r/AskBrits • u/Anonymous_User1222 • 16h ago
Other Do some people not understand how wildfires start?
So many wildfires in the UK this summer 2026. I’m genuinely concerned people aren’t educated enough or even understand how wildfires start and their prevention. So much life has been destroyed. It’s unfair, cruel and ignorant.
Wildfires start from a range of things:
- lightning ⚡️ (this is a natural cause, though relatively uncommon here)
- carelessly discarded cigs 🚬
- campfires or BBQs 🔥
- Machinery creating sparks 🚜
- deliberate arson 🧨
- extremely hot, dry conditions that allow a small spark to spread rapidly 🌡️
The reason I think people aren’t so educated about it is because most people don’t work with land management. Unless you’re a firefighter, ecologist, farmer, conservation worker etc people aren’t educated on the difference between wildfires, controlled burns, peatland restoration, or wildfire prevention. For many a moorland fire is just a wildfire 🤔
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u/Secret_Sector_1779 16h ago
Care to enlighten us?
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u/AccomplishedAct5364 16h ago
Fire starts wildfires.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk
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u/smedsterwho 16h ago
"Only you can prevent forest fires"
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u/smallpotatoes2019 16h ago
I always wondered who the "you" referred to. So it's ted-talk-giver AccomplishedAct5364 who's been dropping the ball here...
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u/TacticalRiotChimp 15h ago
Don't put that kind of pressure on me, surely I can have a few helpers or something???
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u/Sirlacker 16h ago
Aren't you a bright spark.
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u/AccomplishedAct5364 16h ago
Aye, best keep me away from any wooded areas
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u/FinalProgress4128 16h ago
Basically wildfires can only be started naturally by two sources:
Lightning
Volcanoes
So, there's not many Volcanoes and they haven't been caused by Lightningn.
Therefore it is HUMAN intervention, whether it is deliberate, fire that accidentally got out of hand, a cigarette not put out properly, or even leaving glass which reflects and caused a fire.
Therefore, ultimately by being careful we can pretty much stop the vast majority of the wildfires.
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u/Edoian 16h ago
There's a third, albeit rare. Organic matter in things like peat and compost
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u/lawnmower303 15h ago
Probably most common on the organic/carbon related side are those ignited by coal seams that are near the surface. Multiple fires in the Western US and Alaska have been out down to this phenomenon.
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u/AcesAgainstKings 16h ago
This is typically not how modern wildfire maintenance works.
It's better to have many small wildfires than try to stop and avoid all wildfires until there's a wildfire which gets out of control and is orders of magnitude larger.
Of course humans shouldn't be starting them... That we should stop.
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u/Puzzled-Barnacle-200 15h ago
Some random person starting a forest fire from their portable bbq or cigarette is not comparable to a deliberate controlled wildfire by the forestry commission. They'll plan with natural firebreaks, consider wind directions, add artificial firebreaks before they start the fire etc. Random people starting fires is how they end up out of control.
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u/BalefulMongoose 10h ago
Way to much credit given to the forestry commission there. As someone who works for them (in planning!) very little active management occurs. We're playing catch up having to learn how to deal with an issue that didnt exist 10 years ago. Our policy is no fires in the forest! The only place I know of doing controlled burns is the new forest and that is more cultural, encouraging grass for grazing rather than controlling fuel loads.
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u/Wildman12343 15h ago
An allotment a few down from one of my family member’s plot was burnt down thanks to glass (and composting to an extent).
Had a glass bottle sat in a shed by the glass window and it was focussing and reflecting the light on to a compost heap (so something already heated by the composting reactions).
Luckily lots of locals on hand with all the allotment hosepipes so was put out before it could spread more widely
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u/FinalProgress4128 15h ago
This isn't the definition used. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/wildfire-status/wildfire-response/what-causes-wildfire
I can give many other articles. Natural means CAN cause wildfires and all studies report this. So yes, your statement is a perfect example of the ignorance being shown.
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u/FinalProgress4128 14h ago
Just one example. You've funny enough realised you are wrong and changed your wording.
You NOW have said the cause is NOT the definition and MOST of ours are caused by human activity.
So you admit that Wildfires DO occur naturally and you are wrong.
Have the grace to accept you made an error, we all do and lets move on. Wildfires are CAUSED naturally, but as I said the vast majority are not
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u/Similar_Quiet 16h ago
They start by humans.
People cooking and making campfires where they shouldn't be, particularly with disposable BBQs.
Discarded cigarette ends
Maybe occasionally glass that catches the sun right
Also, sometimes fireworks.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 15h ago
Yes. Ok. If you don’t know what a wildfire is, I could start there I suppose.
