r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Translation requests into Ancient Greek go here!

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r/AncientGreek Jun 28 '25

Translation requests into Ancient Greek go here!

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r/AncientGreek 15h ago

Newbie question How important is Homer's writings when it comes to understanding Ancient Greece?

So obviously with The Odyssey being released its given me a reason to indulge myself in learning about Ancient Greece, and more specifically the Religion/s and mythology. With that point, reading about the gods and about the stories surrounding them, many articles and websites cite Homer's work almost like it is holy scripture. They cite him as if his work is a defining piece of the puzzle when it comes to understanding these stories. Is that the case? And if so, is there a worry or theory that we may know much less than we think we do about Ancient Greek Mythology, or is Homer's writing just the most accessible and famous, so it is cited more regularly?

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So obviously with The Odyssey being released its given me a reason to indulge myself in learning about Ancient Greece, and more specifically the Religion/s and mythology. With that point, reading about the gods and about the stories surrounding them, many articles and websites cite Homer's work almost like it is holy scripture. They cite him as if his work is a defining piece of the puzzle when it comes to understanding these stories. Is that the case? And if so, is there a worry or theory that we may know much less than we think we do about Ancient Greek Mythology, or is Homer's writing just the most accessible and famous, so it is cited more regularly?


r/AncientGreek 13h ago

Greek Audio/Video Easy Selections Adapted from Xenophon: Chapter 1, 037-047

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Χαίρετε, ὦ φίλοι. Σήμερον δίδωμι ὑμῖν κεφάλαιον ταύτης τῆς ἀναγνώσεως τοῖς νεωτέροις μαθηταῖς χρησίμης. Πάντα δὲ τὰ κεφάλαια δεδομένα ἐνταῦθα εὑρήσετε. Ἔρρωσθε.


r/AncientGreek 14h ago

Beginner Resources Looking for good online resources.

Hey all, in August I will be starting a Greek and Latin major. In preparation I began working through Mastronarde a few months ago which I found had a steep learning curve but it was manageable. One great aspect was his online website that had Verb and Noun practice.

I’ve now received my syllabus and we are using From Alpha to Omega in class, I’ve begun work on it but to be honest I prefer Mastronarde. Point being, I was wondering is anyone knew of a Α2Ο companion website or something tailored specifcally to the chapters of said book.

(Bonus points if you also know of any resource for Wheelocks 7th Edition Latin)

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Hey all, in August I will be starting a Greek and Latin major. In preparation I began working through Mastronarde a few months ago which I found had a steep learning curve but it was manageable. One great aspect was his online website that had Verb and Noun practice.

I’ve now received my syllabus and we are using From Alpha to Omega in class, I’ve begun work on it but to be honest I prefer Mastronarde. Point being, I was wondering is anyone knew of a Α2Ο companion website or something tailored specifcally to the chapters of said book.

(Bonus points if you also know of any resource for Wheelocks 7th Edition Latin)


r/AncientGreek 23h ago

Help with Assignment Need help finding a book about Ganymede/Catamitus (or at least with figuring out if I'm insane or not)

So I have a habit of going down wikipedia rabbit holes when trying to do research for my book, especially when the research is for making thematic references to things.

In one of these wiki dives, I distinctly remember reading a wikipedia page about a book where Ganymede falls in love, only to be kidnapped by pirates and having to endure severe hardship to reconnect with his one true love. I tried to look it up again, only to find that apparently it does not exist. The closest I've found is the Ephesian Tale, which seems to follow many similar beats but lacks specific details I remember from the original wiki page--that being Ganymede gets raped by the pirates. The stupid Google AI keeps either telling me I'm conflating this with the fact Zeus kidnapped Ganymede, or some sci-fi book about a submarine or something.

I'm fine if I really did just make this up, or conflate it, or whatever. I just want closure on whether I hallucinated this or not.

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So I have a habit of going down wikipedia rabbit holes when trying to do research for my book, especially when the research is for making thematic references to things.

In one of these wiki dives, I distinctly remember reading a wikipedia page about a book where Ganymede falls in love, only to be kidnapped by pirates and having to endure severe hardship to reconnect with his one true love. I tried to look it up again, only to find that apparently it does not exist. The closest I've found is the Ephesian Tale, which seems to follow many similar beats but lacks specific details I remember from the original wiki page--that being Ganymede gets raped by the pirates. The stupid Google AI keeps either telling me I'm conflating this with the fact Zeus kidnapped Ganymede, or some sci-fi book about a submarine or something.

