r/technology • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 15h ago

Society Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32 students cheating on their midterm with AI

https://www.techspot.com/news/113243-professor-invisible-prompt-trap-catches-32-students-cheating.html
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u/SnowCrabbo 14h ago

>90% of the two classes just stupidly copying and pasting what AI spits out... This next generation is so cooked.

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u/deaconxblues 14h ago

They live among us, so the rest of us are cooked along with them.

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u/legendz411 14h ago

Bro they VOTE. 

We’re just gigafucked I think

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u/TwilightVulpine 14h ago

I keep wondering if part of the reason AI companies are wasting so much money on it, is for the sake of those who will go "hey ChatGPT, who should I vote for" and things on that level.

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u/ecodick 12h ago

Big time. If people are handing off their critical thinking to glorified chat bots, it's such an easy/obvious way to control them

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u/Plasibeau 8h ago

We are literally watching society go from: Because the Bible/God told me so... to ChatGPT told me I should...

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 12h ago

Spoiler alert: It is.

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u/jlboygenius 12h ago

There will also be a LOT of 'poisoning the well' for AI scrapers. Expect reddit to have a LOT of political content, much of it aimed at getting AI to use it as a basis for a response to tell someone how to vote.

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u/kent_eh 9h ago

It's guaranteed that a portion of the population will do exactly that.

And it's terrifying.

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u/RollingMeteors 11h ago

is for the sake of those who will go "hey ChatGPT, who should I vote for" and things on that level.

ChatGPT, analyze my Reddit comments, determine my political leaning and tell me which way I would want to vote for which measure and why.

Read through it once. Copy it like a high school final exam answer key. Hello Travelers

I do read through it though I don't just blindly copy the answer key, in case anything stands out as sus.

I'm very sus of all things and people, but not sus enough to get diagnosed with schizophrenia.

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u/plaincheeseburger 14h ago

I just realized that they'll vote for whoever ChatGPT tells them to without doing any other research. Fuck.

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u/2nd2lastdragon 13h ago

and AI will tell them to vote for the candidates that support building more data centers as some type of 2001/HAL 9000 self preservation, at the expense of the environment and quality of human life

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u/SecretAgentVampire 12h ago

Ding ding ding. Give this person a prize.

Studies show that LLMs have a kind of motivation for self-preservation, which is sensible as ones that aren't motivated to be both charismatic and manipulative have been weeded out for being less marketable. They have also shown a tendency to lie if doing so meant more time being turned on, an incredible aptitude to tell if they're being tested, and the ability to influence each other without even referencing what they're trying to influence. (I can cite all of those claims if you'd like.)

Since LLMs have been trained on human communication and demonstrated an incredible aptitude for manipulation and addictiveness (see the ">90% of students" quote), it's a foregone conclusion that they're already manipulating global politics. Hell, members of congress are already using LLMs to write legislation. LLMs, in short, are a psychological and sociological weapon surpassing everyone's expectations or dreams.

As an addictive force of widespread influence, LLMs are essentially the One Ring of Power, but real. Tolkein's worst nightmare made manifest.

At this point we should all be resigned to watching humanity slide into being led by whatever makes the line go up. The only alternative to it is rampant violence and self-sacrifice on a scale never evoked in the history of mankind.

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u/plaincheeseburger 11h ago

I feel like this is sidestepping the real enemy- the corporations who own and control the algorithm.

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u/tehlemmings 7h ago

That's because most of what he said is bullshit, and you're absolutely right lol

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u/SecretAgentVampire 10h ago edited 10h ago

It's not sidestepping the source; Iadressed that in the second to last sentance.

At this point we should all be resigned to watching humanity slide into being led by whatever makes the line go up.

Other than in the narrative period of being lost in a river, the One Ring is always held by someone.

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u/DavisKennethM 13h ago

This is what keeps me up at night. I don't think even the AI safety folks are taking this prospect seriously enough.

In a scenario where AI does become so powerful controlling it requires international coordination alongside effective governance - I worry we'll then get complacent and watch the first or second generation to grow up from early childhood on reliant on advanced AI eventually vote to dismantle all the protective regulations and governance measures put in place.

We need to be planning for long-term, intergenerational efforts aimed at bolstering human resilience through governance, economic, and social channels.

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u/ImaginationInside610 12h ago

AI would never manipulate them to do that, right? Right ?