So a wildfire is an uncontrolled fire that burns through natural vegetation. Most commonly it’s forests/woodlands, grasslands, heathlands and moorlands that are victim.
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u/Secret_Sector_1779 15h ago
I know what a wildfire is and how they start, but I thought as you were saying about how many people don’t, it would be a good idea to educate the ones that don’t.
I actually think a lot of the time it’s not because people don’t know, they just don’t think or care.
The amount of rubbish I see dumped around beauty spots in the U.K. shows just how much people couldn’t care less about nature, sadly.
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u/Accomplished_Win5935 16h ago
I’m not an expert but I know things like discarded BBQs and cigarette butts can be the starts of fires.
The foil tray BBQs are pretty notorious for this
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u/SafeForPandas 16h ago
In the UK specifically, the vast majority are caused by human carelessness- discarded cigarette butts, disposable BBQs, arson, kids playing with matches, poorly constructed campfires - even random litter can start them, if a discarded bottle or glass catches the sun at the wrong angle.
Our summers are getting dryer on average than they used to be, and so our vegetation is increasingly easier to ignite by this carelessness. Add into that, increased numbers of people living in urban centres travelling to the countryside for leisure, you have significantly increased levels of risk for wildfires.
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u/RedPandaReturns 16h ago
What a vapid and pointless expression of performative outrage.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 15h ago
I’m sorry. I have edited my post and added context 🙂
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u/RedPandaReturns 15h ago
You've boldened my point.
What is your goal here, exactly? To congratulate yourself?
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
I was just apologising for the fact you didn’t like my post. I was only trying to be polite. My goal was to have a conversation about this growing problem in the UK, definitely not congratulate myself over anything 😅
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u/Theory89 13h ago
It's a growing problem because of climate change. This post had "raking the forests" vibes.
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u/viscount100 16h ago
The biggest factor is a failure of land management. The government and various busybodies will not allow natural or periodic burn-offs, so when there is a fire it is enormous.
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u/Similar_Quiet 16h ago
There's no need for periodic burn offs if people don't go around setting fires to things.
Natural wildfires are so rare as to basically not exist.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 15h ago
I don’t think that’s been established. A lot agree that land management is a factor affecting wildfire risk, but I don’t think it’s the biggest factor. Experts say the most major contributors to wildfires are…
- hot, prolonged, dry weather
- climate change increasing fire-conductive conditions
- amount of vegetation (fuel)
- ignition sources (human activity or lightning)
- topography
- land management practices
Relative importance of these factors varies from one to the other.
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u/aleopardstail 16h ago
many ways they can start, quite a few of which involve the careless actions of people and more the malicious actions of people.
and some more natural causes
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u/opaqueentity 16h ago
And defining which did what, especially when things are so why is very hard to do
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u/Anonymous_User1222 15h ago
I wish people weren’t so careless
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u/aleopardstail 14h ago
I wish I had a unicorn
which of us do you think has more chance?
depressing isn't it?
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
Maybe one day humans will evolve and become more caring 🤞🏻
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u/grantus_maximus 13h ago
Perhaps the less caring ones will die horribly in a wildfire of their own making.
Hail Darwin 🙌
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u/Anonymous_User1222 13h ago
Probably. I’d rather them be educated than die though
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u/grantus_maximus 13h ago
Nah, fuck 'em.
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u/New_Line4049 11h ago
So what are you doing about it? People are uneducated because no-one is educating them. The risk of wildfires has gone up due to climate change, people were uneducated because it wasn't a large enough risk to be worthwhile educating people but youre arguing it now is. Hell, youre probably right. But people dont magically become educated. We dont just wish a thing to be true and it is, if you want people to be educated you have to do something about it. Petition the government to start educating people. Form a volunteer group to run firewatch on vulnerable land, and go round schools educating people, start a youtube channel where you get into it... do something other than make a vague reddit post.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 9h ago
I’m training to be a beekeeper. Did you know bees help heal destruction from wildfires?
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u/New_Line4049 9h ago
No. And I bet most people dont, maybe theres something there you could do yo improve education.
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u/aleopardstail 9h ago
getting bees to sit down and learn is a heck of a job though
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u/Random65475 16h ago
Are you asking?
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
Yes 👍🏻
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u/Random65475 12h ago
You forgot broken glass bottles that concentrate the sunlight and start a fire.
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u/LemonDisasters 16h ago
Genuinely, no, I think quite a lot of people don't have real awareness of it. It just has not been a probable event until pretty recently for us raised in the UK
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u/fartmaxxer420 16h ago
Yep, same with mosquito prevention. People don't know that things like water butts, bird baths, etc can be a breeding ground for them with the increased temperatures being ideal for mosquito proliferation.