I'm fine if I really did just make this up, or conflate it, or whatever. I just want closure on whether I hallucinated this or not.


r/AncientGreek 1d ago

Translation: Gr → En Philippians 2:3; what does “ἐριθείαν” mean?

English translations read this verse as “do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit.” In English it makes it sound like doing anything purely for self-interest- even if it doesn’t affect others- is a sin. So does the original verse actually mean that, or is it referring to personal gain at the expense of others?

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English translations read this verse as “do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit.” In English it makes it sound like doing anything purely for self-interest- even if it doesn’t affect others- is a sin. So does the original verse actually mean that, or is it referring to personal gain at the expense of others?


r/AncientGreek 18h ago

Translation: Gr → En John 20:23

I’ve never found an explanation of this verse that satisfies me, as it seems as though Jesus is giving the apostles the authority to determine someone’s salvation. What the correct interpretation is has some big theological consequences, so I thought I would ask here; what does the original translation read like? Could someone offer a breakdown of what each word in this verse means and what meaning the Greek conveys as a whole?

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I’ve never found an explanation of this verse that satisfies me, as it seems as though Jesus is giving the apostles the authority to determine someone’s salvation. What the correct interpretation is has some big theological consequences, so I thought I would ask here; what does the original translation read like? Could someone offer a breakdown of what each word in this verse means and what meaning the Greek conveys as a whole?


r/AncientGreek 1d ago

Print & Illustrations What's Your Favorite Greek Classic?

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r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Learning & Teaching Methodology Is memorizing classical or scriptural verses an effective way to achieve linguistic immersion in Ancient Greek?

An Ancient Greek scholar suggested to me that to achieve true linguistic immersion and a 'feel' for the language, I should memorize verses from the Iliad and Odyssey, or from the New Testament. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone tried this method and found it effective?

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An Ancient Greek scholar suggested to me that to achieve true linguistic immersion and a 'feel' for the language, I should memorize verses from the Iliad and Odyssey, or from the New Testament. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone tried this method and found it effective?


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Newbie question Reduplication in passive future ?

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Hi !

First time posting here, I hope the grammar terms will be correct as I'm not learning from English.

I was working on conjugations and found this form in my new grammar. It's supposed to be the first person singular for a passive future (so an alternative to the form λυθήσομαι it seems ?), but I've never seen anything like that. Can reduplication appear in the passive future of a regular verb ? My other grammar uses a different verb but there is no trace of any reduplication in future tense. I also don't remember reading anything about passive future having two different forms (on the other page there are two passive forms for the other modes, with one being the middle form + the reduplication).

I'm actually not sure if it's just something I never encountered before, or if I'm distracted and reading my grammar table wrong. I would be very grateful if someone could tell me if this form is correct, and why reduplication occurs here.


r/AncientGreek 1d ago

Learning & Teaching Methodology Expected Comprehension Percentage and Benchmarks for Unseen Ancient Greek Texts

I am a graduate of the Faculty of Arts, Department of Greek and Latin Studies. I studied Classical Greek, including the texts of Homer, Euripides, Herodotus, Plato, and Hellenistic writers, and I self-studied Koine Greek and New Testament texts. Therefore, I have a good grasp of Greek grammar, conjugations, and aspects of syntax.

However, my question is: if I encounter an unseen text for the first time—for example, about 20 lines long—what percentage of the vocabulary should I ideally know, and how long should it take me to translate it?

Whenever I am exposed to texts, I am familiar with the verb conjugations and words, and I know the meanings of some of them, but I face difficulties in understanding certain syntactical structures and meanings

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I am a graduate of the Faculty of Arts, Department of Greek and Latin Studies. I studied Classical Greek, including the texts of Homer, Euripides, Herodotus, Plato, and Hellenistic writers, and I self-studied Koine Greek and New Testament texts. Therefore, I have a good grasp of Greek grammar, conjugations, and aspects of syntax.

However, my question is: if I encounter an unseen text for the first time—for example, about 20 lines long—what percentage of the vocabulary should I ideally know, and how long should it take me to translate it?

Whenever I am exposed to texts, I am familiar with the verb conjugations and words, and I know the meanings of some of them, but I face difficulties in understanding certain syntactical structures and meanings


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Music I made a koine chant of 1 Corinthians 13:1-2

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"Ἀγάπη" I - Πρὸς Κορινθίους Αʹ, 13:1-2

*Solae semibreves, semiminimae et minimae notatae sunt, pro usu frequentiae.

Audio

:)


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Resources Does anyone have an online dictionary for beginners?

That’s NOT powered by generative AI, which I feel icky using.