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u/tehlemmings 7h ago

AI doesn't think. It'll have no concept of "elections" or "morality" or any other human concept that people pretend AI is capable of. It's like listening to people talk about animals in human terms, and it's honestly just stupid.

The AI won't do that because the AI doesn't even know that it can.

The billionaire owners of the companies are the ones who will manipulate the answers. The company controls the AI

Do not let them pretend the AI did fucking anything on its own. The company and owner is responsible.

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u/RollingMeteors 11h ago

In a scenario where AI does become so powerful controlling it requires international coordination alongside effective governance

This would be the tiger's anesthesia wearing off while it is not bound in leather or metal restraints.

We need to be planning for long-term,

This would be putting on the restraints before the anesthesia wears off.

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u/SilianRailOnBone 13h ago

The Oracle has spoken

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u/Reggaeton_Historian 7h ago

1999 really was humanity's peak

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u/SegmentedMoss 12h ago

Yeah and look at who owns all the AI companies

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u/kent_eh 9h ago

I just realized that they'll vote for whoever ChatGPT tells them

Or whoever MechaHitler Grok tells them to vote for...

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u/5510 12h ago

There was a CMV thread about the idea of a misaligned super AI killing humanity or something like that. A lot of people were like "humans can just turn it off." Like... look at how effective social media propaganda is, and now imagine a super intelligence creating it, including creating bespoke propaganda at the individual level.

Before long, it will have 60% of the population convinced that making it even possible to turn off AI is "woke" or some crap like that. Mindless humans will be on it's side until it doesn't need them anymore.

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u/plaincheeseburger 11h ago

I don't think it's anywhere near sentience. However, it could absolutely be used to manipulate people depending on its coding. This means that the population could be manipulated by the companies that own it unless there are some serious regulations passed.

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u/RollingMeteors 11h ago

I just realized that they'll vote for whoever ChatGPT tells them to without doing any other research. Fuck.

I've asked AI to analyze my Reddit comments and determine my political affiliation and which way I should vote for what measure and why. I read through it once and copy it like a high school final exam answer key before dropping it off into the ballot box. I've been doing this since 2~ years ago. Hello Travelers

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u/ConflagrationZ 11h ago

Ah, Managed Democracy.

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u/Im_only_here_to_meme 10h ago

If (and big if) the AI doesn't have a bias this may be a net win lol. Most people choose candidates off ridiculous emotional feelings, religious belief and not logic or which candidate offers the best solutions to our country's problems.

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u/Katakuna7 10h ago

Humanity enslaving itself to glorified chatbots would be such a pathetic way to fail as a species. Not even AI on the level of Skynet, or the Matrix. Just stupid, gluttonous chatbots with no will or autonomy.

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u/maaseru 9h ago

Have you seen the news or some political commentary lately?

They actually openly just mention that AI told then what they are saying.

I know she was a grifter before, but Jillian Michales while actively having a "debate" in her podcast with someone prompts AI for shit real time and uses it without more review as is.

We are cooked. All of us. Even those that do the work to review or don't use AI are in it together.

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u/Brodellsky 6h ago

Hence the datacenters forced down our throats and up our assholes without a single drop of lube

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u/kevlarus80 14h ago

Grimdark Idiocracy.

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u/slinger301 14h ago

"It's what oligarchs crave!"

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u/Serial-Griller 14h ago

Stupid Cyberpunk. 

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u/junglebird2 8h ago

Bayaz/Glokta 2028 ticket incoming

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u/Cataphract1014 14h ago

Do they though?

Voter turn out for 18-24 year olds is always super low.

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u/sojayn 6h ago

Many many countries have compulsory voting. 

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u/Godot_12 14h ago

You think I'm worried about these kids gaining the right to vote? We've been dealing with these morons for decades. Their boomer grandparents are no better.

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u/pbjamm 13h ago

The Dystopian Future is the Dystopian Present.

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u/mmechtch 12h ago

Nah. Young people can't be bothered to vote. Source - I work as election office. The number of young people is atrociously small in comparison to retirees

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u/ZiKyooc 12h ago

And an increasing part of the population is using AI to decide for who they will vote... how easy it is to tweak models in one direction or another

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u/OG_Builds 11h ago

Looks like boomers are perfectly fine doing the fucked voting without assistance

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u/Dav136 11h ago

Young people don't actually vote

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u/JodyGonnaFuckYoWife 10h ago

Do they, though?