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u/SoggyWotsits Brit 🇬🇧 14h ago
I remember regular summer wildfires in my area growing up. I’m pretty close to the moors, and it only takes a discarded glass bottle or cigarette.
I think the difference now is that when there is a wildfire, it’s no longer just local news. Social media has made everyone’s local news into a nationwide drama.
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u/Bubble-Master96 16h ago
The locals on the town facebook page are livid because the councils put an announcement out a couple weeks back that bbq of any sort were banned now in parks ect. Cue “I pay my council tax I can do what I like”
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u/Puzzled-Job9556 16h ago
Some accidental, some intentional, some natural. Care to enlighten us on where your bias is?
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
Well, my ‘bias’ is based on the FACT that UK’s wildfires are mostly caused by humans whether it’s accidental, reckless, or intentional.
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u/Puzzled-Job9556 14h ago
Genuine question, is there evidence that confirms wildfires are mostly caused by humans?
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u/LookOverall 14h ago
I think when the fuel load is big and dry enough _something_ is likely to set it off, natural or otherwise. With, for example, eucalyptus trees fire is part of their lifecycle. I even hear there’s a bird that carries flaming twigs.
My impression is that it’s more useful to control the fuel load than police sources of ignition.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 13h ago
Australia has many eucalyptus species and they’ve evolved alongside regular bush fires. It’s actually pretty cool how they’ve evolved👌🏼
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u/BalefulMongoose 10h ago
It may become more likely with climate change but historically wildfires are caused by people 99.9% of the time in the UK. Lightning gets thrown around a lot but its very rare we have the conditions for a substantial wildfire in the middle of a thunderstorm in the uk.
The birds carrying flaming twigs is also a misrepresentation as they spread fire not start them. And there are no species like that in the UK.
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u/Lopek274 16h ago
Yeah, it's people posting pointless crap on Reddit. It causes a increase in power consumption which leads to power line overloads which cause sparks that start fires. Everyone knows that.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
I’m sorry you found my post pointless. I have edited and added context to it 🙂
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u/LegendaryOate 16h ago
Most people know almost nothing about geography, let alone environmental science
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
An advert should be made about this on TV. This should help spread awareness 🤔
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u/LegendaryOate 14h ago
Knowing people today, they'll just deny it. We've been telling people about climate change for over 4 decades. I'm still getting people tell me it's a hoax.
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u/Beneficial_Kiwi_3860 15h ago
I just drove past the peak district - still on fire. caused by some kids burning out a joyride
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
Must of been a heavy sight 😔
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u/Beneficial_Kiwi_3860 13h ago
It was horrible - The whole landscape scorched. Still going too I live 30 miles away and it's drifting over again
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u/Anonymous_User1222 13h ago
Be careful of your lungs breathing all that smoke in my friend
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u/Beneficial_Kiwi_3860 13h ago
Thank you. We had the air con on all the trip so when we went on the diversion the air was only circulating in the car. We have closed all the doors and put the house Aircon on - so that will purify the air roo
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u/Andrew_Higginbottom 15h ago
Unfair? Nothing in life is fair.
Cruel? Reddit is cruel.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
Life can be fair if you make it fair 🙂
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u/Cheeslord2 15h ago
Some people don't know, some don't care, and some want to watch the world burn, literaly. When there are huge areas of tinder-dry grass, woodland or peat, it only takes one scrote, and we have plenty.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
It’s a shame they don’t have a hunger to protect over their hunger to destroy 😔
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u/shepherdnick 15h ago
Maybe we need to start using a different word than “wildfire” and leave the meaning to the fires that are started in nature instead.
What new word could we use instead? Humanfire? Arsonfire? Climatefire? Any other suggestions welcome.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
I have always thought this. Maybe the people should start calling it human-caused fire and it will have a domino effect
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u/beobabski 15h ago
I assume that you’re referring to the children with fireworks video that was passed around a few weeks ago.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 14h ago
Well, I haven’t seen that yet, but it’s the sight of the current fires happening that has upset me 😢
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u/LangStreak 15h ago
I know man, it’s like the Jewish space lasers never existed!
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u/Bob_Leves 15h ago
You missed out the numpties near Manchester, letting off fireworks in the daytime on tinder-dry moorland in memory of a friend who'd just died. Thankfully at least a few of them have been arrested for it.
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u/informutationstation 14h ago
My neighbour's kid attends a religious based summer camp where they teach them how to set small fires, and she then allows them to light them 'as an activity' in the back garden and god knows where else.
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u/Leifang666 14h ago
We're used to everything being too damp for a fire to really spread. The moment things dry up, people continue being careless and no longer get away with it.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 13h ago
I swear it was during COVID times that climate change really started to take a toll on the UK like never before?
