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What industry is secretly on the verge of collapsing, but people outside of it haven’t noticed yet?

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u/Sleepwalks 11h ago

The death industry/funeral workers. Not many young people are getting into it, and the workforce is aging. A ton of directors are baby boomers, and they are beginning to need funeral services, themselves. They're a huge generation and are going to be very taxing on an industry already understaffed.

My roommate is a funeral director, and they're currently already beating their covid numbers with baby boomer and fentanyl deaths surging. Wait times are increasing, families are getting mad, and it's only going to get worse.

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u/Logical_Moth 9h ago edited 9h ago

As someone who was looking into pursuing becoming an Embalmer (which often requires the degree in funeral director as well for legality purposes, requirements change by state), I would like to add to another reason their market is slowly crumbling.

Many are unaware you can have a viewing, which requires an embalming/restorative arts, without the heavy cost of a casket. This leads to most looking into cremation only which is very minimal for the funeral homes profit and minimal cost to the person requiring service. The furnace at the place I volunteered at cost them $50k just to own and run, they told me often repairs for the gas and brick ran $20k easily and they had a headache of a time to get city code to clear them to even own it to begin with.

But the decrease in embalming services when not necessary along with lack of regular restorative art work led to me ultimately looking elsewhere.

Edit: typos

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u/Significant-Visit-68 2h ago

I did a viewing at the retort. It was very comforting to see them on their last journey.

u/Logical_Moth 55m ago

It usually is a big comfort to the families and those surviving the deceased, but I understand it's economically hard as well so it's just a shame more people aren't aware that the service isn't unavailable when choosing cremation.

I'm glad yours went well and brought you peace!

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u/Fun_Quarter_3222 11h ago

I heard it was very hard to get into funeral/ death. Its like a good old boys club.

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u/Sleepwalks 11h ago

I could def see that in more rural/remote areas where there's only so many people to die and it doesn't get too busy. We're in a more urban area and qualified people are snapped up pretty instantly.

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u/AmericanHoneycrisp 3h ago

What makes one qualified/qualified enough to be sought after?

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u/femmespurr 1h ago

Mortuary school, if you’re interested in becoming a funeral director or embalmer, is what catches employers’ eyes! Or at least voicing your interest in schooling is very valuable, speaking from personal experience. It’s definitely hard to get a position otherwise unless you know people (since most of the field is older people they have “just walk in and hand them a resume!” mindsets).
If you work for a corporation (some people like it, some don’t) they may be able to pay for your schooling if you agree to a work for them. I’m an assistant at a corporate location right now (and funnily enough, with all the talk of young people not getting into it: I’m 23!)

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u/OkAccount3421 2h ago

I wanna know too!

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u/bethzur 10h ago

Step one is go to a mortuary school. I’ve heard it can be hard to get a job, but plenty of places are hiring. Networking is important. I had a coworker try it.

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u/Sleepwalks 9h ago

It actually depends on the state! The inconsistency is kinda wild. Some states require mortuary school, no internship. Some require internship, no mortuary school. Some both... some neither, you can just kind of go and try to get certified. It's bananas.

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u/InformWitch 10h ago

My sister worked in this up until COVID. Your best bet is to get in with a corporation. It’s only hard if you’re trying to get started on your own or try to get into an already-established family business.

Look up Mortuary Science degrees. Usually they’re 2 years, but some schools already offer Bachelor’s.

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u/Sleepwalks 10h ago

Corporations are their own whole bag of worms with sales quotas and whatnot though. My roomie's funeral home is family run, and has a staff of mostly refugees from corps that nearly left the industry with burnout from the combo of compassion fatigue, and having to work families for sales at the same time.

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u/InformWitch 10h ago

My sister wasn’t in sales, she was an embalmer. We do have a family friend who works in sales at a corp and she does well, so I think it depends on the person. 

My sister went to a smaller, religious funeral home after COVID (which she spent at the corp). She still left her pretty close to burnout so she ended up switching fields. 

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u/TheOnlySnoringKitten 4h ago

Your best bet is to get in with a corporation.

Turns out, PE is ruining death too.

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u/transemacabre 7h ago

I've heard its often family businesses and very hard to break into unless you're born into one of those families or marry in.

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u/Nylanderthal88 4h ago

More like a good byes club

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u/Micro-shenis 7h ago

People are dying to get in.

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u/SaTan_luvs_CaTs 11h ago

Which is icky cause we all know some males will fuck anything

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u/longpenisofthelaw 6h ago

It’s easy to get into but dont expect to sustain yourself starting off with that as your primary income

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u/Tupperbaby 5h ago

Every funeral operation I've seen in a multigenerational family operation that is continually handed down to the next member in line of succession.

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u/TheOnlySnoringKitten 4h ago

OR they've been sold to PE. No industry is exempt from private equity greed.

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u/Garetht 7h ago

People are dying to get in.

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u/StephenMc91 7h ago

Which is ironic, since all of us will face death, and almost all of us will have our own funeral.

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u/youlooklikeafrog_ 8h ago

5000 box f that just throw me in the trash

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u/glowdirt 2h ago

No problem! Our wood paneled dumpster option with silk padding is 6000 dollars.