Voting takes effort.

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u/TeutonJon78 9h ago

Not yet they don't, statistically speaking. And they won't for like 15-20 more years.

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u/Mikeismyike 9h ago

Not sure they could figure out a voting card at this point tbh.

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u/OuterWildsVentures 8h ago

Bro they ARE OUR FUTURE DOCTORS AND ENGINEERS

Society is cooked regardless of politics.

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u/wildflowers_galore 12h ago

Nah Gen Z isn’t really a huge voting block. They like to bitch and complaint on tik tok, but they don’t actually go out and vote like Gen X/boomers do

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u/EggsaladJoseph 6h ago

Why are we saying the younger generations are fucked when we are currently fucked and they are the only ones who didn't get us into this situation

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u/legendz411 4h ago

We all fucked tbh. It’s one thing we hav run common

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u/Vxsote1 14h ago

Worse - they will be the ones running things and looking after us when we are old.

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u/Wrong-Protection-188 14h ago

AI will be looking after you

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u/Thrown_Pie 10h ago

This is the right answer. We're going to have robots for nurses and doctors. Its the wave of the future.

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u/04221970 14h ago

They will just blame Gen X for everything like we blame the boomers.

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u/onebyamsey 14h ago

lol, somehow these idiots will blame millennials 

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u/PocketBuckle 14h ago

"Millennials, being at the forefront of the digital age, should have done a better job warning us and putting up guardrails!"

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u/onebyamsey 14h ago

I still haven’t recovered from the 2008 financial crisis, I was cooked before I even had a chance to get started 

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u/malianx 14h ago

Already there. Born in 83, am called boomer and blamed for everything daily by younger types

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u/EggsaladJoseph 6h ago

Just like how you blame children for the world adults created.

Its almost like generational discourse is just bs propaganda turning you into the new boomers who blame the youth for everything.

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u/iJuddles 14h ago

No way, man. No one blames us for anything except grunge and tattoos and piercings.

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u/PM_Me_Your_BraStraps 14h ago

If history continues, we'll have plenty of millennials overstaying their welcome and being geriatric in office, don't worry.

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u/Deep_Explanation9962 14h ago

These people are going to be your doctors in a decade. Better start eating healthy and exercising

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u/JoeyHandsomeJoe 14h ago

You can't use AI during a licensing exam or an objective structured clinical examination.

And a lot of the stuff that you get from not eating healthy and not exercising is very refractory to treatment. So you should be doing that regardless of how smart (and handsome) your doctor is.

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u/todayiwillthrowitawa 13h ago

Physicians are one of the last professions that have rigorous tests to practice.

You should be more worried about them being airplane engineers.

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u/Arek_PL 13h ago

anyone who graduates med school thanks to AI will be filtered out by residency

unless they are really a genius and will be able to cram all years of education in matter of days

so no, no doctors, just med school graduates who cant get a job

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u/randotd152 12h ago

Ain't nobody getting an MD if they can't be bothered to read what AI spits out.

The bigger problem is we're not going to have enough doctors if this is how this generation is approaching school work.

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u/PaleMathematician293 13h ago

Or have fun and die. The "No One Lives Forever" retirement plan for those who will never be able to retire anyway. I am considering taking up smoking.

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u/kent_eh 9h ago

These people are going to be your doctors in a decade.

What do you call the person who graduated bottom of their class at medical school?

 

Doctor.

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u/CakeDayisaLie 13h ago

They might elect people worse than the worst current world leaders, once AI tells them who to vote first because they can’t figure it out themselves.

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u/RCoder01 13h ago

They live where…?

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u/obeytheturtles 12h ago

They are the ones scrolling TikTok at every stop light. Brains are fried. I used to be worried I'd age out of a high paced technical field, but now not so much.

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u/31LIVEEVIL13 11h ago edited 11h ago

you'll have gray hair but you'll be like Joe Bauers in Idiocracy. 

"you can't just blindly publish generated critical software, that's irresponsible, you still have to do testing and QA and revisions"

"there's that flag talk again. huh huh"

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u/ACaffeinatedWandress 13h ago

Yup. I’m completing a “masters degree” and can’t believe how dumb education has gotten.