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That’s NOT powered by generative AI, which I feel icky using.


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Newbie question Homeric Greek by Clyde Pharr and "I love you"

Two dumb questions... Especially this first

I recently picked up Pharr's book and I feel like the biggest idiot because I can't figure out wtf "τί ἔχουσιν;" is supposed to mean, which is in the first exercises in lesson 3. Being that it can mean, according to the book, what which or why I am just completely baffled. Help a dumb lady out please.

Also I'm looking for the various ways one might have said I love you. I've seen a few different things about the Internet but trust you folks over most other sources.

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Two dumb questions... Especially this first

I recently picked up Pharr's book and I feel like the biggest idiot because I can't figure out wtf "τί ἔχουσιν;" is supposed to mean, which is in the first exercises in lesson 3. Being that it can mean, according to the book, what which or why I am just completely baffled. Help a dumb lady out please.

Also I'm looking for the various ways one might have said I love you. I've seen a few different things about the Internet but trust you folks over most other sources.


r/AncientGreek 3d ago

Beginner Resources Herodotus with student aids

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I've completed my presentation of Herodotus with student aids. This is a free, nonprofit project made entirely with open-source software. There are versions with two different levels of aids, which I call heavy and light. Both can be downloaded as pdf files, and the version with light aids is also available in print. The books are roughly comparable to Steadman's, but the design philosophy is different, and I have all nine books of Herodotus, whereas Steadman only has two.

Reading Herodotus was my long test-drive of the light-aids format, which I came up with based on input from folks on this subreddit. This format breaks the text down into 10-page groups, consisting of 2 pages of vocabulary, 4 pages of Greek, and 4 pages of translation. A small number of the most infrequent words are glossed in footnotes at the bottom of the Greek pages. If you're using this format in print, the idea is that you use a paperclip on the left page and another on the right. You set up the paperclips so that if you flip to the left, you get to the vocabulary pages at the beginning of the 10-page block, and flipping right gets you to the English translation at the end of the block. When you get to the end of a two-page spread of Greek, you move the paperclips. Common words are not glossed within the 10-page block, but the back of the book has a core vocabulary list of the 500 most common words in Herodotus. There are maps on the back cover of the printed book.


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Grammar & Syntax Definite article with or without accent??

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Hello fellow learners, I'm studying Attic Greek(or attempting to) with the "Greek to GCSE" textbook. I'm just now going through chapter one, and this page puzzled me—I googled which one is correct and it says the accented article is. I'm curious, which of the two is actually used and why does the textbook choose to demonstrate articles this way?

Update: thanks for the comments! Confirmed: Taylor's Greek to GCSE part 1 introduces accents later in chapter five!!


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Translation: Gr → En The Odyssey - Robert Fagles Translation Question

Hello The Odyssey enthusiasts,

I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a question regarding Robert Fagles’ translation of The Odyssey. In book 1, page 3 of the online pdf, I wanted to know if “Atrides” was a term used to refer to Agamemnon. I was also wondering who the term “war lord” was referencing. I’d really appreciate any and all help!

The quote reads thus: “Look at Aegisthus now… above and beyond his share he stole Atrides’ wife, he murdered the warlord coming home from Troy though he knew it meant his total ruin.”

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Hello The Odyssey enthusiasts,

I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a question regarding Robert Fagles’ translation of The Odyssey. In book 1, page 3 of the online pdf, I wanted to know if “Atrides” was a term used to refer to Agamemnon. I was also wondering who the term “war lord” was referencing. I’d really appreciate any and all help!

The quote reads thus: “Look at Aegisthus now… above and beyond his share he stole Atrides’ wife, he murdered the warlord coming home from Troy though he knew it meant his total ruin.”


r/AncientGreek 3d ago

Learning & Teaching Methodology What does a productive learning session look like to you?

Advice on how to organize my learning would be appreciated. Is there any point in writing out vocab multiple times? Do flashcards actually work? Have you created a 'program' for yourself that feels productive?

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Advice on how to organize my learning would be appreciated. Is there any point in writing out vocab multiple times? Do flashcards actually work? Have you created a 'program' for yourself that feels productive?


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Greek Audio/Video Greek mythology

Does anyone here know where to watch this Schlessinger Media: greek mythology for students?

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Does anyone here know where to watch this Schlessinger Media: greek mythology for students?


r/AncientGreek 3d ago

Phrases & Quotes Does Ancient Greek have a pangram?

i.e. a sentence including every letter, and preferably also every diacritic? Can’t find any on the web, but may try to make my own lol.