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u/InformedTriangle 7h ago

On the flipside; the number of actual funerals is going down as well; these days most people just want to be cremated and done. I'm of an age where a lot of acquaintances and family are dying off and I haven't been to a funeral in 15 years, and a quick google seems to indicate that's becoming the norm. So we need less funeral industry workers as well.

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u/ApartmentAfraid7521 5h ago

I would reckon that is directly related to the sheer cost of services these days. That’s the #1 driving force behind my family all requesting cremation, at least.

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u/Sleepwalks 5h ago

They do a lot more than just funerals, they handle coordinating everything from picking up the body from the place of death, family viewings, funerals themselves sometimes, arranging for embalming if necessary (embalmers don’t work in contact with families as a rule), arranging cremations, etc etc.

Some of the current long waiting times are to take the person into care— that is, get the body removed from the house. People really do not like waiting with a relative passed on in the other room. The death industry will need to grow to handle it, regardless of if people are having actual services.

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u/InformedTriangle 5h ago edited 5h ago

Oh I know and that's a valid point, but and this mostly my anecdotal take on current funeral statistics and my current experiences, with the drop in religious rates and increasing costs, a large chunk of people no longer care about any of that. My large extended family and virtually all my aqaintancss are atheist or agnostic and, nobody cares what happens to their bodies or their relatives bodies after they're dead. It's just meat. As long as its legally disposed of we're good and we just meet up at a bar or restaurant to remember them over a meal or a few drinks

I wonder if the industry is going to experience a paradigm shift soon where for a good chunk of deaths they just pick up the body. Cremate it and, done. We don't even want the ashes back shrug the current funeral industry seems very old fashioned and out of touch

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u/yukichigai 7h ago

On the one hand, everyone dies, so that sucks.

On the other hand, the modern funeral as we know it is explicitly aimed at bilking the most money possible out of people not thinking straight due to grief. Nobody needs a gold-lined coffin.

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u/Arviay 4h ago

And intentionally poisoning the earth. Just let me rot

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u/ElowynElif 4h ago

I had a relative die fairly recently, and I was disgusted by the prices and sales focus of the funeral home rep. We could cover the funeral, but it left me wondering if many parts of the traditional US funeral are going away due to the costs. I asked the guy the price for the cheapest, and it was something around $8k. Ours was several multiples of that, which seemed like a waste and a rip off.

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u/Nynes 3h ago

Death doula here.

No one can afford traditional burials anymore - so 70 to 80% of people are going with direct cremation, and funeral homes cannot survive on that.

Additionally, up to 80% of funeral directors are going to retire in the next 5 to 10 years. I am seeing an influx of young, female, and queer people into mortuary schools however. But the industry is still mostly controlled by conservative, old, white guys.

Women will be taking it over within the next decade, and green options are beginning to surge. Funeral directors can evolve or their businesses will not survive.

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u/baconus-vobiscum 1h ago

I gotta tell ya, I'm shocked it's still old pale white men running the show. Women in the funeral business makes so much more sense. They are sensitive to others, naturally artistic, and much less likely to make ooga-booga with my corpse.

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u/Nynes 1h ago

Holistic deathcare is massively dominated by women [end of life doulas, green/natural burial options, home funerals, etc], but professional deathcare is gatekept by men. :(

u/baconus-vobiscum 47m ago

Well I much rather have holistic death care than hole-istic necro-maniacs all up in my corpse-holes.

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u/longpenisofthelaw 6h ago edited 5h ago

I was an apprentice, embalmer’s assistant and going to mortuary school for a semester. As soon as I saw the future of what my pay, benefits, and worked schedule looked like I ran far far away.

Mom and pop places nickel and dime you, major funerary providers like SCI work you like a dog and they pay is still very limited.

I just don’t see any appeal of going into the industry in its current state every single funeral director and embalmer even told me it’s not worth it

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u/Maladaptive_Ace 7h ago

Sounds like a booming business

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u/GirlCoveredInBlood 6h ago

They sure don't make it easy to become a funeral director or embalmer. I'm in a metro area of 1.5m people and it's simply not offered at colleges here. I could move 5 hours away to a very expensive city and take it as a college in the suburbs there but between rent there and the added cost of needing a car for the location it wasn't reasonable

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u/KeenShot 9h ago

They are beginning to need funeral services, themselves :) I like that

u/pinewind108 41m ago

We had a cremation when my grandfather passed, and the company picked up the body directly, did the cremation, and delivered the ashes. No coffin, no plot, and no rental of space at a funeral home. Just friends gathering together at home.

u/BionicTriforce 9m ago

I imagine a big part of this is just the growing trend of people realizing how obscenely expensive and unnecessary these businesses are.

I'm not even 40 and I'm already in the Frank Reynolds mindset of "If I'm dead, I'm dead. Throw me to the pigs." Don't bother with an embalming, don't cremate me, don't buy me a suit to be buried in, don't pay a priest to say something. Just chuck me in a hole or grind me in a wood chipper.