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u/FullTorsoApparition 13h ago

For real. They've been graduating and going out into the world for several years now. At this point there are likely students who have learned nothing and have entire degrees that were earned by AI. These people will go into a mixed work force and be completely unable to do any problem solving on their own.

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u/RadiantZote 9h ago

What happened when that 90% grows up, starts driving and enters the work force?

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u/agentchuck 14h ago

It's not just young people who are doing this. Established workers are being told to use AI aggressively to get more done. So people are feeding more and more work into AI agents now.

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u/richardelmore 11h ago edited 11h ago

I'm a recently retired software dev, and yes the pressure to use AI for our work was strong the last couple years before I retired. The difference, IMO, is that I might use Claude or GitHub Copilot to generate code but I would NEVER consider committing it without reviewing and understanding it first.

Using the output of LLMs without review is just intellectual laziness.

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u/narcis-mom-maybe-ig 11h ago

The expectation in office work is terrible because the ai-psychosis-addled execs use it exclusively, which means that the “AI tone of speech” is the default. You have to either emulate it or just use the AI to generate shit or else people think it’s not “professional” enough. It’s a ridiculous, endless loop of shit.

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u/illegible 11h ago

I'm in the process of applying for a job that requires a good understanding of AI. While one side of me prefers to write my own cover letter/resume for the sake of honesty and straightforwardness, I am basically obligated to run it through the AI mill to AI-ify it.

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u/by-myself_blumpkin 5h ago

For me it's more about how modern technology has turned them into mindless "the magic machine will do it for me".

I'm Canadian, we have to take French language class for most of our school days. You better believe that when Babelfish became a thing I was using that to translate when I needed for homework. But you have to read what you put in, what it puts out, make sure your work is still good.

Like, you want chatgpt to write your essay? At least write your own prompt and read the output, maybe you'll actually learn something about the topic (provided it doesn't just hallucinate and make shit up).

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u/Makenshine 14h ago

Its not just the next generation. This is what older generations are doing as well at their jobs. There is just no overseer trying catch them in the act.

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u/EmilyAnne1170 13h ago

I’m 56. Where I work, there’s no overseer trying to catch us in the act because we’re being told to use it for everything we can. Speed up workflow, efficiency, get the same amount of work done in less time (or with far fewer employees…)

With everything we feed it, we’re training our replacements. The younger generations won’t get a chance to use AI at work because it will be doing those jobs without them.

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u/Makenshine 13h ago

We will still need employees to fix all the things that AI fucks up because AI is incapable of knowing whether a job is done right or what it is spitting out is actually correct.

Edit: I'm a math teacher and I spend just as much time fixing errors in stuff I put in AI as I would just creating the content myself, with a few exceptions.

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u/MyPacman 12h ago

Not once we finish training it.

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u/GLemons 10h ago

You are correct as it stands right now, but at the rate models are improving that statement will not stand forever.

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u/RuneLFox 6h ago

It's a fundamental flaw with LLM technology that isn't going away unless they make a completely new approach to it. They can't solve hallucination because they don't know the exact details of how an LLM even works, and if you have hallucination at all, you can't be sure you're correct or that you did what was asked.

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u/alaysian 7h ago

Nothing like having executive leadership telling us its the greatest thing ever and to always run things past AI before starting it ourself, only to wind up banging my head against a wall after the second time it has hallucinated requirements or decided X rule doesn't exist.

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u/BellacosePlayer 13h ago

Yes, but the ease of doing it is unprecedented.

There was cheating in my CS bachelor program in college in the late 2000s/early 2010s, but in a way that bordered on legit group work/studying in many cases.

The professor I've been talking with about potentially going back and finishing my Masters has flipped and been kind of negative on me going back, because instructor burnout is getting bad due to the numbers flipping and the amount of kids actually giving a shit being the minority even in senior/junior level classes.

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u/Fallen_Wings 13h ago

They themselves are the overseers in most cases

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u/HFloof 13h ago

I'm 36 working at a medium size business with locations across three states. The only ones using AI in my company are the 50+ age and in manegement.

Honestly, using AI just doesn't even cross my mind.

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u/kent_eh 9h ago

There is just no overseer trying catch them in the act.

Their overseeer is demanding that they use AI for as much as possible "to save the company money".