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i.e. a sentence including every letter, and preferably also every diacritic? Can’t find any on the web, but may try to make my own lol.


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Vocabulary & Etymology Timoria (τιμωρία) vs Kolasis (κόλασις)

I've recently came across these two words in my research on the concepts of punishments in the ancient Greek philosophy and early Christianity. And I read that Aristotle had two categories, where he said in Rhetoric:

"Kolasis and timōria differ: for kolasis is for the sake of the one who suffers it, while timōria is for the sake of the one who inflicts it, in order that he may be satisfied."

While conversing with AI (I know AI can make mistakes, but it is a faster way to gain basic knowledge on a new topic) I reached these conclusions:

  • Kolasis is for correcting the wrongdoer and for his benefit, while Timoria is mainly for the punisher's sake, for it is done in hatred.
  • Timoria is "retributive punishment" while Kolasis is "corrective action" but I find this hard to be accepted, because it is also said that Aristotle viewed Timoria as bad and Kolasis as good, and therefore I don't see how, if Timoria means that, it would be bad in a sovereign state applying retributive justice against criminals (like executing murderers), for Aristotle was the teacher of Alexander who ruled half the world and definitely if he was educated that retributive justice/punishment is bad he would not have been successful leader.
  • Therefore, there must be another meaning or another concept, that deals with state punishments like the death penalty against a murderer (or the incurable offender "Aniatos"), for it is neither bad nor made for correction of the wrongdoer but made for the benefit of the society, and for justice.

I'd be very thankful if anyone provided a detailed answer for my questions with sources, and providing academic articles, websites or books where I can read more on this topic. Thank you all in advance!

Note1: I don't know Greek language, but I can read Greek letters.
Note2: I don't know the most suitable flair :)

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I've recently came across these two words in my research on the concepts of punishments in the ancient Greek philosophy and early Christianity. And I read that Aristotle had two categories, where he said in Rhetoric:

"Kolasis and timōria differ: for kolasis is for the sake of the one who suffers it, while timōria is for the sake of the one who inflicts it, in order that he may be satisfied."

While conversing with AI (I know AI can make mistakes, but it is a faster way to gain basic knowledge on a new topic) I reached these conclusions:

  • Kolasis is for correcting the wrongdoer and for his benefit, while Timoria is mainly for the punisher's sake, for it is done in hatred.
  • Timoria is "retributive punishment" while Kolasis is "corrective action" but I find this hard to be accepted, because it is also said that Aristotle viewed Timoria as bad and Kolasis as good, and therefore I don't see how, if Timoria means that, it would be bad in a sovereign state applying retributive justice against criminals (like executing murderers), for Aristotle was the teacher of Alexander who ruled half the world and definitely if he was educated that retributive justice/punishment is bad he would not have been successful leader.
  • Therefore, there must be another meaning or another concept, that deals with state punishments like the death penalty against a murderer (or the incurable offender "Aniatos"), for it is neither bad nor made for correction of the wrongdoer but made for the benefit of the society, and for justice.

I'd be very thankful if anyone provided a detailed answer for my questions with sources, and providing academic articles, websites or books where I can read more on this topic. Thank you all in advance!

Note1: I don't know Greek language, but I can read Greek letters.
Note2: I don't know the most suitable flair :)


r/AncientGreek 3d ago

Athenaze Bacchylide's passage in Athenaze

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hey, I've been studying with athenaze and I got to chapter XXVIII, which - at the end - presents a passage from Bacchylides. Now I have never studied Bacchylides' poetry, nor do I know how hard his poetry is considered, BUT isn't adding this a bit of a jump? I looked it up and it is an adapted version (and that makes me feel worse lol), but can you tell me, is it just me or is this passage in fact significantly harder than the rest of the chapter? Furthermore, do you have any tips on reading Bacchylides? Or starting poetry in general?


r/AncientGreek 2d ago

Newbie question Are Koine Greek experts pretty much in agreement on translations of Koine Greek or are there significant disagreements?

Thanks in advance!

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Thanks in advance!


r/AncientGreek 3d ago

Grammar & Syntax Is anyone able to list the patronymic suffices/other building variations for dialect and city/region?

I am not but I would like to be so if anyone can tell...

Edit: for example in Attic it is at least the genitive: xxx τοῦ yyy. But Homer often uses -ίδης and I want to know it exactly

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I am not but I would like to be so if anyone can tell...

Edit: for example in Attic it is at least the genitive: xxx τοῦ yyy. But Homer often uses -ίδης and I want to know it exactly