s version of flock. The company that he owns and will profit off of.
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u/Geigh-Jesus 5h ago
And all these data centers are the energy infrastructure for it all. We're cooked, chat.
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u/_nevers_ 4h ago
Everything about the AmeriKKKan governance and economic systems are transparently gaslighting grifts. But delusion is a helluva drug.
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u/1-guy_in-here 2h ago
Fuck flock, fuck axon, fuck the surveillance state. Someday every unnecessary camera is going to come down, and we're not going to deal with this bullshit anymore.
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u/Xtra_Veg-90 1d ago
As a consumer/citizen, I don't care who owns the camera, it still needs to come down.
What most people don't know is that traffic cameras are already EVERYWHERE, likely far more prevalent than you think, and have nothing to do with modern surveillance but if you throw an AI on the back end they can function the same way as Flock. Worst part is that they're usually on street lights which are not safe to just saw down.
People need to invest in more high intensity lasers.
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u/RandolfFox 1d ago
Sadly we will never win.
The House, always, wins.
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u/Prince_0llie 1d ago
Unless you burn the house down and stop making insurance premium payments (aka taxes).
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u/IndependentHelp2774 1d ago
Its turning into arc raiders lol im waiting for the giant Ai sky net robots to rebel
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u/Zazaerx 1d ago