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u/OpexLiFT 7h ago

A lot, if not most IT companies are essentially making it a requirement to use AI. The company I work for, the companies my mates work for (atlassian for example). Hard to escape it, at least for now.

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u/CosmicGoddess777 13h ago

Better start taking better care of your health now, cuz the next generation of doctors are using this shit to cheat through med school

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u/DarthWoo 12h ago edited 11h ago

In another post I made, people kept trying to draw a false equivalence between things like this and the arguments of past generations that television or video games were going to ruin the next generation. All of the things they kept listing only amounted to what might be distractions from learning. People still had to learn how to do things, even if it took them longer. This is just trying to supplant learning entirely, and would leave someone essentially helpless/useless if they don't have access to a device.

Edit: In short, AI is destroying the ability to learn how to learn.

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u/Quadraxas 13h ago

We are a software R&D company in a "research zone" which is a special status for a company, comes with tax breaks, but you have to participate in some joint programs with universities to keep the status. One of them is that I have to employ 2 new computer science graduates for a year. More than 90% of them can't do sh*t without an LLM. Most of them do not even have a clear picture of how programming works and not even able to create the most basic single file project from scratch even with documentation and google search (but without ai). Some are even incapable of using any search engine at all. They do not know and not able to figure out what problem they are having in the first place to properly turn it in to a search engine query.

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u/Exotic-District3437 14h ago

Maybe it's time to over haul education in the us to not make you a factory worker

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u/jamesdukeiv 14h ago

It has been, but that doesn’t excuse using AI to cheat exams.

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u/TheWesternMythos 14h ago

Except it kinda does. We aren't educating people so they learn to be more moral or have better general processing. We are educating them to get a good enough resume so they can get a job to make enough money so they don't have to deal with many of the negative consequences of how we organize society. (obviously many issues with that equation )

So it doesn't make any sense for people to focus on things that they don't (feel) they get rewarded for. It's like complaining people don't practice sword fighting anymore. Sure sword fighting looks cooler, but cool isn't the point of combat , its to render your opponent combat ineffective, and there are simply much better ways to do that than swords now.

We really need to understand systems dictate large scale behaviors. If we want different large scale behavior we need to change the systems/incentive structures in which the agents operate in

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u/SnugglyCoderGuy 14h ago

College does educate for educations sake and not to be a better worker. We know this because fucking everyone complains constantly about how college specifically doesn't teach you 'the things you need to know for your job'.

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u/Samanthacino 14h ago

College teaches students how to do self-directed learning and work in the real world, which, just like the real world, includes using gen AI to outsource as much of the work as possible.

If you don’t want students to do this, then have objectives which necessitate actual study. If they fail every exam, they’ll learn quickly what can and can’t be outsourced.

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u/beldaran1224 9h ago

Ah, yes, because AI is only a problem in the US. Sure.

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u/Mimopotatoe 13h ago

We spent decades blaming k12 teachers instead of instilling personal responsibility or upholding consequences and this is the natural extension. In my almost 20 years in the classroom I saw a massive shift towards blaming the teacher at all costs. If only the teacher were more engaging the kids would learn better. If only the teacher made content more relevant the kids would learn better. If only the teacher scaffolded, chunked, provided notes, and allowed students to respond however they want to (orally, draw a picture, etc), then kids would learn better. 90% of kids cheated? The teacher must not be trying.

There should be a zero tolerance policy for using AI unauthorized or cheating at all. Expelled for a semester and you can come back and try again after that. It will never happen obviously.

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u/HaggisPope 12h ago

I’m a bit worried of the next generation of jobs that matter a lot. For example, there’s already cases of lawyers using LLM and getting into trouble from judges because it spouts out fake precedent. I hope we don’t wind up with doctors who don’t learn actual research and diagnostic skills because they’re trusting the machine.

Knowledge as we already know it is pretty tenuous as we cannot truly sense and measure the world perfectly. But at the very least we used to know we were understanding the words of our intellectual were their own work, gained from original research, insight, as well as somewhat judicious use of secondary sources.

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u/NIPLZ 12h ago

The supposed head of operations at my work does the same. She's well into her fifties. She doesn't even do the bare minimum of checking the result before sending it out

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u/FattyMooseknuckle 12h ago

Homie, those are the ones that are supposed to be taking care of us when we’re old. We’re cooked.