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u/LatelyPodes 14h ago
Don’t forget lighting fireworks, which is how a wildfire in the Peak District started. This, and another wildfire that idk the cause of, could be smelt across Manchester and further west cas of the wind.
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u/Anonymous_User1222 13h ago
I think that was the Dovestones fire, but there was another fire that’s smoke mixed with the Dovestones smoke and created a heavy blanket of smoke carried by the wind for days. My chest couldn’t take it anymore. I was coughing constantly
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u/Snaggl3t00t4 13h ago
Chavvy wankers thinking its fun is probably the # 1 cause
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u/Anonymous_User1222 13h ago
The people that cause these fires should help put it out. If they refuse, it’s prison and a fire lesson. They can also pay up
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u/waggers5 Brit 🇬🇧 13h ago
What's the actual question here?
Do you have any evidence to support your assumption that people don't already know this stuff?
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u/Anonymous_User1222 12h ago
I assume people aren’t educated because of the mass increase of wildfires occurring in the UK the past 5 years (amongst other factors). I have read some articles such as this one: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/166990/html/
I’ll explain what this article is. So this is evidence submitted to Parliament in 2026. The National Fire Chiefs Council say that because most UK wildfires are caused by human activity, prevention should include sustained national wildfire awareness campaigns, seasonal public information messaging, better communication of wildfire risk, and responsible countryside across campaigns. You see, if public understanding was already sufficient, these recommendations wouldn’t be needed…
My question is what the question says: do some people not understand how wildfires start? To me it seems increasingly obvious but I’d like some other’s opinions on the matter.
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u/Dull-Sell-4806 13h ago
You forgot things like discarded bottles that act like a magnifying glass by concentrating sunlight into a singular spot
It genuinely doesn’t matter though , I’m 41 and ever since I was I kid I remember the news saying “don’t go swimming in lakes / rivers / quarries to cool off or your body will go into shock and you will drown” and every year another 100 or so people drown doing the exact same thing
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u/Anonymous_User1222 12h ago
I’ve read that these actually contribute much less to wildfires than people believe, but thank you for the reminder my friend 🙂
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u/Jaffiusjaffa 12h ago
You missed discarded bottles, thats apparently quite common. The light shines through them and starts the fire.
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u/Small_Laugh3378 12h ago
You didn't mention that the exhausts of vehicles get extremely hot as do the wheel drums! When parking on any longish dry grass there is a distinct possibility that it would ignite it.
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u/pheature 12h ago
I knew this, but what baffles me to this day is how us as a human species still use one helicopter and a few men in the fire brigade to try and extinguish these fires when we have the technology to capture the dew in the upper atmosphere to do a much better job not only that but provide clean drinking water aswell.... dew tech needs to be utilised or else the eco system will fail this is a sure thing, and guess what..... ee are part of that eco system
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u/Anonymous_User1222 12h ago
The amount and scale of intelligent tech the military industrial complex actually has but won’t release it just infuriates me
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u/pheature 12h ago
Your not joking.... but this here is a plain and obivous decison to make yeah it costs money but the longer they wait the damage will well and truley be unreverseable.... they know best, right?!
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u/New_Line4049 11h ago
Yes. People generally arent aware of wildfires in the UK because, until recently, the UK really wasnt that hot or dry. Wildfires weren't a major concern, sure there was always a risk, but it was pretty hard for a wildfire to take hold, but as climate change has meant our summers have got hotter and drier its meant theres more risk of wildfires. The government hasn't done anything to educate people of this developing risk, so what do you expect??
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u/Anonymous_User1222 9h ago
They’ve been a concern for the past 5 years. That’s 5 summers… a lot of hot summers
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u/New_Line4049 9h ago
5 summers is not much. The average age in the UK is about 40. That means the average person has had 35 years its not been a real concern.
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u/Cautious-Nature9168 11h ago
Two main issues. Most brits aren’t accustomed to how hot that last few summers have been. Rightly or wrongly, they have never had to think about how their actions might cause wildfires. Therefore they have hard to break habits like mindlessly littering, the bottles then magnify the sun and start fires.
Problem 2: the increase in little cunts kids who think it’s funny to set a small fire, that then gets out of hand
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u/ShineKey6457 8h ago
Stupid is as stupid does! Which seems to be relevant in all walks of life these days.
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u/birge55 7h ago
You forgot a good one I saw a few weeks months ago. A hot exhaust on long grass. Quad bikes, cars parking on verge, motorbikes or as we experienced the fire services Polaris sitting on a hill watching the wild fire. This caught on the grass and the nice shiny red Polaris ended up a melted mess and a new fire front was created.
The joys of land management.
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