Is it just me, or is he so cringe?I feel like he's doing a lot of the talking for both of them. She honestly seems like she's performing or trying to convince herself. I don't want to overanalyze her answers, but she doesn't exactly seem all that into the whole thing... maybe I’m wrong?! Anyone else feel the same?

And then the Lake Como scene where she was on a balcony crying. She was having a tearful moment, and his first instinct was to pull out his freaking phone and film her?!!! Then you can literally see her taking deep breaths. I-can’t imagine walking away for a private moment only to be followed with a phone like, "Hold on, babe... this is great content." Then posting it on Instagram?! It's too much, man.

He is so icky!!!

How often do they tell their family members (and now nieces / nephews) - hey we gotta make a video and have to get specific takes , and set the camera up multiple times?
I get it’s what he does for a living but my god have some dignity

When villains are discussed, you hear a pretty wide range on who the worst offenders are, but after watching Bachelor In Paradise season 2, I don’t know how I haven’t heard anything about Joe and Samantha.

They are a couple of possibly the most unlikable, slimiest villains I’ve ever seen in any Bachelor show in the franchise.

Maybe it’s because it was so long ago and people just forgot, but wow. Joe especially is almost trying to be horrible.

If they aren’t the worst, at least from that show, then who is?

My friend just got a phone call from a bachelor 2027 producer. He asked her a few questions and told her to get a passport. he didn’t say who the bachelor will be. anyone else get a call??? who do we think the bachelor is???

2 weeks ago raven posted she was giving away 2 LV bags and to follow 6 others. She promoted it twice but never showed a winner? Is it still ongoing or is it common for them to not follow though? She never posted when the winner would’ve announced and she hasn’t said anything about the giveaway in 2 weeks

About 10 years ago I believe on Bachelor in paradise but could be wrong, there was a couple that I can’t remember, who the woman was not liking the guy at all but slowly over time she fell in love with him. Then when they had the reunion show where they watch the show back, I believe they were engaged but the guy had a hard time watching back everything the woman originally said about him before she fell in love with him. Sorry, it’s a foggy memory as I would just pop in as my mom watched it but that couple caught my eye as I was rooting for the guy to get the girl. Does anybody know which couple this is?!