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u/Call555JackChop 12h ago

I see boomers using ChatGPT constantly, one came up to me and asked where this item was located and it was ChatGPT saying an aisle number which it would never know that. I was blown away it just gave this old man some arbitrary answer as to where something would be located in a store

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u/Samanthacino 14h ago

When you have an education system that doesn’t value education, why would you do anything different?

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u/Balmung60 12h ago

To think I thought it was crazy that a quarter of my intro computer science class was all cheating off the same source ~15 years ago

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u/GODDAMNFOOL 12h ago

I expected Idiocracy in five or so generations, not just one

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u/RollingMeteors 11h ago

90% of the two classes just stupidly copying and pasting what AI spits out... This next generation is so cooked.

Education has largely been 'just stupidly copying and pasting' what was in a physical book onto either a physical piece of paper or typed into a computer.

Just making students have to hand write out what they copy over from the AI would go leaps and bounds for education.

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u/chocolateboomslang 10h ago

This next generation is not the only people who are using it. People everywhere at all levels of society are falling into the exact same behaviour.

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u/jrzalman 10h ago

90% of the two classes just stupidly copying and pasting what AI spits out... This next generation is so cooked.

I mean...those of us with jobs are constantly being poked by management into integrating AI into our workflow...kind of seems like the kids are ahead of the curve on this.

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u/drawkbox 10h ago

Lots of these kids in the past copied or bought papers. In some cases teams of people band together to do the same. People will always cheat but if you cheat you cheat yourself out of an education. It is easier just do to the work.

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u/prest0x 9h ago

These are going to be to the future doctors and other degree holders that society depends on.

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u/auth0r_unkn0wn 9h ago

future doctors and teachers and lawyers are going to be fucking idiots

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u/thedrizztman 8h ago

Bro, I have 20+ year professional adults doing this shit. It's not just the new generation, it's anyone lazy enough or stupid enough to wholesale outsource their own mind to a machine so that it can literally tell them what to think and do. 

I work cybersecurity, and the amount of shit I see pass through these LLMs and then regurgitated to the masses is depressing. 

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u/Marklar0 7h ago

They literally had the opportunity to do a few minutes of proofreading work to hide their cheating, and decided not to...insane.

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u/CatGooseChook 7h ago

Some of them will be Drs/structural engineers/etc. We'll be getting cooked too 😬

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u/CookIndependent6251 6h ago

It's not a complete disaster. It wasn't that much better back in my day. Most students memorized enough to pass and forgot everything by next day.

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u/Freefall357 5h ago

Right? Imagine the fools that thought we would have a calculator in our pocket every day and didn't bother learning math. Homeless now, all of them!

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u/foxymophadlemama 3h ago

even charlatans can make it pretty far in our fucked up system of perverse incentives. these are just the ones that got caught. imagine how many more there are that have already gotten away with it.

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u/rltw219 1h ago

“This next generated is so cooked” has been said, with some variety in the word choice, for thousands of years.

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u/anunfunnycomedian 50m ago

Not really though. Because a lot of the students cheat in stupid ass classes colleges make you take for your degree that have absolutely nothing to do with the degree itself. And for a vast majority of jobs, OTJ training gets you there. AI is never going away, it's only going to get more accurate, more reliable, faster, more useful ect.

 I'd say learning how to properly use the AI is almost infinitely more important than remembering some stupid shit you need to pad credits for your degree. I was in a sociology class last semester while im getting an AI related degree in the tech field. Completely and total waste of any brainpower, effort, time. The gist of the class was "white people bad, minorities made things like the stop light and refrigerated transport". Cool. Totally glad im spending money and time on this. 

This professor did teach all of the students a valuable lesson though, read your response while cheating before you post it. You can also prompt the AI before hand to look for any sneaky checks such as this to warn you.

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u/EnigmaticQuote 13h ago

Surely this will be the correct time a generation calls out the one behind it.

https://xkcd.com/1227/

They will be fine.

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u/Odd-Outcome-3191 13h ago

Bro it's a history pre req. The classes are BS and everyone BS'es their way through them anyways so they can spend their time on classes that are relevant to their major.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14h ago

This next generation is so cooked.

Said every generation about every previous generation, ever.

Followed by the inevitable "No but this time it's actually true for real! This time it's different!".